Neal Girandola (00:00)
September 27, 1989, a spaceship allegedly lands in a park in Soviet Russia. Witnesses? Dozens of kids, a few adults, and a cop. Inside the craft? A nine-foot tall being with three eyes, and a robot. This isn't folklore. It was covered by official Soviet news agencies. And today, we're going to dive into one of the strangest state-confirmed UFO landings of all time. It's the Voronezh incident, next up on Mostly True Alien Stories.
Neal Girandola (00:43)
back to Mostly True Alien Stories. It's the show where we put alien encounters on
and try to figure out if they're well, mostly true. I'm Neal Girandola, believer of all things alien. And I'm joined as always by my skeptical, always on alert co-host, Andrew Triana.
Andrew.
Android (01:01)
Hey Neal, how are you buddy?
Neal Girandola (01:03)
I'm good, man. I'm excited because this week we are headed to the USSR. ⁓
Android (01:08)
in the US.
Neal Girandola (01:09)
It's Yes,
it's take in 1989
to even we're going back to the 80s, baby. And we're going to we're going to investigate a story, Andrew, that is so bizarre. It shook Russian scientists. Apparently it shook up the school kids and the Soviet press got involved in this. And before we land the
Android (01:15)
Dude, that's Gorbachev.
Neal Girandola (01:30)
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Andrew, are you ready to get into this? The Voronezh story? I could tell when you whisper. Ready?
It started like any other autumn afternoon in Voronezh
a quiet industrial city about 300 miles south of Moscow. Okay. Kids were playing soccer in a public park near ⁓ Mendel of Yev street when
Android (02:16)
Sounds good, yeah.
Neal Girandola (02:16)
Around 630
PM,
the game came to a sudden stop and a strange pink light appeared in the sky. Then came a deep humming noise,
a descending column of light, and finally a red disc shaped craft reportedly over 50 feet wide. And it landed in front of this entire stunned group of kids and some other
So what happened next is...
pretty surreal. So and detailed they got into some details. It was a well documented UFO case
ever that was publicly acknowledged by a national government. By the way, this is the first one that we've talked about that a national government has acknowledged it.
Android (02:57)
Right.
Neal Girandola (02:58)
Excuse me. I've got some Russian phlegm coming up in my
Android (03:02)
You need
to have the clearing of the vodka here. I drink for you right now vodka.
Neal Girandola (03:05)
All right.
right. So from this red craft emerged three figures. One was a towering humanoid. It was around nine feet tall with three eyes wearing a shiny silver suit and boots. And alongside it was a robotic companion described as boxy, metallic and nearly featureless. So a boxy robot is like a box of a robot. I've never
Android (03:09)
Delicious.
Woo!
It's actually,
it's a female robot and his name is Roxy.
It's a hotbox. Hotbox robot.
Neal Girandola (03:37)
So it's a hot box. It's a hot box robot. Okay, I got you.
I got you. All right. And the witnesses claimed a second being briefly appeared holding a kind of tube or wand, which was then pointed by at a bystander causing this. was a boy causing the boy to vanish and then only to reappear minutes
shaken. That was David Blaine.
Android (03:59)
Was it David Blaine? I think it was David Blaine. It was
early on. He was a teenager. It was early on in his career. He was trying to rush you out. Yeah, of course. Believe it or not.
Neal Girandola (04:06)
It was his yeah, he did Russian street magic.
I got it.
I make boys disappear.
Android (04:16)
watch
me as I pull out my wand the boys run away and sometimes the girls do
Neal Girandola (04:19)
All right, so we
got David Blaine. We've got a hot box robot. We've got Roxy. Yep. We got all right. Also, all this stuff is happening on the streets of Russia right now. And so dozens of children, they witnessed this
Android (04:26)
Roxy, yeah.
Neal Girandola (04:34)
And then so did several adults, including a local police officer and two teachers.
chilling. ⁓ They did drawings and all of their drawings matched a three eyed bean.
a red sphere and a hulking craft with a hatch that opened vertically like a sci-fi garage
case was initially reported by TASS, the official Soviet news
A nearly unprecedented move, by the way, because Russia, you know, they just don't talk about that
Android (05:02)
Right.
Neal Girandola (05:04)
And then Soviet physicists and military officials were sent to investigate the site and soil samples were taken.
Radiation levels were measured and according to reports, spiked levels of cesium-23 and other isotopes were detected near the landing site.
and eyewitnesses also described a distorted gravity field near the craft making it difficult to move as they normally
was crushed vegetation in a perfect circle as if something heavy had indeed landed.
and lingering light phenomena in the days that followed, glowing spheres seen in the sky and near the woods at
in that
the government didn't deny it, by the way. In fact, it leaned in and a lead scientist from the Soviet Academy of Sciences, Dr. Vyacheslav Zaitsev,
Android (05:57)
He's gonna be on the show later, heard. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (05:58)
You know, I can't wait. You know what? I've had a brush up of my Russian
this guy even went on television to confirm that something had occurred there
he was quoted as saying this case has no rational explanation by our current scientific models
Naturally the Western press ran with it newspapers like the New York Times and the Washington Post they covered the story You know with a little bit of a smirk to
in their articles
Android (06:23)
They were like, these
Russians are crazy. UFOs landing in a park? What are you talking about? They had Charles Nelson Riley was like, ⁓
Neal Girandola (06:26)
That's exactly right. Yeah,
yeah. Actually, they did. They chalked it up to Cold War sensationalism or Soviet propaganda. But even skeptics couldn't ignore one fact. The government was standing by the
Android (06:36)
Yep.
Neal Girandola (06:43)
So over the next few weeks, Voronezh became a hotspot for UFO enthusiasts, you would think. Journalists and researchers, they all flocked to the landing site.
And of course the landing site was fenced off. Kids who saw the beings were interviewed repeatedly.
And in most cases never changed their accounts by the way.
There were no signs of hysteria or fabrication, just sort of this confused, you know, vivid recollections from wide-eyed kids and these startled adults.
And then it went silent, right? And then they weren't talking about it. And then by the early 1990, the incident was no longer.
being discussed. less than a year later, not even in the Soviet media and no further reports were issued. The park did reopen eventually and the investigation files were locked away. And to this day, no official debunking has ever been published by
the Russian government. So,
know, the question always is what really landed in Voronezh that day? What really happened? ⁓ Is it a psychological experiment?
Could have been a cold war ⁓ fear tactic. ⁓ Or was it truly an alien encounter? Andrew, we got Soviet kids drawing the same three-eyed giant with a silver suit and a floating orb. And you have the scientists, you have the KGB involved, you have the state news not only confirming the event but publishing the details. I'm gonna hand this over to you. That's our report, Andrew. And I'd like to know if you think this is a mostly true story or not.
Android (08:16)
Well, I've spent the last couple weeks in Russia. ⁓ I went over to Russia to do research on this. I was so excited about this story because, I speak fluent Russian. So it was fantastic to go over there and talk to the people.
Neal Girandola (08:20)
you, you really?
Wow.
You do not speak fluent
Russian, everyone. Listeners, he does not speak fluent Russian. ⁓ I wouldn't put it past him. I wouldn't put it past you to go to Russia, though, for this story.
Android (08:38)
I don't. I'm a pathological liar.
I went to Russia.
Yeah, that's where I've been. That's why the show has been kind of delayed for a little bit. This is a big story. I am.
Neal Girandola (08:47)
Yeah, that's Yeah, but you're really committed to mostly true alien stories, and that's what I like about
Android (08:54)
Okay. So I started doing some research. So what I found fascinating about this is that most UFO appearances, right? At least the ones that we've talked about.
Neal Girandola (08:54)
Okay.
Android (09:02)
have always happened at
You notice that? Everything usually happens at night. Daytime, daytime abductions. Think about it, yeah.
Neal Girandola (09:07)
Yeah, well, let me let's think about that wait Let me think about that
At night usually ⁓ I mean the ones we've talked about Yeah, I mean I guess I guess the ones we talked about I get I'm just trying to think there yeah, there's nothing really doing I mean ⁓ Pascogula Pat was pascogula
Android (09:15)
at least after sunset.
The one in Africa, Pascogula was at
night. They were fishing at night. Yeah. And floating Linda out the window was at night. The Barney Hill, they were in the evening as well. So most of these things happen at night, Kentucky at night. So we're seeing a pattern here that's different than anything else. This is literally at 6.45 in the afternoon.
Neal Girandola (09:31)
Yeah, I guess. I guess a lot of them. Linda was that night.
Yeah, that was at night. Yeah.
Yes. Yeah.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa, Ariel's school
was during the day.
Android (09:54)
That was the only one in Africa, right? That was one that was during the day. Yeah, I know, like 20 some kids saw it.
Neal Girandola (09:57)
That was a big one.
So
of the ones we've talked about and we're looking into more stories, the ma you're right. The majority of them happens at night. So go ahead. I want to know. I want to see where you're going with this.
Android (10:09)
Yeah. So this happens.
Okay. So this, mean, this is what I found interesting about this story was that it didn't, it wasn't your usual, he got me at night, you know, was 11 o'clock. was outside, they grabbed me and they probe me and then they brought me back and I fell in love with my cow and we're living together forever now, 25 years. So it's none of that. It's all like prime, prime time. This is like prime park time in Russia. Right. So, um, they describe the orb as being like over 30 feet.
Neal Girandola (10:19)
Right. Yeah.
Android (10:38)
I don't know what that would be in meters. What is that? 300 meters, right? Is it three feet? Yeah, we don't, 30 feet. 30 feet. And the sky, the orb, the thing that landed was 30 feet, right? Yeah, only 30 feet.
Neal Girandola (10:42)
I don't talk meters. So 30 feet, you nailed it for me. When you mention feet, I know exactly the size.
The orb wait what the the orb that the ship yeah, they're saying only 30 feet That's
not big
Android (11:01)
pretty good size. Well, this was when it starts appearing. They didn't describe how big it was once it got there. So when it first appeared and started floating, the sky was
And then the sky turned red, which I found, wow, that sounds like sunset, but you don't really see a lot of pinks. You see mostly orange and red with sunset, right? Pink first, then red. It hovered.
It came down and that's when the first figure appeared, right? You say he was like nine feet tall. They described him as having a tiny head, basically no neck, with three eyes, right? You mentioned that two white, one
Neal Girandola (11:27)
Yeah. Yeah.
Android (11:36)
was wearing, yeah, he wasn't a silver overalls. That's what I found, not a silver suit, but silver overalls, which I thought was quite fascinating.
Neal Girandola (11:36)
I, yeah. He's a three I three I guy.
Well, you know what, he may have been
may have been trying to assimilate himself with the people he might probably is like, they'll never know we're aliens if I wear silver overalls. Yeah.
Android (11:52)
overalls, right?
I will look like regular Russian worker. Goggles. He could have hooted. Doesn't say that they spoke or anything. Okay. So the next thing is right. The hatch opens, the stairs come down,
Neal Girandola (11:56)
Mm-hmm Maybe he should have put sunglasses on So it didn't show us three eyes
Android (12:10)
He comes out. You said the little box comes out, right? He bent down and pushed a button on the box and then all these arms.
Neal Girandola (12:09)
Yeah.
Okay. Okay.
Android (12:20)
two arms, two legs came out and the box started to move. saw that that was Roxy, Roxy the hot box robot. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (12:23)
the hotbox hotbox robot. Roxy the hotbox robot. Yeah.
She's like, it's my time to shine.
Android (12:31)
So, right. So the box started walking out down the stairs on this thing.
Neal Girandola (12:41)
Imagine
seeing that though this box of the arms come out and then it just starts walking is 1989. So these robots, you know, they're
Android (12:50)
How do you think it,
do you think it like?
Neal Girandola (12:53)
yeah, it's probably like...
Android (12:54)
She was grooving Roxy was grooving down the stairs
Neal Girandola (12:56)
I would think
though they probably made that robot and are just like maybe we shouldn't have made it a box.
Android (13:01)
We should have made it look more humanoid. Okay, so it starts walking right? kids start
Neal Girandola (13:04)
Yeah, because people are making fun of them. People are making fun of our robot.
Android (13:10)
then the
Neal Girandola (13:10)
Imagine. I imagine I would start screaming.
Android (13:12)
the ship vanished the ship
Neal Girandola (13:15)
But the aliens are still there. they they left too. They reappeared.
Android (13:16)
No, they vanished and then they reappear.
They reappear, but this time another guy that you talked about holding a tube... Okay.
Neal Girandola (13:26)
Wait, you thinking, wait, let me interrupt.
Are you thinking that when they
had like a cloaking thing that may have happened with the robot created? Like, oops, we forgot to hit the cloaking thing. We were going to land and check people out, they can see us. Obviously they can see us. So let's disappear.
Android (13:35)
might have been.
Right.
Hey,
Bill, they can see us. What do mean they can see us? Roxy, can they see us? They can see us. I was walking and they're screaming. Please hit the button.
Neal Girandola (13:46)
You didn't hit the-
I think they could see us. They're They're pointing
and screaming at us. I think they could see us. Yeah.
Android (13:58)
They see us, right? So then they disappear, right?
But then they reappear.
Neal Girandola (14:04)
think the thing, the cloaking thing was broken. think it was glitchy. I think that's what's happening
Android (14:08)
there was a loose connection maybe.
Neal Girandola (14:09)
was glitching. Yeah,
then somebody hitting the wire the switch something happened. They had a new guy on the What the shit They can see us
Android (14:14)
Ernie? Yeah? Can you fix this please? They can see us!
You can see me, right? He's right behind me, right? He's right there. Okay. Okay. So they disappear. They reappear. Now the guy comes down the stairs and he's holding that tube that looks like a gun. Right? So this new kid, the David Blaine appears holding his tube and he's looking at the crowd. Another kid sees him start screaming. He points the tube at the kid and the kid disappears.
Neal Girandola (14:23)
Alright, alright, so they disappear then they reappear. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The David Blaine alien. Yeah.
Yeah. And he goes, Abracadabra,
kids gone.
Android (14:52)
Now everybody starts screaming.
Neal Girandola (14:55)
Yeah, I would be
Jimmy!
Android (14:58)
So then the orb disappears again and the kid appears.
So as soon as the orb disappeared, the kid reappeared. So yeah, I think the cloaking tube, we can call that David Blaine's cloaking tube.
Neal Girandola (15:02)
Okay.
There was definitely a glitch on the ship.
Android (15:13)
Made the kid cloak too, okay?
Neal Girandola (15:15)
Right.
Android (15:16)
So new spread, right? Everybody started talking about this. ⁓
everybody was like freaking out, right? You talked about them bringing scientists and they found elevated radiation in that area and all that stuff happening there at that time. Now, the first story said that only kids saw the spaceship. No adults saw the spaceship. Then later the story talks about adults seeing the spaceship as well. So this is where it got a little, maybe it was lost in translation.
Neal Girandola (15:28)
Right, right. Yeah.
Alright, so you're saying early reports were just a kid's thought, then later reports said, okay.
Android (15:48)
just the kids were the only ones that saw it. And then
later, that's when you got the police officer and the, you know, they were very, think about it. They were very selective on who they chose. They chose two teachers, right? So two smart people and a police officer, someone that has credibility.
Neal Girandola (16:02)
Mm hmm. Are you thinking they chose
them to the income forward? Okay, go ahead. No, you're giving away what you're going to say but
Android (16:08)
It's, it's, it's Russia.
No, no, no. I'm just saying that these were the people that later came forward. The kids came forward, you know, and said, yeah, we saw it. And then they all drew the same thing.
Neal Girandola (16:15)
Yeah. They even
had I saw pictures of the kids that came forward. They like had a literally like, exploited them. Four of them. Yeah. Yeah, Vlad. Vlad. What's the odds? What's the odds? Kid named Vladimir in Russia. Not like Kurt or, or Steve.
Android (16:20)
Yeah, yeah there was four kids there were four kids that came over one kid was Vladimir I remember his name was Vladimir right so
in Russia.
or Youssef?
Michael? Nah,
those aren't very common Russian names. They needed names like Eddie and Tony. Tony. You don't mean any Russians named Tony. No fucking Tonys, right? Okay, now. Now, this... There was this fucking alien. He was flying the ship. He had a tube. He looked like David Blaine. You know David Blaine, right? He did a fucking show. Everybody disappeared. They reappeared. Everybody was clapping and cheering.
Neal Girandola (16:40)
No.
Jimmy
No, Tony's. No. Hey, how you doing? There was an alien.
They did a magic show.
I love
it here!
Android (17:05)
And then
they brought out this hot box. Her name was Roxy. my God, it was a great fucking show. You should have been there. You should have been there. I feel like Pesci now almost.
Neal Girandola (17:08)
Roxy the Hotbox Robot?
I
know, I know. Can you do the Tony accent but add in some Russian? A little Russian accent? I think it's hard. It's hard to do. Yeah. Alright.
Android (17:23)
No, it's hard. That'll be hard. I got to work on that one. Maybe next show next show. Okay.
Now this is what's cool Okay, we've got basically what happened with the story right but as I dug
were more things that were happening in Russia between August 1989 in January 1990 a ton of stuff was happening more appearances more appearances of this same orb, okay, so
Neal Girandola (17:42)
Okay. What do mean more things like more more like UFO? ⁓ more appearances of the same
or
Android (17:51)
same floating orb with the same large alien with the tube.
Neal Girandola (17:56)
Over a year?
Android (17:57)
No, this is just within six months between August 1989 and 1990. Okay, so on October 2nd, on October 2nd, 1989, at a train station located near,
Neal Girandola (18:02)
⁓ okay. I didn't hear this. Okay.
Android (18:12)
near Verones, about 30 miles away from Verones, on October 2nd, 1989, 40 people saw a red orb at a train station.
They also said that they saw a 10 foot humanoid inside the red
And it looked out, it had its tube, it looked out, it looked around, and then it disappeared
Neal Girandola (18:35)
so the same kind of sightings but did did the tasks and did the government did they all did they comment on this or where were these reports being brought
Android (18:34)
Yeah, so.
They were, I guess they appeared in Soviet newspapers and stuff. People were still talking about it because remember this was hot news. And like you said, after 1990,
nobody talked about it anymore. But I think this was to help solidify the story, right? Because there were more appearances. So this happened early on and then later in October,
Neal Girandola (18:59)
Right.
Android (19:10)
found this interesting too, as early as June 19th, 1989 near St. Petersburg.
Two women were on a train platform, they were talking, and they saw a ship that looked like a giant red orb with a tall figure inside. Just one figure looking
Neal Girandola (19:28)
That's very interesting. Okay.
Android (19:29)
So it started
in June. went all the way through the end of the year into January of 1990. And then there were no more appearances of anything. No more red orbs. We're talking probably five or six. found three other than the park. ⁓
Neal Girandola (19:38)
How many appearances are we talking about then? Three, four, five?
Okay. Okay. Okay. Was right. Okay. But the park was
first. Or were these these were at these others?
Android (19:53)
The first one was June 19th, right? And the date for the park was July?
Neal Girandola (19:59)
It was September.
Android (20:00)
September. Okay, so this was June. Then we had the train station in October. We had the park in September.
Neal Girandola (20:08)
So there were earlier reports prior to the park, but the park was the one that was most sensationalized. Because of the kids, probably.
Android (20:12)
that had the most people, yeah, that had the most people. Yeah,
right. So in June, on June 19th, 1989, it was just two women that saw the thing in the sky,
the whole wand thing, right, and paralyzing, right, or vanishing, that was...
Neal Girandola (20:23)
Mm-hmm.
Was it like
a want was it what was it more of a ray gun or a wand was it what do know that I can't
Android (20:31)
They described it
as a long tube and he was holding it in his hand.
Neal Girandola (20:34)
Yeah, just a tube. Like PVC,
like a piece of PVC from Home Depot. Yeah. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. A Whiffle Ball bat is like a Whiffle Ball bat. That's what I would carry. If I was an alien, if was an alien, I'd carry a Whiffle Ball bat with me and people would be like, no, he was an alien with a Whiffle Ball bat. I saw him. He carries a Whiffle Ball bat. And then somebody else would like, I saw an alien with Whiffle Ball bat. Like that's the way you brand yourself as an alien.
Android (20:40)
Possibly, possibly. Don't know what else it could have been. He was showing it to kids. That's all I know.
You know what? Maybe, maybe...
when I'm
Neal Girandola (21:04)
You just carry like an odd like whiffle ball bat and you point it at people.
Android (21:07)
I think
they forgot to describe that this alien was in the trench coat and then he opened the trench coat and was holding this tube-like thing. They didn't know what it was because they had never seen anything like this before. Remember, everything is... I've never seen anything like this before.
Neal Girandola (21:12)
And then a kid and any yeah mm-hmm yeah
kids disappeared inside his trench coat And then they reappeared You're awful all right, go on
Android (21:23)
Yes.
And then they had a doll
there like, show me on the doll where the bad alien touched you. It was here and here.
Neal Girandola (21:37)
You
Android (21:39)
No, tell me, describe to me. I want to know where did the alien touch you? Show me on the
Neal Girandola (21:44)
kids
stay away from the bad
Android (21:47)
The ones in trench coats don't trust any alien in a trench coat. They're not an alien. So here's something cool. In my research, in 1965 in France, okay?
Neal Girandola (21:48)
It's not an alien. That is not an alien.
Okay. So you're
going back from 1989, you're going back to 1965.
Android (22:02)
To 65, to talk about the tube and the people paralyzed and vanishing. In 1965 in France, a farmer by the name of Maurice
Neal Girandola (22:07)
Okay.
Android (22:13)
gray beings that were about six feet tall that appeared to him while he was out in the field and they pointed a tube at
Neal Girandola (22:15)
Mm-hmm.
Android (22:22)
and it paralyzed him. No, this was in France back in 1965.
Neal Girandola (22:22)
Wait, was this in Russia? in France. Okay.
Gotcha. Yep.
Android (22:28)
He had the
same thing happen to him, but they were different looking aliens. They were gray. ⁓ they had a tube, but they had a tube and it just paralyzed him. Yeah. And then also in France,
Neal Girandola (22:35)
Yeah, but the similar thing. Yeah.
Android (22:41)
Gatier said him and seven construction workers, aliens appeared to them with tubes and paralyzed them for a couple of minutes and then they disappeared.
That was it.
Neal Girandola (22:52)
I wonder if that was lost time though. Like I wonder if they, you know what I mean? Some sort of longer than that, but they felt like a minute or two for them. But I wonder what the two, the tube thing. So maybe there's, should grab a look into that. Maybe there's,
Android (22:55)
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Yeah.
Yeah, because they were paralyzed.
Neal Girandola (23:05)
more tube stories.
Android (23:05)
Let me do a Google search for
alien tubes.
Neal Girandola (23:08)
I wonder yeah, I wonder what pops up
Android (23:08)
I end up on the dark web. There's this whole like,
whole site that's just dedicated to alien tubes. We specialize in alien tubes. Hi, are you interested in being paralyzed or possibly vanishing? Then check out this alien tube.
Neal Girandola (23:13)
Google alien tubes. We'll fi- We'll get to the bottom of this.
You just come out of that search like horrified. my God.
Android (23:30)
I never thought I'd see anything like that or I've never seen anything like that before. And my God is sponsored by David Blaine.
Neal Girandola (23:32)
you
all right. So you're finding some tubes, tube stories around. All right. So now
Android (23:44)
Right.
Neal Girandola (23:45)
What else you got?
Android (23:45)
that's all
that's that's all I got, man. It was like the I mean, the government talked about it. Our U. government didn't start talking about it until January. So all this stuff happened in Russia from August right through the end of the year, and it wasn't picked up by U. media until January. So almost five months later, we didn't pick it up here.
Neal Girandola (24:06)
Why do you think the government allowed this to be publicized like that in Russia?
Android (24:10)
because,
well, I'm not ready to weigh in yet. ⁓ I just think that they, I think that they wanted, ⁓ they knew that something happened. That's what I think. I think they knew, they must've tracked something on radar. They must've done something that they knew that they couldn't cover up because too many people saw
Neal Girandola (24:14)
Yeah, okay. All right.
talk about this, this, this specific sighting. love all the other stuff that you brought into it. I love, I love the tube. Things got me intrigued. ⁓ you know, it wasn't a one-off so, it actually happened prior. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. And
Android (24:42)
Right, that's why I wanted to bring it up. It happened earlier in 1965. But they actually
perfected the tube by 1989. That was the research that I found too. They were like, weee. ⁓
Neal Girandola (24:50)
Right, right. Well, sort of. Yeah, yeah, they were able to make kids disappear. But
earlier, they just made them lose a little time. And now they can make kids disappear with it. So they've really perfected it in parallel. All right, so but but we have also in that same six month period, we had earlier sightings prior to the park ⁓ story that we're talking about. ⁓ And, but that was not
Android (25:01)
Yeah, and paralyze them. And paralyze them. So it's great.
Right, Yep.
Neal Girandola (25:18)
publicized did those reports of the earlier sightings come out after the park yes okay
Android (25:23)
Yes, yeah, they were
talked about, but they weren't really publicized until afterwards. So it kind of helped keep that story, fueling that story of they appeared in the park. You know why they appeared in the park? Because back in June, they appeared at a train station and two ladies saw them. And these were two women that had never met before. They just met for the first time on the train platform. They were like, I'm going home. Are you going home? I am going home too. is, what is that? It's a giant aura.
Neal Girandola (25:30)
Hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
What is that? ⁓
I hate my life.
I hate my life.
Android (25:54)
I
hate my life. I hate my
Neal Girandola (25:56)
All right. So we talked about the past with the tube thing. And then these these reports come out after this sighting. But even today now we're seeing orbs. We're seeing more orbs, right? I haven't heard of any red glowing orbs, but we're seeing these orbs pop up all over. So in these modern encounters, if you
Android (26:05)
Right.
Right.
Neal Girandola (26:13)
reports of box robot, we have we are seeing
we there are have been encounters with robots in the past.
Android (26:22)
Right,
Neal Girandola (26:23)
the orbs are for me are kind of new I mean I didn't start hearing about orbs until the past year. You know orbs I.
Android (26:23)
Right.
Right, right, well we, you know,
we, we, we, The tic tacs, right, the little tic tac. It's kind of like an orb, right, it's egg shaped or it's tic tac shaped. It's kind of orby, right.
Neal Girandola (26:37)
No, I don't think that but
see, ⁓ that's the other thing we need to clarify orb. ⁓ Orb is an energy burst, right? It's an energy presence more of than an actual physical ship. the
Android (26:53)
but it might be
what the ship looks like. You know what I mean? It could be round and...
Neal Girandola (26:57)
Well, that's the other thing, but, but
I would say more of a, you know, I would refer to this ship now because we have, orbs are so, ⁓ defined these days when people cite or orbs or we see videos of orbs, it's not a ship. is an energy presence in the sky.
Android (27:16)
Or we think, we don't know, right? It could be the light. It could be a light on the ship, right?
Neal Girandola (27:21)
Possibly. I mean, I think there's some scientists scientific
Android (27:23)
Right. And this was a color
changing orb. It would turn from pink to red.
So they were like...
Neal Girandola (27:29)
just see
let me look this up hold
Android (27:32)
Russia.
Neal Girandola (27:32)
They're saying that
sightings of red orbs are a phenomenon reported worldwide. Uh, but their nature is often debated. So explanations range from natural, natural phenomenon, like rare auras, auroras, not auras, um, such as elves and proton.
Android (27:38)
Okay.
Right. Right.
else.
Neal Girandola (27:52)
that's what they refer to or they refer to as
other theories suggest spiritual or paranormal causes interpreting them as signs of spirits or other worldly beings. So when they refer to this as an orb, I wonder though, that's why I want, I would love a little more clarification. you know, orb is an energy thing. So if they're saying that they've seen an orb like ship, I think that's more of a, not an energy burst.
it may be glowing red from it
Android (28:19)
Right.
Neal Girandola (28:21)
because of all the radiation coming off it or something
you know I don't know that that I don't feel like they're saying that this is a let me see so I just want to look back at this
Android (28:27)
Yeah, maybe you should ask that.
Neal Girandola (28:36)
a strange pink light appears in the sky then a deep humming noise
descending column of light
and then finally a red disc shaped craft is really what it says in the report so and it says in my report it says it's over over 50 feet wide
Android (28:48)
They saw, right. Right.
No.
Neal Girandola (28:56)
it's 20 feet bigger, whatever.
Android (28:58)
Yeah, that's what she said.
Neal Girandola (28:59)
I don't know if it's appearing as an orb or if it's appearing as a red disc shaped craft, but it had pink light associated with it.
Android (29:06)
Right. Did the,
did that Russian scientist say anything about
no, not really. Okay. He was just giving credibility to the radiation and all of that.
Neal Girandola (29:11)
No, I mean.
Let me look.
Android (29:17)
So he just
came out and was like, yes, there is radiation here.
Neal Girandola (29:22)
yes it is always radiation
Android (29:25)
The whole country is irradiated. We are mutants.
Neal Girandola (29:29)
it says here the search that I just brought up Vyacheslav
was a Russian fashion designer
Android (29:42)
hope they like my overalls! The overalls was what I did. I designed... I made the overall silver with a nice buckle and the boots and we are going to the discotheque.
Neal Girandola (29:46)
and a painter and a graphic artist and a theatrical costume designer.
I'm not kidding. That's what it says. So and the overalls. He's a a he's a fashion. He's a theatrical costume designer.
Android (29:58)
Hence the music.
Neal Girandola (30:11)
I think I got the wrong guy. I mean how many of my just lose sites sips are there in a Google search? Maybe he was putting on a show.
Android (30:22)
I have this
great idea! Come! We're going to dance in a red orb with a tube and overalls and I'm going to let oil all over my body. It's going to be so sexy.
I'm so
Neal Girandola (30:36)
Let me just, let me write scientists.
I'm not finding
Android (30:40)
Maybe it was all a big fashion
Neal Girandola (30:43)
fashion guy died in in 2023,
Android (30:46)
the kids are going to go crazy over these new overalls, I tell you what, 1989, welcome to the 1990s.
Neal Girandola (30:51)
you
beginning to doubt ⁓ this guy.
Android (30:59)
Well, you know, they just made up Russian
Vladimir Popuya.
Neal Girandola (31:01)
the government.
way he worked with the Soviet Academy of Sciences for the government. But
Android (31:07)
Okay. Right.
But he really didn't. He was really an amazing fashion designer. He was so ahead of his time.
Neal Girandola (31:13)
Yeah.
It's turning out to be like the moon landing.
Android (31:17)
It's like he was the Tommy Hill figure of
Neal Girandola (31:21)
we're gonna need you to do something
Bye. Bye
Android (31:23)
What is it? What
is it? Tell me, what? What do I get to do?
Neal Girandola (31:27)
We need you to simulate an alien landing!
Android (31:31)
I
would tell you what I will come up with a biggest man I could find and then I will put him in silver overalls with a belt with a buckle and boots and then beside him listen to this beside him we will have
not only any box but a box you hit the button and the legs and arms pop out and she will be so sexy she will be dancing.
Neal Girandola (31:54)
What will you name the robot? needs a name. Name the robot!
I love it!
Android (31:59)
they will have a two.
Neal Girandola (31:59)
Will it be a Foxy robot?
Android (32:01)
Foxy Roxy Boxy delicious
Neal Girandola (32:05)
All right. All right. So ⁓ yeah, I mean I could spend some more time trying to find this guy but ⁓ the guy that doesn't exist. All right. So what do we got here?
Android (32:12)
The guy that doesn't exist. Okay, sure, let's do that. Okay.
Neal Girandola (32:18)
I think it's time to weigh in. I Yeah. All right. So Andrew, do you think that this is a mostly true alien story or not?
Android (32:19)
I'm weighing in, baby.
No, I don't. think that this was some sort of Russian experiment that they were doing, some sort of, maybe some craft they had developed that leaked, it got seen, maybe like you were talking about, the cloaking device didn't work anymore.
I think that it was not a real alien experience. I think that it was flying all over Russia, checking things out and people happened to see it.
The fact that the story changed and it was kids at first and then it was kids and adults and it happened to be a police officer and it happened to be two teachers. And then they made a point to say these two women who never knew each other, complete strangers agreed to say that they both saw the orb.
a little much.
Neal Girandola (33:05)
think it's sort
of like, you know, when someone reports something that had happened, that other people see that report and then they say, ⁓ I saw that too on another night. You know, I ⁓ don't think that they, they, two of them went to the police together on the day it happened. I think it just came out, you know, and then they, then they put it together. You know that, ⁓ we got two reports from that train station. It was two different women. don't think they knew. I don't think they ever met.
Android (33:15)
okay. Okay.
right so wait so when
they each they each got home and they were like honey you're never gonna believe this i met the sweetest lady at the train station she was so lovely and by the way i saw a red orb in the sky good night
Neal Girandola (33:36)
No, I don't think it was like that.
Yeah.
and my lady friends coming over. Yeah. No, I don't think it was like that at all. I don't think they ever have you met. I don't I don't think those those two ladies, you know, it's just a you know, I saw they read an article that this had happened. They like, I saw a red orb when I was at the train station on this day. And then somebody reported and she reported that and then the other lady saw the same article and she was like, Hey, I saw a red orb.
Android (33:57)
June 19th.
But then they turned it into they both had a conversation together because that's what the research that I had was that they both met on the platform together that day waiting for the train.
Neal Girandola (34:11)
Yep. So
they met on the platform.
then they saw the separately and then called in.
Android (34:16)
Right?
Neal Girandola (34:18)
They can do wait. You're saying that this is not a mostly true alien story. Do you think that you're not seeing this clearly because it happened in Russia and or you think it's yeah. Races against Russia. Yeah.
Android (34:18)
I'm going to say not mostly true.
not not a true alien so are mostly nothing
Yeah, I'm racist against Russians. Yeah. Yeah.
You know, I'm a child of the eighties. So yeah, hate Russia, cold war. Let's play chess, all that stuff. Bobby Fisher.
Neal Girandola (34:36)
Yeah.
What do you well then what do you
think the explanation for the kids is
there was a bunch of kids they all saw it then the drew they did drawings.
Android (34:46)
Look, I think for four kids,
was four kids. Cause we have four names of four
they drew the drawing, right? But I'm telling you, it wasn't alien. was something that the Russian government was doing. It was an experiment. Yeah, they did it. That's why. And because people, yeah, because people saw it, there was like, there's no way to cover this one up. You guys screwed up. Take Ernie and kill him because the cloaking thing didn't work.
Neal Girandola (34:58)
Okay, so you're thinking the government was in on it and even the scientists were told to say
What could they possibly been? Yeah,
but do you think that that's what it's gonna say? Do you think that disappearing stuff was made up? By who? No, by the kids. The kids thought they saw disappear.
Android (35:18)
Yeah.
David Blaine.
Yeah, the kids, you mean the, the ship disappearing or the kid disappearing or both. They just made that up. They just made it up.
Neal Girandola (35:29)
Yeah, no, both like who who who made that up? You but the
government? They were saying something happened. They didn't say they didn't confirm that that had happened.
Android (35:37)
What? Right,
and there was radiation there. So this could have been some sort of nuclear craft that they were testing, and that's why there was radiation there. Yes, yeah.
Neal Girandola (35:45)
And they showed up in those suits to protect themselves.
And what was the robot? The robot was to detect it. The robot thing was rolling out to detect it. Probably didn't stand up and walk. It probably was a robot. saying that they just put out and think just rides around and like test for.
Android (36:01)
Right,
it could have been tested in the radiation levels.
Neal Girandola (36:04)
Okay, all right, so you say it's not a mostly true alien story
Android (36:07)
Not
a mostly true alien story. think it is a true story. I think something happened that day, but I think it was the Russian government doing something, not aliens doing something. Because why all of a sudden would it just stop? This is what I don't understand. Why stop? They went into hiding? Come on. No. The government did something. No.
Neal Girandola (36:18)
Okay, all right.
I think the, right. All right. So you say it's not a mostly true alien story. I'm
it's my turn to weigh
I got away all out. mean, we did have other witnesses come forward and say that they saw the orb thing happen in other places.
⁓ similar experience.
I love that you brought in the whole tube thing from other encounters from years back or throughout the years.
that's pretty
know, and then when you have kids involved, you always say, okay, when it's one kid, he, you would say, okay, he's lying and made it up, but it was multiple kids and they all drew the four. right. You're saying for, but I think it's for the four that we know of. It can't be just, it's a park. They're in a park.
Android (37:05)
Right,
and if they saw somebody in a radiation suit that they've never seen before, right, a silver suit, yeah, and it's coming out of this red thing that's floating in the sky.
Neal Girandola (37:12)
It's totally thinking it's an alien. Yeah. But
that's
where to you're going. Okay, well, what else? What if it was the government coming to test or to test out something
spray something to do something, you know, something that material that they had that caused some radiation in the
don't think that in 89, they would have this floating disk thing come down.
Android (37:38)
I
think that they were trying to bring back disco. With a color changing orb,
Neal Girandola (37:43)
definitely
I think with all of this information and the
it doesn't sit right with me. It's definitely not a mostly true alien story. It is something that maybe the government was testing out, but also maybe ⁓ what they were ⁓ creating a distraction during that time for some reason. So something political wasn't in the news or wasn't at the headlines of the papers.
Android (38:10)
Right.
Neal Girandola (38:10)
⁓ something going on ⁓ i don't know enough about politics or russian news or anything
Android (38:16)
Right, if this was, I
mean, it was real propaganda to really spread fear, right, they would have kept this thing going longer than five months.
Neal Girandola (38:26)
Yeah, they just needed that time period to really just cause a distraction. They needed a distraction. Yeah, for sure. All right. So you say it's not a mostly true alien story. I agree with you. It is not a mostly true alien story, but it was fun to go to
Android (38:28)
Explain what happened. Right. Yeah.
Yay!
Neal Girandola (38:41)
definitely there was a lot of
A lot of holes in this
All right. You heard our takes, but we want to know what you guys think. Maybe you know more about the Voronezh incident than we do.
this a real landing or just another alien tale warped by time and fear? Maybe let us know in the comments and leave a rating wherever you listen and subscribe so you don't miss the next
Alright, thanks for joining us. We'll see you on the next one. Until then,
kind to the aliens when they get here. Thanks, Andrew. Nyet-da. Nyet-nyet. How do you say bye in Russian?
Android (39:10)
Thanks, Neal.
⁓ Poka Poka.
Neal Girandola (39:18)
It's not Poka Poka. Alright everyone, Poka Poka Poka.
Android (39:20)
Poka poka. Poka poka is. Poka poka.