I'm in New Jersey and Andrew, you're where?
Andrew:I'm on the other side of the moon. I am doing live reporting from here. Yeah. It's amazing. I have this pod that I'm in.
Andrew:I worked closely with Elon Musk, to make this happen and Jeff Bezos. They're here now. I could get you. Don't we? They're sleeping, though.
Andrew:Shh. Elon's asleep under the desk. That's where he likes to sleep. We have one desk we share. We all share the same desk.
Neal:Let's get started. Mostly true Ilium stories. Welcome back, everybody.
Andrew:Oh my gosh. Are we live?
Neal:We are live. Oh,
Andrew:this is exciting.
Neal:Yes. Did you, do you set up Christmas decorations?
Andrew:Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Neal:You do? And and did you take them down?
Andrew:Oh, yeah. We took them down, last weekend.
Neal:Ours have been up since, October? No. Thanksgiving.
Andrew:Yeah. We did our Thanksgiving weekend. Yeah.
Neal:You did? Okay.
Andrew:Actually, you know what? No. We did it We did it before Thanksgiving weekend. The weekend before Thanksgiving. We have Christmas up while we had Thanksgiving.
Neal:That's a new record. That's a long time.
Andrew:Well, you know, it's like it was a shorter season. Right? And then What? Because of that. Yeah.
Andrew:Yeah. We had less weeks less weeks.
Neal:Really?
Andrew:Yeah. Yeah. Because Chris because, Thanksgiving was late. It was the twenty seventh, twenty. How much?
Andrew:Hold on. Let me look that up.
Neal:I feel like Thanksgiving is always the same time.
Andrew:Well, you know, it it's supposed to be, but it actually wasn't.
Neal:Because of Biden?
Andrew:Yeah. Because of Biden.
Neal:Hey. What, what, you got any alien news and entertainment for us today? Mostly true alien stories?
Andrew:Dude. Okay. You're not going to believe this. I found a story that was just reported on 01/11/2025.
Neal:Talk to me.
Andrew:Okay. UFO or something else. A private jet crew encounters eerie glowing object at 45,000 feet over The Bahamas.
Neal:You're saying that last year, January.
Andrew:No, I'm talking just a few days ago. Yesterday. This was just reported yesterday. It was on actually, it happened on December 23. Let me get to the article.
Andrew:On the night of December 23, Cassandra Martin, a flight attendant for Surgette, a private air service, and two pilots were flying back to Fort Lauderdale when they encountered a mysterious object high over The Bahamas. The crew received a message from Miami Air Traffic Control alerting them to a foreign object in the vicinity as reported by NBC Miami. All of a sudden, I heard traffic control say, we have a foreign object. Can you please identify? Martin explained.
Andrew:She went on to describe what she saw. I looked to the left and the pilot saw three objects. I only saw one. And I grabbed my phone and I just pressed it to the window to see if I could get a video of what the object was. The object, Martin reported, started white but soon took a greenish hue resembling an electric energy field.
Andrew:It started as white and then just got green and almost like electric, some type of energy around it, she said. The mysterious object stayed with the plane for approximately forty five minutes, hovering at an altitude of 43,000 to 45,000 feet, too high for a drone and true erratic for a weather balloon.
Neal:Was it was circling or what what was it doing?
Andrew:It was like flying with them. It was keeping up the same the same speed as as they were.
Neal:So wait, was she the only one that saw it?
Andrew:No, the pilot saw it as well, but she only saw one. The pilot saw three different objects glowing, but she only saw one. So she grabbed her phone and she started making videos.
Neal:So she said, I think the first video? Did we find the video? Is there video?
Andrew:There's actually a picture of it on Mint. It's livemint.com news.
Neal:What? So what do you think it is?
Andrew:I, you know what? I I
Neal:mean, because you don't believe in that shit.
Andrew:I don't believe in that shit. So, I don't know. It's kinda weird. Maybe some sort of military operation.
Neal:Well, what what do you think? I mean, just the just last night, the Ravens Pittsburgh game was stopped. Right. It was stopped in the middle of the game because there was a unidentified flying object over the stadium. So they immediately said they called it a drone.
Neal:But for security reasons, they're gonna need to stop the game. They got everybody off the fucking field. It's becoming a thing where it it's unmasked right now. Right? There's a lot of this happening.
Neal:Now I when it gets that high, now I question it. Now it becomes for me, it becomes military. Yeah. You know? If it's not military, then it's definitely of some other origin when you're that high.
Neal:Because, you know, there's nobody in their garage putting together their drones that, you know, can go that high. It's it's definitely an organized, attempt of, you know, some sort of technology in my opinion.
Andrew:Agreed. Agreed. I'm actually building a drone that can go 37,000 feet high.
Neal:Yeah. Anything above 37,000, I think, is more organized. Am I right?
Andrew:I'm not wrong. No. You're not wrong. Not at all.
Neal:Did you find anything that Miami Tower reported? Did anybody is there any other report that you found that possibly
Andrew:in the actual report? It says it said they heard traffic control say we have a foreign object. Can you please identify? So Miami control, the traffic control recognized it, whatever it was.
Neal:Yeah.
Andrew:Because they alerted them to the thing.
Neal:But what's the point? What's the point? And why are they flying by airplanes? That that's where I think it's a becomes a threat. Right?
Neal:It isn't a threat, unless, it is unknown. Right? So it could be a drone. Right. But even though if it's a drone, now you're going, okay.
Neal:Where's the origin? What is it? What is it representing? What how do we know it's not a threat? And then then it becomes a threat because you're not sure of where it's what its intentions are or why why is
Andrew:this there. Why is
Neal:this there? Doing what
Andrew:it's doing. Right.
Neal:So so then the government doesn't investigate it until they they completely believe that it's a threat. So which is weird to me because I think everything's a threat if you don't know the art.
Andrew:You don't know what it is and you you never seen it before. Yeah. It's not necessarily a threat. It's just what is it? It can't is it friendly?
Andrew:Do we should we talk to it?
Neal:Right.
Andrew:I mean, they needed me out there with a big keyboard going great.
Neal:Imagine if Spielberg was right and that's all we need to do is set up a giant synthesizer with speakers and just do that song.
Andrew:Right. And then you play the wrong song, and they're like, annihilation. Just go ahead and just kill everybody. Yeah. That would be
Neal:horrible.
Andrew:Or you know what would be even worse? It would be they get the guy that sings the Burger King ad. Have you heard that guy?
Neal:No. What what He
Andrew:sings the
Neal:Oh, but I don't know the guy.
Andrew:I don't know who it is. Is it a character? Listen, if if if Burger King marketing people are listening, get a different guy. The guy can't even stay on pitch. He's under the pitch.
Andrew:It's terrible. Is it really? My ears.
Neal:I don't remember. I is this still running?
Andrew:No. It's it's it's like the old theme, but they have a new guy singing it.
Neal:You know what? Now that you mentioned it, I haven't seen a Burger King, McDonald's, or any fast food restaurant commercial in the longest time. Have you?
Andrew:Oh my gosh. Yo. Yeah. No. I I see him.
Andrew:I see him.
Neal:Because you live in the Midwest, so
Andrew:you think They're gonna they're gonna advertise it there. But I gotta tell you, the guy is terrible. He's, like, right under the pitch. Like, he's the pitch. He's right.
Andrew:Oh, I wouldn't sing it like that. At least I'd be on pitch.
Neal:Let me hear it.
Andrew:I well, I I Alright.
Neal:I got we're auditioning for new voices for the Burger King, commercial we'd like to hear. Andrew, Triana, please, go ahead. You're up next.
Andrew:You're up next.
Neal:I I don't know the truth. Up next. You're up next.
Andrew:I'm sorry. I'd I'd I'd don't know the truth.
Neal:A lot of talking here.
Andrew:You know what? Next podcast, I'm gonna be prepared for my audition.
Neal:Could you tell us could you tell me a little bit about yourself before you sing, please?
Andrew:Yeah. Hi. I'm not a fan of Burger King, but what I am a fan of is is music that's on pitch. That's what I am a fan of. Right.
Andrew:And when a singer is under the pitch, I want the aliens to take them and annihilate them. That's what would happen. They'd be like, aliens, we've got the Burger King guy. He's gonna sing for you. And then he would sing the song because it's like their favorite song, and then they'd be like, no.
Andrew:Annihilation. Remember, everything comes down to annihilation, total devastation and annihilation.
Neal:Does come down to annihilation, doesn't it?
Andrew:At the at the end of the day, what's what's left? Yeah. Who are they gonna give us? You know, cure for cancer? Who cares?
Neal:What do you think if the aliens are coming for us? Yeah. What do they want? But but, see, this is where I go to thinking that we're in a matrix. They created it.
Neal:Yeah. And they come in and check on us. And then we're becoming more aware of them. Or we're Because their own AI is turning on them. And we are AI.
Neal:We're in that matrix, and now we're becoming more aware. And they're just like, fuck. They they're on to us.
Andrew:You know what? There was a coolest thing with, in men in black. I think it was men in black too where he opens the locker. And inside that locker at the subway station is a whole universe. That's kinda what it's like.
Andrew:Someone opened the locker door.
Neal:Yeah. Yeah. I love that movie. That's a great movie, men in black.
Andrew:Yeah. Third one was okay too. This third one was bad.
Neal:Third one wasn't good. But, yeah, but the first one was good, and they did follow it up strongly with the second one, I think. Yeah. Wasn't as good as first one, but it was a definite good follow-up on that. What else you got in the news?
Andrew:Well, let's talk about celebrities.
Neal:Oh, you know I love when we talk about alien celebrities.
Andrew:Alien celebrities. Are you ready? I don't think you're gonna be shocked by this.
Neal:Go ahead.
Andrew:Miley Cyrus.
Neal:I love Miley. That's my that's my fucking bucket list. I would love to see her sing.
Andrew:Yes. When you when we say see her sing, we know that it means banging, whether they're a singer or not.
Neal:I would I would love to watch her sing and sing and
Andrew:sing. Perform. Right? Yes. No.
Andrew:But in
Neal:all honestly, I would love like, she does these workshop sort of concerts where she's performing in a, you know, just a small little, like, hotel venue, where she's testing out new stuff, and she's doing those things. I have a friend who, my sister-in-law who actually, you know, works in that industry, and she, she has promised me that once she gets an opportunity to get me into one of those, that'd be great. Because those are those performances are amazing. I love those workshop.
Andrew:Like a workshop kind of.
Neal:Yeah. Where she's just freeing you know, just talking with among everybody and just working on this and stopping and going back and doing something else, you know, that that kind of stuff. I think she's an amazing performer. But go ahead. Let's let's hear what this,
Andrew:looks good. So Miley Cyrus is an alien enthusiast.
Neal:Love that. Okay. Mhmm.
Andrew:So, you know, she did wrecking ball. Right? That was her big like, one of her big big
Neal:Coming like a wrecking ball.
Andrew:Thank you. Yeah. Mhmm. Thank you. You're you know what?
Andrew:Great audition. Fantastic. You're the best person we've seen today.
Neal:I did audition for the Burger King commercial, but I was under pitch.
Andrew:You weren't under pitch enough. That's really what happened. If you would have been just, like, really out of tune, they would have been like, you're hired. Alright. Yeah.
Andrew:She loves a UFO. She's had UFO experience. She said the most notable was when she was on tour driving through rural what is up with rural California? Goldie Hawn, same thing. Rural California with a friend
Neal:Because they have really good drugs out there.
Andrew:That's what I'm guessing. That's what I'm guessing. Okay. So, she was with her friend when a UFO high in the sky chased the duo down in their car.
Neal:Chase them.
Andrew:Chase them. So she did an interview.
Neal:What year was this? What year?
Andrew:You know, I'm not sure. It doesn't say in this little article that I'm reading this about. It was an interview magazine. So let's look up interview magazine because that's when she did the article to talk about it. She said the best way I don't know if I can say this with a straight face or not.
Andrew:I'm gonna try. The best way to describe it is a flying snowplow.
Neal:A flying
Andrew:Flying snowplow.
Neal:So, yeah, I'm in Jersey. So snowplows are massive, like, trucks.
Andrew:But yours are your snowplows dump trucks with big blades in the front of it? Is that what your snowplow is?
Neal:Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm assuming.
Andrew:Dump truck with a with a blade in front.
Neal:Well, what's a what's a flying snowplow? What's a snowplow to you?
Andrew:I guess that's what well, here in
Neal:They're always giant dump trucks with fucking
Andrew:No. Or they're big or they're big, pickup trucks too that have the things depending. They have different sizes.
Neal:Okay. Okay.
Andrew:Okay. So, she said the best way to describe it was a flying snowplow. Yeah. It had this big plow in the front of it, and it was glowing yellow. I did see it flying, and my friend saw it, too.
Andrew:There's a couple other cars on the road, and they also stopped to look. So I think what I saw was real. She said she shook her up
Neal:Wait a minute.
Andrew:For, like, five days.
Neal:Go back.
Andrew:Okay. It flew down. It chased them. It like, why would you
Neal:because it was like, hey. It's Miley. Right. Why would it chase a random car?
Andrew:Yeah. It could have been you in that flying snowplow.
Neal:Oh, yeah. If I could. Do
Andrew:you have a hover hover snowplow that you were chasing her down with possibly since you're such a fan?
Neal:Yeah. I don't understand. I don't understand how. But she said other people, same thing. They were pulled over.
Andrew:Other other people stopped on the side of the road is what she said. She said they pulled off the road to look to see. Could she hear it? She didn't say anything about hearing anything.
Neal:I wanna ask her.
Andrew:You're gonna have to ask her. Ask her about the flying snowplow. She said, I was shaken up for, like, five days. It fucked me up is what she said. I really couldn't look at the sky the same way.
Andrew:I thought they might come back. Now this is where it gets interesting. I didn't feel threatened at all.
Neal:I was just gonna ask.
Andrew:But I did see a being sitting in the front of the flying object.
Neal:Well, somebody has to drive the snowplow.
Andrew:It looked at me, and we made eye contact. I think that's what really shook me up. Looking into the eyes of something that I couldn't quite wrap my head around.
Neal:Did she did did she explain what it looked like?
Andrew:No. She doesn't explain what the beam looked like. She said there was a beam driving, and they locked eyes. And this is what I think happened. I think mentally, the thing communicated with her and said, not Taylor Swift and then fucking flew off.
Neal:Definitely. I
Andrew:think it was forever.
Neal:I wanna know what year it was.
Andrew:So this article in Billboard magazine was written in 2020.
Neal:Who's the author of it?
Andrew:Author is, Rainia Anifdos. Rainia Anifdos.
Neal:And that was in 2020?
Andrew:That was in 2020. She did the article.
Neal:She did the article then, but did she say
Andrew:what you knew that was? I was driving through she doesn't she doesn't give a year. I was driving through San Bernardino with my friend, and I got chased down by some sort of UFO. I'm pretty sure about what I saw, but I also bought weed wax from a guy in a
Neal:van in
Andrew:front of a taco shop.
Neal:She was high.
Andrew:But the best way to describe it was a flying snowplow.
Neal:She was high as fuck. She was high.
Andrew:Well, the Midnight Sky singer said the experience left her shaken for, like, five days. She didn't feel threatened at all. I did see a being singing in front of the object. She said it looked at me and we made eye contact. And I think that's what really shook me up.
Andrew:Looking into the eyes is something I couldn't quite wrap my head around. But you're so right to say that it's a form of narcissism to think that we're the only things that could be in the vast universe.
Neal:But so she was high as fuck. And the, I'm not saying that she didn't see anything, but I'm pretty sure the mention of weed wax was her insinuation that maybe there was something else in the weed wax that maybe could have taken her to another place in her mind. I still love her.
Andrew:But, you know, when when we talked about post Malone a few a few, episodes ago, post Malone was high on shrooms when he was talking to Joe Rogan. So how do we know what he saw was true?
Neal:Well, I mean, I've been on
Andrew:Goldie Hawn in the desert again. She said it was like being touched by God. Love my hands.
Neal:Yeah. Well, you know what? Listen. I I think there are actually if we were gonna get into it, there are, some, hallucinogenics that actually, I think bring forward truth and connection to, some higher spiritual, revelations that I think aren't necessarily ruled out because you're on something that's connecting you to that. I think it's actually
Andrew:So you're saying that these these drugs could possibly connect you to a subconscious that you're unaware of?
Neal:Yes. Yeah. I believe in that wholeheartedly. You you do not. But I I do.
Neal:I mean, I've been
Andrew:on No. No. No. I get it. Look, man, you could probably see some really cool stuff.
Andrew:You know, people keep telling me, dude, you need to smoke weed. You need to smoke weed. And I'm like, why? And they're like, oh, you're so creative. And weed would make you more creative.
Neal:And I'm like, well, I don't know that weed makes you more creative. That that that's a that's a, to me is, not a factual statement. I think weed is
Andrew:tell you that heroin does nothing for
Neal:me. It's just not I keep trying it, and it's not taking me anywhere.
Andrew:It doesn't take me anywhere except put me to sleep, and my wife has to roll me on my side so I don't vomit and drown in my own vomit. Do you
Neal:have, do you have any other, news and updates? Do you have any comments?
Andrew:Well, I can tell you something. I don't know. You you don't watch TV. I mean, you do, but you don't because you don't see the Burger King ads, which is sad.
Neal:I've never I have not seen any fast food restaurant, commercials in
Andrew:the world. You need to YouTube it and listen to that guy sing, and then you can talk about it. Okay? I will.
Neal:I'm going to.
Andrew:Okay. I think the most exciting thing that is happening because I'm a huge alien fan, like, of alien.
Neal:Right. You like the alien idea or the alien alien movie?
Andrew:Alien movies, alien, aliens.
Neal:Yeah.
Andrew:Alien three, you can fucking keep.
Neal:But you don't believe in it.
Andrew:It's okay. What do you mean I don't believe in that? Come on. That's awesome.
Neal:No. No. No. You don't believe in other do you? Do you believe in other
Andrew:Other lives? Other universes. No. No. Come on.
Andrew:That's like saying, oh, Rick Skywalker is real.
Neal:But you like the science fiction of the alien
Andrew:Yeah. I like science. Concepts. I love science fiction, fantasy, and all that stuff.
Neal:Art of it. Yeah. Sure.
Andrew:Okay. K. In summer summer this year, 2025. I can't believe what I'm saying. Twenty twenty five.
Neal:This summer.
Andrew:This summer on Hulu.
Neal:Coming soon on Hulu.
Andrew:And FX.
Neal:And FX.
Andrew:Yeah. Alien Earth.
Neal:Talk to me. What is it?
Andrew:Okay. So, it's set in 2120, right, which is just like tomorrow.
Neal:Mhmm.
Andrew:It follows a crash recovery crew that encounters a mysterious space vessel and dangerous life forms on Earth.
Neal:I love it.
Andrew:And you just gotta when you get a chance, watch the trailer because the trailer is you see Earth. Right? Mhmm. Like a reflection of Earth, and then it kind of morphs and then the head spins up and it's the freaking xenomorph alien's face. It's like with the saliva and then it goes alien earth 2025.
Neal:So it's a little horror. It's hard.
Andrew:All the alien stuff is horror. I mean, I don't know if you saw alien Romulus. Like, it got bashed, but I dude, I thought it was freaking awesome.
Neal:You loved it.
Andrew:Oh, yeah. Scary. Scary. Scary. Good.
Andrew:Scary. Good.
Neal:I'll have to watch it. And now so who's producing the, this, alien series?
Andrew:It's Fox. Fox is doing it. It's Noah Hawley. Noah Hawley's alien. I don't know who Noah Hawley is.
Andrew:I need to look at who that person is.
Neal:Mhmm.
Andrew:But it's their their spin on the sci fi horror series Alien.
Neal:Well, I I really hope that it's done well, and it doesn't get It
Andrew:looks like I've seen a couple trailers. I saw that one trailer, then I saw another trailer. It looks like it's gonna be it's gonna be good. Now I don't know if did you see Prey? Did you watch Prey, p r e y, online?
Neal:I did not. I did not.
Andrew:Are you a Predator fan?
Neal:I love Predator. Yes.
Andrew:Okay. So it's, it's a spin on Predator, but it's early predator, like early, like native American prequel to prequel to Danny Glover's predator two.
Neal:Yeah. Did
Andrew:you see predator two?
Neal:I didn't
Andrew:absolutely terrible. Was it That was like the end of Danny Glover's career, and I love Danny Glover.
Neal:Well, he's probably forced to do it. Right?
Andrew:Well, yeah. He's just send his daughter to college. Yeah. That's his forcing.
Neal:Yeah. Right.
Andrew:Right. Just like Michael Caine with Jaws three d. Michael Caine, one of the greatest actors ever, does Jaws three d. Terrible. But he needed the money.
Andrew:It just reminds me of Andrew Dice Clay. Little boy blue. He needed the money. You know Who thought we'd even bring up Andrew Dice Clay on our podcast? I mean, seriously, that's grasping at past straws.
Neal:I think he should be brought up on every episode. I love Andrew Dice Clay. He's an alien. So there is, I'm I'm hoping so I I do believe that there's, you know, there's gonna be this big run on alien this and alien that now on TV and movies and all that stuff. Obviously, we've talked about it.
Neal:I'm just hoping that they just don't put out garbage to put out garbage. Like, you know, the this series that you just spoke about, it it the alien movies for me work because they always die at the end, and then then there's that, you know, then there's that glimmer of the the, you know, the finger moves and then, you know, or they find the eggs and, you know, oh, there's gonna be another one. Right? So in a series in a series like this that they're gonna do I mean, then they're gonna bring in love stories, and then there's characters. It becomes it becomes, you know, the Star Trek series, you know, which worked, which they try to they try to copy.
Neal:But the problem is and when it comes to the alien thing, there's the bad alien, right, that is
Andrew:But are they bad?
Neal:Well, no. Not necessarily. I guess they're They're
Andrew:just trying to survive. Right? We come to their ship. Yeah. We
Neal:But but You know?
Andrew:Then we're mad because the thing sucks in our face, and that's how they've survived. And that's what we're angry about. Yeah. But What are we so angry about?
Neal:Right. Why are you so angry
Andrew:for you?
Neal:I mean, if we could just learn how to talk to them and sit down and just have a regular conversation
Andrew:wanna hug.
Neal:It's like politics. It's like politics. Nobody can have a conversation anymore.
Andrew:Look. Same thing. Science, same thing. I I heard a great quote for science. You ready for this?
Neal:Yeah. I'm ready.
Andrew:It says when ideology becomes science and science becomes ideology, then there is no room at the table for discussion. And that's a fact. Mhmm.
Neal:That's great.
Andrew:That's a fact. Yeah. It's heavy, right?
Neal:Yeah. I I that's a that is a great that is a great quote.
Andrew:Think about all the alien movies. Did they ever try to sit down and go, okay, stop. Let's talk. Did they take out the keyboard? That could have calmed them.
Andrew:That could have calmed them. Music seals the savage beast. That's what they say. They didn't even try music on them. So disappointed.
Neal:Yeah. In all seriousness, in a series like this, it better be off the fucking hook. It better be breaking bad meets, you know, alien world because it you know, it's gotta be written that well. Every episode is really good and rich, and you wanna see five,
Andrew:scenes of it. I I have been I you know, huge fan of Gladiator. Right? Saw Gladiator two. Terrible.
Andrew:Love Denzel. Hard. Love Denzel. Like, probably one of my he's in my top five favorite actors. Right?
Neal:Yeah. Terrible. For sure.
Andrew:Fell flat for sure. Right? Then I watched Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Have you seen it?
Neal:I haven't. And I heard that was garbage.
Andrew:Yeah. Yeah. So here we are waiting twenty years plus for these second movies, right, that everybody's been talking about, and this is what they produce. I mean, I watch Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, and I was like, this is so boring.
Neal:Yeah.
Andrew:So boring. Keaton did what he could with it, but it was boring.
Neal:It was very scripted. Right? In the original Beetlejuice, there was a lot of that improv happening, a lot of they let scenes roll. They let things happen. I think in this other one, they stuck to the script Yeah.
Neal:And and just
Andrew:I mean, it did have Monica Bellucci in it who was like, wow.
Neal:That's your Miley Cyrus?
Andrew:No. No. She's not my Miley Cyrus. No. She's not your Miley Cyrus.
Andrew:No. She's not she's just just like she's just a beautiful Italian woman. That's all.
Neal:Okay. Alright. Alright. I I feel like there's more to this, but okay.
Andrew:That's fine. That's for a therapy session. We'll talk about it.
Neal:Alright. Is that, is that it on alien news and entertainment?
Andrew:That's it on alien news, entertainment, and celebrities. What do you got for me today?
Neal:That's terrific, dude. We have a great story today. I really like this one. And, you know, on mostly true alien stories, I will share a, a reporting of a alien, abduction or, sighting, and you and I will, decide each individually if we think it is a mostly true alien story as we always do. And today, Andrew we have the, what I title lost to the unknown skies, the Valentich Disappearance.
Neal:And I hope I'm saying it right. The Valentich Valentich Disappearance.
Andrew:Okay.
Neal:Are you ready for this?
Andrew:I'm hit me.
Neal:Okay. This is in in October twenty first of nineteen seventy eight along the Bass Street in Australia, and it happened at 07:06.
Andrew:Did it happen down on day?
Neal:Very good. That was a great accent.
Andrew:There was some shrimps on the barbie. We're gonna see some UFOs.
Neal:Mhmm. Good day.
Andrew:I'm never gonna get hired for my Australian accent. No.
Neal:No. I think you got that. I think I think you nailed that.
Andrew:I okay.
Neal:Alright. Are you ready? Okay. So this began as a routine flight, a, young pilot. It was a clear evening and a simple route.
Neal:Okay? But by the end of the night, the 20 year old Frederick Belentich would vanish without a trace, leaving behind only a chilling radio transmission and a mystery that has captivated UFO investigators for decades. Okay. So Frederick Belentich was an aspiring pilot with a passion for aviation. He was just 20 years old.
Neal:He had logged around a 50 flight hours and held a class for instrument rating
Andrew:Well, this
Neal:is which allowed him to fly at night Okay. Alright, under visual meteorological conditions. Though not an expert, Valentich was known to be diligent, and cautious about his flights. This is what they report. On October 7078, rented a a a Cessna, one eighty two l light aircraft from a Moorabbin Airport in Melbourne, Australia, and his plan was straightforward.
Neal:He it was a 25 mile training flight over the Bass Strait to King Island and back. It was a clear evening, and everything appealed, appeared ideal for the journey. You with me? I'm with you. However, Valentich had another interest, UFOs.
Neal:Oh,
Andrew:okay.
Neal:Friends and family noted his fascination with the topic, and he had even speculated about what it would be like to encounter an extraterrestrial craft. Someone later questioned whether his obsession played a role in his final hours. So you see where I'm going. A little foreshadowing here.
Andrew:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Neal:On his final flight, Blentisch took off at 06:19PM. He headed Southwest toward King Island, and at 07:06PM, he made radio contact with Melbourne Flight Service Officer Steve Roby. The conversation that followed would become one of the most eerie and analyzed exchanges in aviation history, so they say. K. Belentish reported seeing an unidentified craft.
Neal:He descended it he dis he described it as a large aircraft with four bright lights moving at high speed and passing over him. When, Roby informed him that there were no known aircraft in his vicinity, Valentich insisted that the object was not a typical aircraft. Alright. So so so far, this, the, the, flight coordinator saw nothing on the radar. Right?
Neal:Right. It's not an air it's not an aircraft, Blentich said. As the minutes ticked by, Blentich's descriptions grew more alarming. He reported that the object was orbiting above him, emitting a green light, and appeared metallic. Like the He noted yeah.
Neal:He noted
Andrew:Or like the wait. Wait. Wait. Sorry. Like the the one that we just talked about earlier in The Bahamas.
Andrew:Yeah. Green. Okay.
Neal:Yeah. He noted its unusual movements describing how it seemed to hover then accelerate rapidly. At 07:12PM, Valentich reported that his engine was rough idling. Alright. So we're talking six minutes later during this report.
Neal:Right? He's reporting about this, and then, six minutes later, his engine now was rough idling. Seconds later, his voice took on a panic tone as he exclaimed, that strange aircraft that strange aircraft is hovering on top of me again. It is hovering, and it's not an aircraft. These would be his his word his final words heard from Frederick Valentich.
Neal:This is the last thing we heard from him. Okay. So here we are. A massive air and sea search was launched to locate Valentich and his aircraft. Over the next week, search team scoured the bat the Bass Strait and surrounding areas.
Neal:Not a single trace of Valentich, his plane, or any wreckage was ever found. Everybody was baffled. It was all of these things. So here are the theories based on this story. This is all we got.
Neal:So there was no other, there there were some I think there were some other reportings of this, but hold on a sec. So some believe that Valentich became disoriented and flew into the water. They they argued that his fascination with UFOs might have caused him to misinterpret natural phenomena and such as reflection or celestial object like Venus. That's what they're saying.
Andrew:Yeah. Did you say Venus or his penis? I mean, it's like, seriously?
Neal:Yeah. Come on. Celestial object like Venus. What does that even mean?
Andrew:I guess Venus at that time in the sky is very bright.
Neal:In Australia. In Australia?
Andrew:In Australia?
Neal:Over the Bass Strait, maybe.
Andrew:I mean, when I was there, I never saw Venus.
Neal:So Mhmm. Saw my penis.
Andrew:Saw my penis in the reflection of the celestial lights. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah.
Neal:Others suggest that a mechanical issue caused the plane to crash, though Volentich's reports of the unidentified craft remain unexplained. So, the most extraordinary theory is that, Valentich encountered a UFO, obviously. So supporters of this idea that, you know, they point to his descriptions of the craft, the strange light, lack of any wreckage. Several witnesses later came forward claiming to have seen unusual lights in the sky over the Bass Strait on the same night.
Andrew:K.
Neal:And then the less common theory is that Valentich staged his disappearance perhaps to start a new life or as a dramatic act tied to his interest in UFOs. However, there's no evidence to support this claim. That's the story. I mean, there's not much there there the prior incidences let me let me go to the prior incidences before you you weigh in here. The Bass Street area, nineteen seventies, had a history of UFO sightings throughout the seventies.
Neal:Yep. The fishermen, pilots, and residents reported seeing unexplained lights and objects in the sky all all the time. These accounts contributed to the region's reputation as a hot spot for aerial phenomena. Okay? On the same evening as Valentich's disappearance, there were belated reports of the UFO sighting in Australia.
Neal:However, the Department of Transport Transport was skeptical that a UFO was behind Valentich's disappearance. Of course, they were. Some officials speculated that Valentich became disoriented and saw his own lights reflected in the water and or lights from a nearby island while flying upside down. He he got disoriented and flew upside down. He thought maybe he saw, you know, something.
Neal:Other sightings, post 1978, following his disappearance, the vast streak continued. There's more sightings. The you know, they they see unexplained lights and objects exhibiting unusual flight patterns, and they have maintained the area's enigmatic reputation. So there's some you know, I listen. I'll I'll let you weigh in, and then I'll I'll give you my, you know, let let's get specific, though.
Neal:Let me let me tell you some specific sightings in the Bass Strait Triangle, they call it.
Andrew:Okay.
Neal:In nineteen o one, the SS Federal
Andrew:Right.
Neal:Coal carrying ship vanished with 31 crew members on board. Its wreck was not located until 2019. That's in the triangle. That is not saying that it has anything related to aliens.
Andrew:Oh, so the wreck wasn't located until 2019. They actually found the ship.
Neal:Yeah. That's right. Okay. What else? So the SS Amelia j and SS Southern Cross in 1920, both vessels disappeared in the Bass Street while wreckage of the Southern Cross was found on King Island.
Neal:The Amelia j was never discovered. I don't know if this has anything to do with anything, but, some of these are
Andrew:Related, somehow related to how so possibly. Okay.
Neal:I'm I'm, additionally, a military air code D H 9 a aircraft engaged in the search that was searching for them also vanished. Miss Hobart Nineteen Thirty Four. A de Havilland express airliner disappeared over the Bass Strait with no survivors. Only a small amount of wreckage was found on the Victorian coast. I think if you find wreckage, it's not a disappearance.
Neal:That's in my opinion.
Andrew:Oh, I I agree with you 100%. If it's gone completely, then it's gone.
Neal:Yeah. Another airliner crashed into the Senior Flinders Island resulting in a loss of an all onboard. No bodies were recovered. So that these aren't disappeared. This isn't related to alien bullshit.
Neal:Alright. So I have my thoughts on this. I think you'll be surprised at my thoughts, but I'm gonna let you Andrew, why don't you weigh in on this story and let me know if you think this is a mostly true alien story?
Andrew:Okay. Alright. So here's a little history of your friend Frederick. Alright. Yeah.
Andrew:Did you know that, he failed his commercial license five times?
Neal:Did he? Yeah. He failed his commercial license.
Andrew:He was like a wannabe pilot. Yeah.
Neal:So it's almost like a wannabe cop.
Andrew:Okay. And then a month before his disappearance, he failed three more commercial licenses. He was involved in several flying incidents, for example, straying into a controlled zone in Sydney in Sydney, Australia. He was given a warning for that, and then he twice deliberately flew into a cloud for which prosecution is was being considered. Here's the
Neal:He went he flew into a cloud?
Andrew:Yeah. He wasn't supposed to fly into these clouds apparently. Mhmm. And so they they because maybe they were storm clouds. I don't know.
Andrew:They're not really saying why they told
Andrew:him don't fly in that cloud. You're in
Neal:the sky, but avoid the cloud.
Andrew:Yeah. Maybe because clouds can create turbulence. And since he's a new pilot, it's not a smart thing to do.
Neal:Yeah.
Andrew:Okay. Now this is the greatest one of all.
Neal:So he failed a whole bunch of times?
Andrew:He failed a bunch of times. Failure as a pilot. Six days six days prior to his disappearance Yeah. He told his girlfriend, Rhonda Rushton, the possibility of UFO taking him away.
Neal:So he's losing his shit.
Andrew:Yeah. So I'm gonna say no UFO. He kamikazed into the water. He's a failure as a pilot, and he went down as a record as the greatest failure pilot by going, UFO. It's gonna get me.
Andrew:Or he just flew under radar and went someplace else. He had another girlfriend on some other island, and he lived there for the rest of his life. But they never found wreckage of his plane. Right?
Neal:Never found wreckage. Yeah.
Andrew:Yeah. Because he landed at some place else. They didn't have, tracking devices on those planes back in '78.
Neal:Okay. So you're saying it's not a mostly true alien?
Andrew:No. It's not even not even close.
Neal:Okay. Alright. So, here here is my thank you for that information too, by the way. Those are the things I did not know. So, that does come into consideration.
Neal:But here's the fantasy side of me, and you know I truly believe that there are
Andrew:extraterrestrials Yeah.
Neal:They're out there taking people
Andrew:left
Neal:and right, and we're fucking aliens.
Andrew:I mean, that was just rejected last night. I'm back.
Neal:Yeah. So so, you know, the I'd I'd love and and I always want these stories to be true. The the problem with this one is okay. And based on the information you shared too, it would be interesting to do a really good psychological study on this kid, Blentich, right, and see, like, what he grew up with as single parents, maybe, you know, maybe he have older brothers. I don't know.
Neal:Know. I don't know. I'd love I would love to find out what the psychological makeup of this kid was going into it.
Andrew:They the but this, you know, his friend said that he wouldn't commit suicide. So they don't think it was a suicide. That's that's the only thing that, I I I just just read that just now. So his friends, they they asked his friends, do you think that he would kill himself? They said, absolutely not.
Andrew:I mean, the guy failed his pilot last thing, like, eight times. He didn't kill himself. All of a sudden, what do you do
Neal:with it? Mhmm.
Andrew:So okay. Go ahead.
Neal:Yeah. So right. How many years ago is this? Thirty?
Andrew:Seventy eight. So, yeah, thirty plus.
Neal:Yeah. And he was 20. So he's, like, 55, something like that now if he were alive?
Andrew:No. He was 20 and 78, 30 and '88, '40 and '98, '50 in 02/2008, '60. He'd be in the sixties.
Neal:He's in the sixties. Yeah. So it'd be really cool right now if he reappeared
Andrew:on the show.
Neal:He reappeared and wrote a book about his alien abduction, and they kept him and took him to another
Andrew:Oh, wow.
Neal:It'd be very, very fucking cool. I mean, not not for nothing, but that'd be great. He'd be very smart for staging this and just, you know, take it off.
Andrew:You wouldn't believe what he saw, what they did to me up there, the UFO.
Neal:Wow. That's a wow. That's a good one. That's a good accent.
Andrew:Wait. If my if my camera
Neal:was on the show On the show today, we have we have, what's his first name? Frederick. Frederick Valentich. He has just reappeared from being abducted from 1978. Frederick, it's nice to have you on the show today.
Neal:Where have you been?
Andrew:I've been up at a UFO. The UFOs, they they had me up there, and they were, like, probing me and stuff in the last sixty years. I got a I got a alien wife. We have three beautiful alien children. What
Neal:are their names? What are
Andrew:their their names are beep bop and boop. And let me tell you, these kids, I'm gonna bring them down. They're gonna be professional football players here. They each got four legs. They're gonna run like crazy.
Andrew:They're gonna take over all of Australia football.
Neal:Wow. Well, you heard here first, everyone, Frederick Valentich. He's married an alien. He's got three kids. They're gonna be football stars here in America.
Neal:So what did they, why it take so long for you to come back to Earth?
Andrew:Well, you know, I had to, to fix the ship. There were some problems with the ship, and, they brought me back. They fixed it for me. It took him sixty years to fix the ship. I flew back here as soon as I could, and I wanted to, get on your show.
Andrew:Mostly true alien stories to tell you that it was a true alien story.
Neal:Well, we are happy to have you here, ladies and gentlemen. Frederick Valentich, abducted in 1978.
Andrew:And I had to get away from Rhonda. She was crazy.
Neal:Hot Rhonda. Hot Rhonda.
Andrew:That was the song that Beach Boys wrote about. Help me Rhonda. A different Rhonda, though.
Neal:Well, it's great to have you on the show, Frederick. We'll, we'd love to have you on again another time.
Andrew:I'd I'd love to be back. Maybe when my when my kids be popping, boop, get out there, and they start playing that football, you'll see them.
Neal:It's gonna be great. It's gonna
Andrew:be great.
Neal:What what were you doing all this time? What were you guys doing
Andrew:all this year? Probing. We're probing a bunch of different people. Just probing them. I fly back and on different planets.
Andrew:We were on Mars and Venus and Jupiter picking up aliens there and just banging them.
Neal:What? Crazy
Andrew:time. I'm telling you crazy.
Neal:That's some alien abduction journey you went on.
Andrew:Oh, yeah. Talk about abduction. It was seduction, abduction.
Neal:Induction,
Andrew:seduction? Abduction, seduction.
Neal:That's that's that's what they call it.
Andrew:That that's what we that's the official term I gave it.
Neal:Well, you know, I was about to to, you know, say that your story was not mostly true.
Andrew:Well, no. It's absolutely true. You know, my alien wife, she looks just like Miley Cyrus.
Neal:Oh, wow. You got me now. You got me now.
Andrew:Yeah. Actually, the Miley Cyrus at TA is not, is not, the real Miley. The real Miley's up in the spaceship.
Neal:She was taken by a snowplow, I heard.
Andrew:The snowplow plowed her and brought her up there. He made eye contact with her. At first, he was looking for Tully Swift, but couldn't find Taylor, so he settled for Miley.
Neal:K. Wow. Yeah. Well, Taylor's been busy. Football games.
Andrew:She's busy doing football games and football dudes and American football dudes mostly.
Neal:That is true. That's true. Yeah. Well, I I'll tell you what, Frederick, this is great. I'm glad you're back.
Neal:I'm glad you're safe. You look good.
Andrew:Thank you. I feel great.
Neal:Yeah. We'll have you back another time.
Andrew:I'm I'm looking forward to it. Thank you so much.
Neal:Alright. Thanks. Alright. Appreciate it. There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
Andrew:Excuse me. Who knew? Who knew? The election. Seduction.
Neal:It's abduction, seduction.
Andrew:Yeah. Abduction. Abduction, seduction. Yeah.
Neal:Yeah. Thanks thanks to Frederick. We didn't know about this.
Andrew:I never knew about that. So that's what all these these cases where they get probed. That's what it's called.
Neal:I don't know what deduction time. Yep. Hey. Hey. You wanna go on on abduction deduction?
Neal:Go down to Earth and probe the shit out of them? Who's in? So going back to this story, I mean I mean, after that interview, though, I
Andrew:Dude, the people that we get on this show is it's crazy. Yeah. Who would have thought?
Neal:Yeah. Who would
Andrew:have thought that the guy was gone? Okay. So I'm gonna say he was abducted then. I heard I talked to him. That
Neal:yeah. Let let's just say the interview. Yeah. Just based on the interview. The guy guys
Andrew:It's starting to sway me.
Neal:You know what? I forgot to ask him. I forgot to ask him if he's writing a book and doing a movie. I forgot all that shit. Next time.
Andrew:Maybe if he comes back. You know what? If he if he comes back.
Neal:Yeah. So based on everything that we've learned, you know, I really wanted this to be something, but, you know, he he he was crazy. Dude dude was crazy. Maybe he did take off, and maybe he is living a life somewhere on an island with someone else. Maybe he did wanna get away from Rhonda, hot Rhonda.
Neal:You know, all of those things. So, for me, yeah, this is not a mostly true alien story, and I think we're in agreement on that. So alright. Well, there you go. It was a great episode.
Neal:I'm looking forward to the next mostly true alien story. Andrew, do you have
Andrew:It's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. I don't know. I have some more, really cool celebrity, and entertainment is coming up too. I'd love to hear a little from congress.
Andrew:Do you have any
Neal:Congress updates?
Andrew:Yeah. You know, they've been quiet about this lately.
Neal:Trump says his first day in office, he's gonna tell us what those drones are all about.
Andrew:I know what they're all about. I can't tell it because he asked me to I signed an MBA with him.
Neal:He's sleeping with, Elon Musk under your desk right now?
Andrew:No. No. It's just Elon, are you he's still sleep. He's sound asleep. He works so hard.
Andrew:He worked all night. Don't wake him.
Neal:Alright. Good night, Elon. Good night.
Neal:Good night, everybody.