Neal Girandola (00:00)
You're not going to believe what happened in a small Welsh village back in
Military jets, black pyramid shaped
frozen in place and what some claim was an interdimensional
up in real
isn't ancient
was 2016 caught by everyday people who say the government's still hiding what really crashed in the
we're breaking it
One of the most controversial modern UFO encounters you've probably never heard of.
This is the Pentarch
you
get into
now on Mostly True Alien Stories.
Neal Girandola (00:51)
back to mostly true alien stories. It's the show where we dive into real reports of alien encounters government cover-ups and just
get to the truth behind what's really going on above us
I'm your host Neal Girandola and riding shotgun as always is the one and only alien Andrew
known as Android. Hi, Andrew
Android (01:13)
Hi Neal, what's going on buddy?
Neal Girandola (01:16)
like is like Christmas for all of us alien truth seekers because
in about an hour from now on while we're recording this, we have the UAP disclosure
Android (01:25)
Right, right, yeah.
Neal Girandola (01:27)
exciting today at 10 o'clock. For those who don't know,
at 10
Time, we have the House Task Force on the declassification of federal secrets.
They're holding a hearing.
And it's titled,
a very long title, it's restoring public trust through UAP transparency and
aim to address ongoing concerns about the government secrecy around UAPs, especially within the Department of Defense and the intelligence
also introducing the efforts like the UAP whistleblower protection act, which encourages insiders to come forward safely with UAP related
information. I think that's probably the most important to come from this. Now they do have some key players that are going to be in this. Of course,
leading it is Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna. She's been pushing for transparency for a while. ⁓ We also have ⁓ George Knapp. He's the journalist who's been reporting on UFOs since the Bob Lazar days.
And then Jeffrey Nucotelli. He is a Navy veteran who's spoken about strange encounters. He's had encounters, I think, out to sea.
So he's bringing that firsthand credibility of experience to that. And then there's Dylan Borland. Well, Dylan Borland, he's representing the legal side. So he's going to be trying to protect the whistleblowers, you know, coming up with ways to protect them. then, and then there's,
Android (02:42)
Right, right, because their lives are in
Neal Girandola (02:44)
you know what, here's the thing I, we could look at it. There's one, one other, we'll get to that. There's one other guy, chief Alexandra Wiggins, and he's,
Android (02:46)
Come on.
Neal Girandola (02:51)
he's more about like
the encounters affect law enforcement on the ground, that kind of stuff. So how they're going to be handled.
Android (02:56)
Right. Right.
Neal Girandola (02:57)
I think it's important. I think it's important that we're getting, you know, we're having these hearings. I don't know how effective they are. But as you said,
whistleblowers need protection. And I think that they think that they do. And I think if that's
what it takes for them to reveal more to us if we can assure protection for them, then I think it's a good thing.
Android (03:18)
that why Stephen Gero hasn't responded to my fight?
he's a...
Neal Girandola (03:20)
Was he a
Android (03:21)
He says he is! He says he has information!
Neal Girandola (03:21)
not a whistleblower.
Yeah, but he's not a government whistleblower. I'm talking about these government guys, know, Grush and, and, know, even Lazar. Although I just heard Lazar say he has no interest in coming and speaking in front of Congress and swearing under oath that he's seeing all these things. So I don't, I don't know what to read into that. I don't, I don't understand that.
Android (03:29)
⁓ right, right. Yeah. Yeah, those guys. Yeah.
seeing you the right.
It's you know what it's
going to be it's going be
paper rustling and they're going to be like according to the report that you gave on December 12th 1989 at your state here that you saw UAP guest.
Neal Girandola (03:59)
Yeah, I saw
It flew right by me.
Android (04:00)
And
it flew at what you're calling subsonic speed.
you have data on this?
Neal Girandola (04:04)
Yes.
I'm not allowed to talk about the data.
Android (04:08)
Second question, who cuts your hair?
Neal Girandola (04:10)
Mm-hmm.
Oh, that I can tell
That I can share with
don't know. think, I think, do you think this is a mostly true alien story? You think this is going to get anywhere?
think it's going to move the needle?
Android (04:21)
⁓ nothing's gonna move. It's gonna be the same old crap. They might, you know what? They might release maybe a photo or something to keep the, they're gonna just put a couple breadcrumbs out so that you can pick and eat a little bit and pull something from it and then whatever they give you, you know, everyone's gonna interpret it and read into it, you know, and then they're gonna be like, I told you, I told you all along. They've been covering this up.
Neal Girandola (04:44)
my issue with disclosure is that, you know, I think it becomes a tool for them now. And then they're going to,
yeah, we're going to disclose stuff, but they're just going to control it still.
Android (04:55)
Speaking of disclosure, where's this film? Where can you watch it?
Neal Girandola (04:58)
You bring
you love bringing that film up. love that films. Do you think the film's going to be the answer to all of our problems?
Android (05:01)
It came out in March. No, but where
is the film? I want to see it. I didn't go to South by
Neal Girandola (05:09)
What's the name of the film again? What's it called? The age of disclosure. It's been so long. I can't remember. It's aged out. Maybe they'll talk about that in the hearing.
Android (05:11)
The age of disclosure or something?
I'm aged out. It's aged out. It's, it's the same shit, but the people in the movie
are the same people that are talking to Congress. It's the same bullshit guys. It's just, I'm, I'm
Show me, show me the fricking reports. Stop
Neal Girandola (05:27)
Don't be tired. Don't be tired.
Yeah.
I don't think the movie moves the needle. I think, I think they're having issues with that. I don't think they're not, I don't think they're not putting it out because of, people are stopping them. I just think that they're trying to build a bigger,
more dramatic release to it. Possibly. I don't know.
Android (05:46)
Part two.
Neal Girandola (05:47)
Yeah, maybe there's fights internally over who owns it and who's getting what for it, you know, and I think that's all too. I think there's also a lot of money involved in this whole thing, not just the movie, but in the disclosure
Android (05:51)
Right.
Neal Girandola (05:58)
and I think, I think even if they, if they loosen
mean, tighten down whistleblower protections, I think the whistleblowers can make more
anyway, I'm excited about it. I mean, that's gonna happen in about an hour from now of our
on today, the 9th, which is September 9th. And I'm definitely going to make a cup of coffee and sit there and watch the whole thing so everybody else doesn't have to. And then we'll do video about it. Mm-hmm.
Android (06:21)
I'm actually, when this is over, I'm hopping
on a plane and flying directly to DC. We should have been reporting from there. That budget, our budget, it's too, you know what it is, we're so high tech. It's been a.
Neal Girandola (06:26)
You're going right there. We should have gone. We should have gone on road trip to Washington.
Our budget isn't... I spent it on t-shirts.
Yeah, we spent it on our t shirts. Yeah, there you go. Well, you know what though today do you are not today but yesterday September
Android (06:44)
This was last four months salary was right here.
Neal Girandola (06:53)
Star Trek Day. It was the 1966 the first
released which was very cool.
Android (06:57)
Yeah. Yep.
Neal Girandola (07:00)
To celebrate or to our Trekkie friends. ⁓ man. ⁓
Android (07:00)
⁓
Neal Girandola (07:07)
nailing that song. All right, you ready to get into today's story?
Android (07:11)
I am
so freaking excited about this story.
Neal Girandola (07:14)
I will tell our
listeners that Andrew was pushing to do this story for a while. He's like, we're doing that. Let's do that today. And I had, I went through it and I have to agree with him, but okay. Let me just tell our audience though, how, how this all
we're going to walk you through a real report, a true report of an alien encounter. We're going to provide as much detail as we possibly can.
And then Andrew's going to jump in and fill in some blanks. I'm going to hand it over to him. And then we're going to add context to that. We're going to both weigh in on whether we think it's a mostly true alien story or
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get into it. This is the Penturch UFO incident.
It happened on February 26th in 2016. This is a fairly recent event that probably a lot of people don't know
Now, ⁓ nestled in the countryside near Cardiff
the quiet village of Penturch. It's known for fields, hills, sleepy pace of life. But on one night, yeah, yeah. But on one night in 2016, that piece was violently
Android (08:22)
It's beautiful.
Neal Girandola (08:28)
and that has never fully recovered. So for weeks leading up to the night of February 26th, local resident Kaz Clark and her neighbors noticed military aircraft circling low over the
⁓ which isn't unusual in itself. Cause Wells Wales has, hosted the RAF training for years, Royal Air Force training for years, but this felt
pattern, the frequency and the duration were intense and
almost targeted, seems, according to Kaz.
Then around 2 a.m. on February 26th, Clark says she witnessed a massive black triangular or pyramid-shaped object silently floating over the fields just outside her home, and with it were smaller red and green lights that didn't behave like any drone or aircraft she had ever
According to Clark, the object hovered silently until suddenly chaos. Military jets and helicopters arrived, and then she and others claimed to have experienced a sudden paralysis, like being frozen in place.
what followed was a four-minute encounter she describes as a coordinated military
was a loud bang, echoed through the countryside, and some believe it was an
Others think it was a crash.
and then local accounts describe flames or light coming from the nearby wooded
claims to have seen one of the craft shot down and what followed was a massive military response that shut down access to the area.
she believes the object was not of this world and that it was recovered that night under high
Here's where it gets a little
the, the Royal Air Force later confirmed that aircraft activity confirmed aircraft activity in the area. And they called it part of a routine training mission, but longtime residents familiar with standard operations were quick to point out. This wasn't standard.
Clark began asking
filed freedom of information requests and the replies were all
were blocked requests. Some even cited national security as a reason for withholding the information. Eventually, Clark self-published a book titled The Penturch Incident where she outlined
version of events and evidence of what she claims is a
And she alleges forged maps
inconsistencies in flight records and illegal operations conducted on UK soil. And then since then, the story has gained traction in the UFO circles.
they refer to it as the Welsh
I mean, you can just add Roswell to anything. It just becomes the old
Android (11:06)
Alright,
I'm gonna have some coffee Roswell later. It's alien urine that's been distilled.
Neal Girandola (11:09)
my god, Alien Coffee, I love it.
All right, but despite the buzz, there's still no hard proof. There was no photographs. There's no videos, just a series of testimonies blocked documents. I mean, that's what would raise my ears and the memory of a terrifying night that some want you to forget.
Android (11:27)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (11:30)
going to hand it over to Andrew. That is the report is I have it. I know Andrew's going to fill in some details here. Uh, he's been calling me for days about this thing. And so I'm excited to talk about it because I kept telling them to stop. I don't want to hear. want it here when we hear it
Android (11:43)
What was weird is that when I called you, was like, the number you have reached has been temporarily disconnected or no longer in service.
Neal Girandola (11:47)
Yeah, well you call me 18
times a day. All right. So Andrew that there's are some questions. So, you know, was this a botched exercise? It was at a drone crash. Was this a real encounter
Android (11:55)
Thank
Neal Girandola (11:59)
or was it something stranger that the government moved quickly to contain? So Andrew, I'm gonna hand it over to you and we are going to determine whether this is a mostly true alien story or not.
Android (12:09)
All right, so let me begin by saying I love this story. I think I've said this enough already, but this is a great, great, great story. ⁓ It actually took place over three days, not just one day, three days total.
Neal Girandola (12:14)
Yeah.
⁓ okay. All right.
Android (12:25)
And it's Kaz Clark. She didn't mention her neighbor David, but we never got a last name ⁓ for David. She described...
Neal Girandola (12:33)
She mentions
David as one of the guys who also witnessed this and was involved in some way and shape or form right. Okay. Okay.
Android (12:38)
Yeah, yeah, they both were, they both were involved, but Dave doesn't have a last name. So, you
know, whenever they don't have last names, I always, that automatically throws up a red flag. Kaz exists, Kaz Clark, she does exist. I've watched several interviews ⁓ with her, but here's the weird thing is
Neal Girandola (12:47)
Yeah, but Kaz really does exist. Kaz exists. I don't. Yeah. Yeah.
Android (12:58)
way she described this pyramid shaped craft, she said it didn't.
Neal Girandola (13:02)
Mm-hmm.
Android (13:04)
It didn't like fly in. She said the way she describes it is that it emerged out of nowhere, like materialized out of nowhere. But the military was already kind of on alert the night before they were going nuts. Like it had been there already, right? So she described.
Neal Girandola (13:10)
mmm cool yeah okay that
Yeah, I guess that's why
the buzzword interdimensional is in this whole story too. okay, yeah, go ahead.
Android (13:26)
Right. Right, right, right. So she
says it materialized out of nowhere. It was a thousand feet long on each side. This, this huge triangle. She described it as being like 30 stories tall. I mean, 30 stories is huge.
Neal Girandola (13:36)
Okay, that's big.
Are you able to tell on something is a thousand feet in the eye? I couldn't tell you how big a plane is. Okay.
Android (13:45)
I couldn't, you couldn't tell if it's going up, you know, so I'll give her three stories. I'll give her three stories. Okay. I'm
going to give her three stories. She said there was no sound whatsoever. And she said, it didn't just hover. She said it swung in the air like a pendulum. And she was 200 feet close. She was 200 feet below.
Neal Girandola (14:09)
What's it what's what do think it's
doing if it's swinging like a pendulum in the air? What What is it? What's
Android (14:15)
It was
Neal Girandola (14:16)
a great spot wanted to be alone with the Welsh farms? Yeah, wait a minute, but before we go a little further, and maybe you're gonna get to this. It is 2016 there are cell
Android (14:19)
It was like...
Let's groove tonight.
Neal Girandola (14:32)
There's able the capabilities to videotape
Android (14:36)
going to get there. Can I? yeah, I'm really going to get there. I'm really going to get there. Okay. All right.
Neal Girandola (14:37)
You you are really gonna get there. ⁓ all right. Let's go. Let's go. All right, let's go
Android (14:43)
underneath this pyramid, the temperature dropped negative five degrees Celsius. It was cold. was so cold that this is from Kaz's report. It was so cold that she could see her breath. Okay. Now meteorologist in the area picked up on a temperature change in that area.
Neal Girandola (14:45)
Yeah.
Mm.
This is from Kaz's report.
Hmm.
Android (15:05)
Which is fascinating because I was like, does she know it's five degrees Celsius difference? The meteorologist in the area said that at that time, which is like two o'clock in the morning, the temperature changed drastically changed. she said the cold, the David Davis David Davis is, is, is a part of it. Okay. She said that she felt the cold begin in her body and then like come out. She said it was weird. It was cold. Like she had never experienced before.
Neal Girandola (15:09)
Right.
Yeah, right. Now, is neighbor Dave, is neighbor Dave a part of this too? Is he kind of confirming that?
Okay.
⁓
interesting.
Android (15:35)
Then
all of a
some green things shot out the
Green, off this giant pyramid, right? So underneath, she described the lights as being white.
Neal Girandola (15:38)
this giant pyramid ship right the 10 the 10
story tall pyramid that's 1000 feet on either side she's seen this green stuff shoot out of the top swaying back and forth and shooting out two in the morning and she's cold I'm so cold Dave neighbor Dave I'm so cold hold me okay
Android (15:46)
Shot out. Got so excited from swaying back and forth.
So the
green stuff shoots out the top. Cause I guess the ship was excited. You know, they don't know what it was, but it was green lights. She said it was. No, it wasn't Jill. It wasn't, it wasn't like, ⁓ no, no, or excited spaceship goo, whatever that is.
Neal Girandola (16:02)
Okay, okay Yeah, yeah, did it come did it come oh, it's just always lights. It's not gel or anything like that. Oh Wasn't like slime damn it. Okay
Right, right,
right. ⁓ humans. Yeah. And neighbor Dave and neighbor
yeah.
Android (16:28)
green lights. ⁓ Billy. No, she
said the green lights were so bright she had to cover her eyes. Then lightning shot out the bottom of the pyramid. Red, static lightning. And she said it moved around as if it was looking for
Neal Girandola (16:37)
Okay.
Wow.
Is it above her or a little bit out in the horizon? is she? Yeah. So she's seeing it all. Okay. Yeah, but
Android (16:52)
It's a little, it's out in the horizon. It's out in the horizon, more than 200 feet away. She describes as 200 feet. mean, 200 feet's pretty good distance.
Neal Girandola (17:02)
enough to be like, what the
Android (17:04)
she said that the lightning lasted for like three or four seconds and then it stopped. Then four C-17 aircraft appeared in the
Neal Girandola (17:09)
Okay.
Okay,
Android (17:17)
flying.
Neal Girandola (17:17)
she didn't know obviously
what C-17s are but she she probably found out later they're C-17s Yeah, because I wouldn't know a C-17 from a chinook. Well, I know what chinook No, does. Yeah. Yeah, okay
Android (17:21)
Later she researched later she researched and
It looks like a bomber. looks like a bomber. Yeah, you would know it. Yeah. Yeah. If you saw
the craft and if you had seen it once, you'd be like, yeah, that's a C-17. When I was doing research, I saw the pictures like, my God, that's a C-17. And then as I was digging, it's like there were four, they were flying wing the wing. Listen to this.
Neal Girandola (17:34)
Okay, all right.
So, so, so right, but
they're, used to seeing training out there. maybe she already knew what these jets were. Yeah. Right. Okay. Yeah.
Android (17:47)
Exactly. But
just know that C-17s are used to carry tanks and troops and jeeps and big equipment. Yeah. They're big equipment. She said they were flying about chimney
Neal Girandola (17:53)
Oh, they're big. Okay, there. Yeah, there are there. You're haulers. Okay.
Okay, that's low.
Android (18:00)
The green lights in the sky flashed. She said not like they were going to tag, but like they were giving some sort of signal.
Neal Girandola (18:10)
So the green lights from the ship, UFO is flashing. Yeah, okay.
Android (18:13)
Yeah, yep,
said, then the pyramid vanished.
But before it vanished, it launched these red barrel shaped objects out that flew over the field. They rotated in front of, she described them as red barrels. They floated in the sky in front of her, right? They were rotating. Then they locked, it seems like they locked on her and they flew at her and
Neal Girandola (18:27)
Like drones? Like drones?
Okay.
Yeah. Yeah.
Android (18:42)
and stopped about 30 feet from them.
Neal Girandola (18:45)
Wow.
Android (18:45)
She said
she couldn't move. She was frozen. It was like there was nothing. Like she couldn't, she tried to move, but she couldn't move.
Neal Girandola (18:54)
She didn't
mention that was out of fear she was frozen or it was just... Paralyzed. Just stuck. Okay.
Android (18:57)
No, she wasn't frozen out of fear. She was literally frozen. Yeah. So
her legs couldn't move, so she couldn't run away. She said that she reached in her pocket to grab her cell phone to video all this, right? But the phones were dead, not low battery. They were completely drained of their energy. They were dead. She said the barrels got closer, but she could see through them like they were glass.
Neal Girandola (19:09)
Mm-hmm. Okay.
Waaaa-
Mm. Mm.
Android (19:24)
the barrel was that same red static lightning at the bottom and like floating around.
Neal Girandola (19:29)
in it. wow.
Android (19:31)
All of a sudden the barrels turned from red to green.
she said the light went through her this green light. said she felt like the light was like scanning her, like she could feel it over her body. Right. She said that she didn't know she wasn't afraid. She felt energized.
Neal Girandola (19:41)
Hmm. Okay.
Android (19:50)
She felt ⁓
Neal Girandola (19:51)
⁓ Yeah.
Yeah.
Her neighbor Dave went inside and had the greatest sex of their night. Yeah, the greatest sex
of their night. I am so energized!
Android (20:09)
So energized. want some more of those green things shooting out the top of the pyramid. I love it.
They disappeared. They left her, but she felt something in her. She says she felt like her nervous system had changed. Like something was weird, she said is how she
Neal Girandola (20:15)
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
Android (20:26)
on, she described it as she felt like she was getting a data transfer, like she was being uploaded or downloaded or something. She said it felt like.
Neal Girandola (20:26)
that what she meant by that.
or they're they're taking
from her but not leaving anything.
Android (20:38)
Not
leaving it. Yeah. Taking from her mostly.
Neal Girandola (20:40)
Mm-hmm. Okay.
Android (20:42)
At the same time in that area, the police were getting a ton of phone calls. I mean, just a ton of phone calls, people seeing lights in the sky, copters, planes, everything happening. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (20:50)
So people are seeing something. Okay. Unusual activity, weirdness,
all of the- yeah. Okay.
Android (20:59)
Now this all happened about two something in the morning, right? But when she got home,
the time she went back to her house, was 3.50 AM. So she had lost time. She had lost like an hour and a half of time somewhere in there. She thought she had only been gone for like four minutes, but it was like an hour and a
Neal Girandola (21:17)
Okay.
Dave say anything about lost time or no neighbor Dave.
Android (21:22)
Yeah.
Yeah. Neighbor Dave said the same thing, right? When she looked at herself in the mirror, she had black hair. She noticed that one of her hairs on her head was white now that she had never noticed before, which I found. Okay. Maybe rogue. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And squash. Crush them. Okay. At 4 21 AM, there was an explosion.
Neal Girandola (21:25)
Okay.
She's like, she's like superhero now. And she could lift heavy objects with her mind.
Android (21:51)
explosion in the air.
a few minutes later, there was an explosion on the ground and it was so powerful. It shook the houses. It shook a local hospital. It read on a
That's how powerful of the explosion that it was. Okay.
Neal Girandola (22:03)
Wow.
Did other people
see did other people see it and hear it?
Android (22:10)
Yeah, other people heard the explosion. Nobody really saw an explosion, they just heard
They heard a boom in the sky and then a boom on the ground. Now here's something weird. All the parents in those areas said that none of the kids woke up that night. They all slept through
Neal Girandola (22:15)
Okay.
What is that? Does that mean anything? What's that mean? Yeah, what does that mean? Like, they're making people
Android (22:28)
I don't know. I don't know. I just found it fascinating that.
Neal Girandola (22:32)
Some people could hear the explosion, other people just slept through it.
Android (22:35)
just slept through it. Yep. Yep. But the kids, was mostly the
everything.
Neal Girandola (22:39)
I wonder why, like, what
would be the purpose of making the kids just sleep?
Android (22:43)
They didn't want them to experience it? It's
the next morning she went out to the
and it's appeared that everything
Neal Girandola (22:50)
I
would have been out in the field all
I would have just never even got went to bed. I would have just gone and been in it.
Android (22:51)
Dude, she was freaked out.
the field behind her house is where the pyramid had, had gone. She went back there to look in the next morning, very early in the morning. And she said, everything that was under where the pyramid had been was dead. She said, so imagine a tree and she, there was pictures. saw this half the tree was green. The half that was facing the pyramid was dead, was all dried out.
Neal Girandola (23:19)
Wow.
Android (23:20)
It was snowing in that area. But it wasn't normal snow. She said it was like white mushy pellets that didn't melt. They just dissolved.
Neal Girandola (23:23)
Mm-hmm.
Ew. Like Soylent Green.
Like Soylent Green. Like it just takes people and eats them and then spits them out into these pellets. ⁓ God. Neighbor Jay?
Android (23:35)
think it was part of the green goo.
And she's like, Harry?
in that area right near in Penn and in Pentark is, ⁓ a thing called an area called smile log woods.
log woods is this beautiful area where it's wooded and people go camping there and they go hiking there.
in that area, dude, there were trees, six trees that are 60 feet tall. We're cut like in an angle.
Neal Girandola (24:09)
Hmm.
Hmm.
Android (24:10)
looked like something had crashed, but she didn't get a chance to go over there. Why do you
All of a sudden, there's all these tents and stuff. Yeah, all these tents. And she went over there to talk to them. And then she was like, Hey, what's going on here? And they're like, ⁓ we're here doing it. We're doing a, we're doing a fracking survey.
Neal Girandola (24:17)
They roped it up. Yeah.
nothing.
Android (24:34)
a fracking survey. Now here's what's something fascinating. Fracking is illegal in that area. So you can't frack. So what type of survey are you doing? Yes. Yeah. Yep. Okay. So.
Neal Girandola (24:34)
Really?
Wow.
It was illegal at the time then at 2016. Okay. But
you're saying they're giving her an excuse for being there, you're thinking this might be government covering something up. Okay.
Android (24:54)
Yeah, cover me
covering something up. The next day she goes back because she can't settle. Now her hair is no longer black.
Neal Girandola (25:03)
She like
the Karen Karen of
I know it's aliens.
Android (25:05)
I'm gonna tell you what, you're gonna let me in there.
me get my camera out, I'm gonna video
Neal Girandola (25:11)
bottom of this I'm gonna go get
David neighbor Dave
Android (25:16)
Then she's like neighbor Dave. he's balanced. Okay. So here's what's weird, right? The first day she went out there and I'm like, Hey guys, we're here to do a fracking survey. The next day she goes out to talk to the guys that are out there and they're like, ⁓ hi. Yeah. We're from
Neal Girandola (25:18)
Neighbor Dave is pellets. He's pellets!
Android (25:34)
we're checking some cell towers. We're checking some cell tower stuff, but here's the fascinating thing. They were wearing hazmat suits and carrying assault rifles
Neal Girandola (25:34)
⁓ it was a new group. New group.
new marketing strategy. They're gonna wear hazmat suits and carry machine guns. They said that.
Android (25:45)
gun.
You will use Vodafone and you will love Vodafone.
Neal Girandola (25:58)
Yeah, that that's odd. All
right. So, ⁓ but this is one day and then the next day. So you got frackers and then you got Vodafone there and everybody's wearing hazmat suits and they're just. Yeah.
Android (26:02)
And then the next day, right.
So she's, she's trying to get answers from people,
right? She's really trying hard to get answers from people. Well, a few days later, the military comes out and there you
Hey everybody, ⁓ calm down. It's all good. was a military. Operation called operation
right, everybody go back to bed. Nothing to see here. No, no. I said, go back to bed, go back to bed. There's nothing to see here.
Neal Girandola (26:31)
They actually had a name for it. They had a name.
Sleep sleep. Wait, so so but they actually called it Operation Chameleon.
Android (26:37)
sleep.
Operation
chameleon, or exercise chameleon. There's two different, there's, I found two different things. either called the exercise chameleon. ⁓ and it's a routine training drill and it usually involves, guess what? C-17s and Apache helicopters and explosions because they're there. It's supposed to represent or it's supposed to emulate a terrorist attack.
Neal Girandola (26:49)
Exercise. Camellia. How'd they come up with that name?
Yeah.
Okay. Yeah, all that stuff. In the sky.
Android (27:12)
right. Bye.
Neal Girandola (27:12)
By aliens.
I think that's what he left out. He left that out. Because maybe it is all that to emulate the whole terrorist attack by aliens.
Android (27:25)
So, so
Kaz is like, dude, she's not giving up. She's where she starts writing letters to the she's she's she starts writing letters to the ministry, ⁓ ministry of defense, the O D over there. Right. And as she's doing this, she's, she's talking to people and she interviewed or talked to three guys who said that they were camping in smile log woods at the time of the crash. That they were taken by military and beaten up and told to shut up and don't talk about.
Neal Girandola (27:31)
I don't think Kaz would give up.
Yep. True.
Mm-hmm.
Android (27:55)
anything. They took their phones
Neal Girandola (27:56)
But the first thing they
did was they told Kaz about it. This whole experience. Yeah, let's tell Kaz. Okay. Yeah. ⁓
Android (28:01)
They took their phones and wiped their phones. One person that
she talked to said that he drove through like red and blue crushed glass, which is how she described the barrels. So if they shot the barrels down, they would have shattered, right? If they were glass.
Neal Girandola (28:16)
Mm. Mm-hmm.
we have the names of those three guys or no?
Android (28:17)
Yeah.
No, that was the thing. I couldn't find names of, I couldn't even find Dave's last name, neighbor Dave's last name. Right. Okay. So Kaz is like, she starts really documenting everything. And as she's digging into this, there was a news organization called whales online, which is whale. She just started talking to people. It's the town. Everybody knows Kaz and neighbor Dave.
Neal Girandola (28:24)
Neighbor Dave, neighbor Dave, yeah.
I want to know how she found the three guys camping.
Okay.
Okay. Yeah, that's true.
Android (28:47)
You know, that's what I'm guessing.
I don't think this is a big city.
Neal Girandola (28:51)
Karen Kaz.
Here she comes. I'm gonna tell her that I was camping and I saw some fucking aliens.
Android (28:57)
I'm just
going to tell her because she believes this alien shit. She said she was probed 15 times, right? So ⁓ that night, what she uncovered is that night at Cardiff Airport, an Apache helicopter crashed or landed, did an emergency landing because a cockpit was on fire.
Neal Girandola (29:00)
Let's just go with it. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Android (29:14)
The hospital in that area, this is what's really weird is that the military started coming out with their story, right? This is an exercise, right?
Neal Girandola (29:21)
Sure,
yeah, they're covering basses here.
Android (29:23)
The hospital's first story said it was an explosion that shook the
Then they retracted that and they said, ⁓ there was no explosion. That was a, maybe some sort of seismic tremor. then the third report was everything's normal guys. happened that night. So things started, things started disappearing. Right. But as she kept.
Neal Girandola (29:28)
Mm-hmm. Huh?
No. No. Nothing here.
Nothing happened. Interesting.
Right, right. And that's what makes you look further into
it too, I think. Once you, once you know that should happen and then someone says one thing, you know, that's credible, and then they backtrack and say something completely different, you go, ⁓ there's definitely something going on.
Android (30:01)
Right.
Well, the news media, the news media, there's a news organization called Wales Online. Not as in.
Neal Girandola (30:11)
Mm
Right. Yeah, right. Right. Right. W-H-A-L-E-S. Yeah. Yeah. This is whale. This is whale's tails online and not T-A-I-L-S. T-A-L-E-S.
Android (30:14)
W-A-L-E-S, right, not W-H-A-L-E-S.
That's a different one, that other whale.
So, so whales online first reported explosion near Smilog Woods.
Neal Girandola (30:33)
Mm-hmm.
Live on Wales
online. We've got the we've got the news for you. Explosion in the sky. It's nothing to look at. It wasn't even an explosion. Those fires you see those red aliens running around the woods. They're not aliens.
Android (30:56)
No. Those little gray guys on fire? Those are stuntmen and special military people.
Neal Girandola (31:00)
No. Stuntman.
With Vodafone.
Android (31:06)
So, ⁓ since she documented everything, she learned all this stuff, military stuff, right? So she started writing letters because there's a thing called the freedom of information act.
Neal Girandola (31:17)
Mm-hmm.
Android (31:17)
where you make requests to the government, right? And
every single letter, dude, they were like, military exercise, military exercise, military exercise. Then there was nothing. There was no military exercise. There was absolutely nothing that happened that night. We don't know what you're talking about.
Neal Girandola (31:23)
Yeah, they got denied.
Yeah. Right.
nothing.
⁓ so
she got responses early on that said it was military exercises. And then as she kept following up following up, eventually, they were just like, they weren't there. We don't know what you're talking about. There was nothing going on. ⁓
Android (31:40)
Yep.
Right. So
if they do military exercises in that area, they have to let the residents of that area know five days in advance that something is going to happen. There was no notification. If they're going to do explosions or create a scenario, they still have to notify the people in that area because it's public space three days in advance.
Neal Girandola (31:53)
Sure.
Okay. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Android (32:13)
And so there was no notification of anything. So technically everything that happened, if it was a military operation, was illegal.
Neal Girandola (32:21)
Well, could it be possibly that they did do a military operation and then they realized they forgot to notify the people. So now they're denying that there was a military operation.
Android (32:30)
No.
Neal Girandola (32:31)
Could be.
It could be a scenario.
Android (32:32)
right. No, no, it could be. It could be right. It could be that it could be a scenario. Right. So
as she looked into the planes that were
there was one plane that stood out to her. I don't know if she's like a plane guru. She's like a war buff. I don't know what her deal is.
Neal Girandola (32:46)
I'm just assuming if you live in that area and there's training exercises going on, you're going to take interest in what's flying overhead and learn.
Android (32:53)
She said
that there was a Hawker Beechcraft Shadow R1. Call sign, Snake 48.
Neal Girandola (32:58)
Mmm. ⁓ that's my favorite plane.
Not Snake 48.
Android (33:04)
fucking snake 48 dude, snake pliskin it was escape from whales it was escape from smilog woods Kurt Russell is gonna do the movie dude it's gonna be great he's gonna reprise his role as snake pliskin ⁓ escape from smilog woods
Neal Girandola (33:14)
yeah. ⁓ escape from Pentage.
Android (33:24)
Okay, now here's something that's interesting is that that plane, that particular plane was decommissioned in
But in 2014, it came back after a top secret
Meaning they put some sort of top secret machinery inside this thing and it's flying over Pentuc.
Neal Girandola (33:41)
Okay.
Android (33:44)
Why?
Neal Girandola (33:43)
Okay, but
but why not? Maybe they did. Maybe they did improve it. Maybe they do that all the time with planes in the military. They put new stuff on it and say, let's test it out. But what is your what is what is your thought behind that? Or what is their thought?
Android (33:53)
So.
Maybe, maybe. My thought is that
there was something weird going on there that they had to bring in this special craft to see if they could detect it, whatever it was. They lost something. Something was lost in those woods that they did find and they got it out of there. So later on, the MOD finally
Neal Girandola (34:08)
Hmm.
Okay.
Android (34:18)
to Cass, to Karen. The Ministry of Defense claimed.
Neal Girandola (34:21)
the Ministry of Defense, right?
Android (34:25)
not the Ministry of Magic, this is not Harry Potter World, this is the Ministry of Defense.
Neal Girandola (34:26)
Right. Mm-mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Android (34:29)
They claim to Section
Neal Girandola (34:31)
Which
Android (34:33)
Defense.
Neal Girandola (34:34)
depends on what?
Android (34:35)
That's it. That's all they have to claim is that it's national defense
why they didn't have to notify the people because it was national defense, but defense against what they will not
no counterterrorism exercises took
Neal Girandola (34:48)
so the government just said eventually just said is national defense so there there you go. We don't have to tell you anything more. That's it crazy Karen Kaz and neighbor Dave that's all you're gonna get from us. We don't have to explain any anymore.
Android (34:58)
Right. But
all the lies prior to that, remember they called it Operation Chameleon? Right. Well, Operation Chameleon actually took place a week earlier in Northern England. It didn't take place where they are.
Neal Girandola (35:04)
Right. Yes.
okay. they're right. didn't
anybody look that much further into it.
Android (35:18)
So if
anybody looked for Operation Chameleon, they would find that yes, exercise happened and yeah, that must have been what it was. Now.
Neal Girandola (35:20)
Find if there's an actual... Yeah. Sure. Okay.
Android (35:26)
the triangle shaped ships that she saw, right? The pyramids. We could explain that a lot. She only saw one, right? That could be explained as a B-17 bomber, right?
Neal Girandola (35:28)
Yeah. Yeah, but you only saw one. She only saw one.
Okay, but
not 1000 feet on each side of the thing 1000 feet outside. Five stories. Well, I mean, you could if something if she says how many stories. But how many stories high did she say it was? Alright, so I mean, you if I saw something in the sky other than a plane or a ship, and I
Android (35:40)
Well, you know, this is someone. How do you know? mean, what is she a geometry teacher? I'm looking at this and declaring by the angle.
30 stories.
Neal Girandola (36:00)
and it looked like a building in the air. I would be able to decipher that. I would be able to say that's odd. That's yeah, but she's, but she's saying that she saw that she could tell it was 30 stories high. And then also she, she is saying that it's a thousand feet on each side. She was only 200 feet away from it. Yes. You think Karen, you think crazy Karen Kaz had a drinking problem?
Android (36:06)
You're seeing the underside of it, mostly.
I have a question.
I have a question for you. If
you saw this ship in your backyard, okay, and I asked you, what did you see? You're going be like, dude, I don't know what it was, but it was a huge fucking ship. It was huge. That's all you would say. You wouldn't be like, that's approximately a look like.
Neal Girandola (36:31)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't. I
wouldn't be able to give you a feed. I wouldn't say feed or anything. Yeah, I wouldn't explain it that way. Right? Yeah. I certainly I certainly wouldn't use the term stories. I wouldn't say it's 30 stories tall. You know, I wouldn't say that. That's not.
Android (36:43)
You're like, what are you going to pull your map up? You're going to pull your map up and you're going to have this. And this is one inch. So that's one inch and that equals a hundred miles.
Neal Girandola (37:03)
That's not how you explain that. But I don't know what Kaz did for a living. Do we know? Besides cause problems. She's probably on every committee in town.
Android (37:11)
playing.
playing and
I gotta tell you what, the garbage situation in this town is awful. And if we don't do something about it, the aliens are gonna come.
Neal Girandola (37:19)
look a UFO we
have to do something about the UFOs
Android (37:26)
Okay. So now it's my time to, that's the story. That's everything.
Neal Girandola (37:31)
All right, that's great.
Okay, I love wait, I loved all the details you shared. This is really cool. ⁓ And it definitely is influencing me in a bit because I'm actually not hearing from you anything that's sort
giving the her story discrediting her the story so much. So anyway, so ⁓ god. Alright, so, ⁓ Andrew, is this a mostly true alien story or not? Based on this information?
Android (37:47)
No, not yet.
Are we going there already? Before
I try to give my debunking? No, that's all for the story. Now it's time to give what I found.
Neal Girandola (37:58)
I know you said that's it. thought you said that's all you had.
Well, yeah, so now I'm
handing over to this portion of you now are going to weigh in on whether you think is mostly true alien story or not and why.
Android (38:07)
I'm going to weigh in on it. Okay.
Okay. Um, you could explain the ship away by saying that it's a B 17 bomber because they're huge, right? And they're triangle shaped in the bottom. Okay. You could explain away the red and green barrels as possibly drop zone
Neal Girandola (38:16)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Android (38:26)
right. If they were doing an exercise, let me finish. Let me finish. Um,
Neal Girandola (38:28)
Okay. All right. I'm Yeah, I'm not. Yep.
Android (38:30)
In high stress situations, we have been known to move slower, like your mind isn't doing because you've got adrenaline going and everything. So everything seems to be moving at a slower pace, right? And that could have been why she felt frozen because she had never seen anything like this before.
Neal Girandola (38:35)
Sure, right. Yes, right.
Well, that
was my question if she explained it that way, like frozen out of fear kind of thing. That's what does that to you. Yeah, go ahead.
Android (38:50)
Yes. ⁓
Apache helicopters radar that they use have been known to kill cell phones if they're close enough. Yep. Yep. OK. The explosions, the MOD said that there was an ammunition explosion ⁓ that happened nearby. Possibly.
Neal Girandola (38:58)
⁓ they- ⁓ really? Okay. I didn't know that. Okay.
Maybe there was an accident.
Android (39:16)
weird though is that Kaz actually shows symptoms of radiation poisoning, her hair, the issues that she still suffers with, with her nervous system. She got tested. Yeah, she went to the testing and they said that she had radiation poisoning. Also, they say that there's still high levels of radiation in that area that took three years to disappear from 2016 to 2019.
Neal Girandola (39:25)
Did she get tested and have radiation poisoning and had radiation poisoning?
from 2016 huh?
okay
Android (39:40)
I'm ready to weigh in.
Neal Girandola (39:40)
Okay, but do you think this is a mostly true alien story or not?
Android (39:43)
I think this is a mostly true alien story.
Neal Girandola (39:48)
what? Wait, you why? What do you think is alien about it?
Android (39:50)
Now.
well, this fricking ship that we don't know what it was, right? I don't necessarily believe that it's aliens or extraterrestrials in this ship. I do believe there is a major, major government cover up with this thing. I think that this possibly could be a ship that they have that has some sort of cloaking device on it, which we had talked about and seen and we've discussed. ⁓ The way she described it emerging out of the clouds means like it just appeared out of nowhere.
Neal Girandola (40:03)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Android (40:22)
And then it just
disappeared, right? So it's like cloak. ⁓
Neal Girandola (40:25)
Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. What what what brought
her outside to actually see that
Why did she come out? Two in the morning.
Android (40:33)
She didn't explain why she went out. I don't know what
her and Dave were doing. She was probably getting ready for the next day. She's like, these coupons they sent me were expired. I'm going to be the first one down at the Walmart here in Wales, and I'm going to tell them this is disgusting that they sent these coupons that are expired.
Neal Girandola (40:39)
We're doing.
I want to be first online.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
They're gonna hear from me. you betcha.
Android (40:58)
gonna
get it you're gonna get it Walmart no ⁓ our show today is sponsored by Walmart and you better you better subscribe to Vodafone or we'll get you
Neal Girandola (41:02)
Alright, that's right and Vodafone. Yeah.
Alright, so you're you don't think this is a mostly true. I know you think this is a mostly true. You think this is a mostly true aliens. Very Wow.
Android (41:17)
I do think it's a mostly true alien story. Yeah. I love this story.
mean, dude, I, I can't tell you the amount of hours I spent on this thing, trying to really find a way to debunk it. Cause that's like my favorite thing in the world is to debunk. ⁓ and so far my track record has been pretty good. I've even got you to go. No, no, not a real alien story. This is definitely a mostly true alien story.
Neal Girandola (41:30)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm hmm. That's true.
Okay.
Android (41:42)
alien in nature, not necessarily alien extraterrestrial, but whatever it was, whatever kind of ship was there was something that it's like something I've never seen
Neal Girandola (41:47)
Right. Tech, tech of some sort.
right. So you think it is a mostly true alien story and that wowzers that you we've never got a 100 % from you and now it is my turn to weigh in and based on all the information that you shared today, I found that all of it very, very interesting. But I also look at what you were sharing.
Android (41:57)
Yeah, 100%. I'm going with a 100%.
Neal Girandola (42:16)
and putting myself in the position of the government and saying, well, if we F up, if we screwed up on something and an explosion happened and it caused radiation and it did all of these things, we got to cover it up. And so that's why I think there was a lot of denials and story changes and things like
happened in the area in the, in the town.
I, I also don't, I, I had, didn't hear anything to me that would make me think that this was an alien.
Encounter. So I am saying that this is not a mostly true alien story based on the information that you shared, because I just think it's a government cover up.
⁓ of an accident that they, ⁓ went through working with some technology maybe, or doing some sort of training. They didn't, they didn't let the town know they were doing this, this, this training. Something got out of control and crashed and I don't think it was alien. So I think it was our, their own tech, their own issue, ⁓ happened during some training, ⁓ situation and caused all of these issues and Kaz, Karen Kaz, the alcoholic.
⁓ was a neighbor, Dave. She's not, she's probably not, probably not a drunk, but
Android (43:33)
That's me, dude. You don't know she's a drunk. Come on.
No, she's
a very nice lady. Hold on. Hello? Yes, I'm right here. Hello?
Neal Girandola (43:42)
Oh, you ever on the phone? Oh, hey, guys.
Hey, guys. We were just talking about you. I was it wasn't awful. It wasn't awful. Alright, so anyway, so but I want to talk to your manager.
Android (43:47)
Yes, I heard those awful things you said about me. You son of a bitch. I'm not a Karen. You're a Karen, you bitch. ⁓
Neal Girandola (43:59)
But no. Stupid show no one listens
Android (43:59)
Who runs this silly station?
Neal Girandola (44:04)
so I do not think this is a mostly true alien story. just based on that information wasn't enough for me to say that this was it was only one person Kaz saw this and really neighbor. They didn't see the materialization. They didn't see the interdimensional stuff. They didn't see that they didn't see the red little globe things that came up to her. They didn't see any of that stuff. So I'm ⁓ I don't
Android (44:07)
well.
No, there were other people that saw it. were...
What about the guy that
drove through the crystals, the broken crystals on the road?
Neal Girandola (44:31)
is these three can unknown campers with no names that somehow came to Kaz same how came to Kaz I just don't I'm not buying it I mean we got disclosure meetings about to happen and Congress in about six minutes
Android (44:35)
my gosh. You sound like me, dude. What's happened?
That's all you care about. You just want to turn your TV
on and sit back, put your overalls on, get a bowl of chili.
Neal Girandola (44:50)
You
know what? When all of this breaks, when it all, when they, when they finish this hearing, they go, yes, we have to tell you. And this is what I want to hear is yes, we have aliens. We have the, we have ships, we have technology. We're going to show them to you. We're going to do this. We're to do that. And Ben Turk was a ship. Yeah. We want to start off with that. If they like say all of this, yeah. But that's what I want. I want to hear this is really down and dirty stuff. Like, yes, they Congress, Congress finally says, you know what?
Android (45:03)
And Penturk was a ship that got away.
So Neal Girandola, if you're listening.
Okay, you know like they're gonna hear that
Neal Girandola (45:19)
You're right. We're going to tell everybody everything. Get ready. Everyone. Life will not be the same. That's when I will turn to this story and go. I was wrong. Mostly true, but it's not. This story is not a mostly true alien story.
Android (45:33)
So if they
reveal today that they have alien tech, you're going to be like, you're going to, we're going to do a recap of this and you're going to say it was an alien ship.
Neal Girandola (45:40)
I still don't, I still wouldn't do a recap on this unless
they came out. The government finally comes out. Well, we have to disclose this. This was alien. Then I'll be like, yeah, okay. Yeah. When they're to come out, what if all these stories are just, they're all true. Everything's true. Everything's true. All right. So we've got Kaz Karen Kaz Clark saying this was an alien counter and military denials. We've got blocked FOIA requests and residents who say they know what they saw.
You heard Andrew, he says it is a mostly true alien story. This has never happened in the life.
Android (46:13)
Yeah. Not necessarily, not necessarily
extraterrestrial though. Alien in nature. That's what I'm saying. True alien story, right?
Neal Girandola (46:21)
Okay, still, still it is a mostly true alien story as far as Andrew's concerned. And I
am saying it is not a mostly true alien story. This has never happened in the history of mostly true alien
now we do want to hear from you guys. What do you think? Is this a mostly true
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see you on the next show. Till then,
be kind to the aliens when they get here. Thanks, Andrew.
Android (47:00)
Thanks, Neal. Bye.
Neal Girandola (47:02)
I'm gonna go watch this hearing.
Android (47:04)
Hey, I have an idea. If we actually, if they come out and they say, yes, there's aliens and all that, we'll just change the name to more true alien stories. More true. Like, and then we'll decide which story is like more true than the other story.
Neal Girandola (47:12)
Really true. Really true alien stories. Or more true.
⁓ the truer,
the truest alien story out there. I got it. I love it. All right, we'll see ya. All right, man, bye.
Android (47:26)
All right, thanks buddy. Bye.