Neal Girandola (00:00)
March 2025, a metallic spheres film streaking through the skies of Columbia gliding not falling before it lands in the brush outside a rural hillside
Within hours, the footage is viral. Within days, the object is in Mexico
within weeks it's on stage at what looked less like a press conference and more like a Netflix premiere backlit.
spinning, framed by politicians,
the biggest names in UFO
It's the
Was this the discovery of the
or the most elaborate piece of UFO theater ever staged in Latin
you
get into
to another episode of Mostly True
Alien Stories.
Neal Girandola (00:56)
Welcome back to Mostly True Alien Stories. It's the show where we take a true report of an alien encounter every week and we lay out the facts and then decide whether it's mostly true or
I'm Neal Girandola and of course alongside with me is my co-host from Another
brother from Another Mother
Andrew Triana. Hi, Andrew.
Android (01:17)
Hey Neal, good morning.
Neal Girandola (01:19)
It's good to see you. Hey, listen, before we get go, make sure you're subscribed on YouTube and wherever you get your podcast so you don't miss an episode. And if you like what we're doing, connect with us on TikTok at mostly true
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I can't wait to get into today's
or report, which is
Android (01:38)
What? Buga Sphere?
Neal Girandola (01:38)
I am between
the Buga Sphere that everybody has been talking about every year, unless you're from another planet. And Columbia, that's right. It happened there. But you know what? Since our last, episode, we were talking about the, UAP
Android (01:42)
⁓ In Colombia
Neal Girandola (01:55)
and what was going to come from that. And we're not going to get into, I don't want to get into too much details on it
Android (02:00)
told me to prepare dude, I I did a whole book. I am Yeah, I have a whole report
Neal Girandola (02:02)
Yeah, I did. my gosh, look, you did a report.
Wow. We'll do that another
Android (02:10)
like three I would three hours I think probably to get through it all so
Neal Girandola (02:10)
What I really, yeah.
one of my favorite takeaways though, from the UAP hearing was the, uh, video that, uh, uh, Congressman Eric Burlson shared of
Tic Tac UFO that was filmed and fi and flying and they shot a hell fire, uh, missile at
it literally, uh, hit it and just deflected. The missile went off.
and it looked like the tic tac just continued on. ⁓ fact, I don't did you see that video?
Android (02:37)
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw the video. Was it the missile that broke into like three pieces or was it the tic tac or it was hard to tell,
Neal Girandola (02:44)
So I, I, I felt,
I know that
I think the missile hit and went off and then
they cut to was the tic tac looked like it was in three parts and still going.
Android (02:55)
Yeah,
still going. Was that edited? Was that? I mean, it's hard to tell. It's hard to tell.
Neal Girandola (02:59)
I don't you know what I
I don't know but it was kind of something that you know I think that what happened a year ago and he's just sharing that he was sharing that last week for the first time no one saw it
Android (03:08)
Right. Well, I had seen that.
Really? I thought I had seen that video before.
Neal Girandola (03:14)
Not that one. That one had not been out at all. Even Ross Coulthart was like, Whoa, that's
if he hadn't seen it.
Android (03:21)
but do
we know that that's what it was? Do we know that it wasn't you know, skeet shooting?
Neal Girandola (03:28)
have been a skeet
could have been burleson
Android (03:29)
I mean,
right. He could have been flying something. He'd been like, watch this. I'm going shoot this projectile
It was just odd. And it wasn't really clear. I mean, once the missile bounced off, didn't, it was like, you know, they were still had the target thing on it, but then it looked like you said, there were like three smaller pieces that were flying off by itself.
Neal Girandola (03:46)
It looked like a... yeah.
also very hard to tell. Like there's no explanation
of it. Here's the size of it. This is what you're looking at. This is, you know, 300 feet, you know, of a ship sort of thing. And, you know, when you get hit, if something that size gets hit by a Hellfire missile, it will disintegrate. You know, there was sort of been... he should have been explaining it throughout. Yeah.
Android (04:08)
All right.
No, but he didn't just like, never explained anything. Did
we learn anything else? Let's wait at the disclosure hearing. there any disclosure? It's a, Hey, ⁓ I got a video here. Watch this. No, no, no, not that video. That's my daughter's birthday party. It's not that one. It's the other one. Yeah. Play that one.
Neal Girandola (04:16)
We did.
Any disclosure? Yeah, right.
We heard...
Android (04:31)
Okay, watch this. That is
a hell fire missile. just launched that thing and you can see it hit it and it just bounce right off. That was great.
Neal Girandola (04:37)
Yeah. ⁓
I would think that a video like that could be easily
Yeah, could be AI'd easily. Because it's not clear. It's not close enough. I'm looking at a gnat on your camera.
Android (04:46)
Manipulated? of course. Yeah. I'm not even here.
Neal Girandola (04:54)
I'm not saying it's not true. I'm saying that it was I didn't know what I was looking at, so to speak.
Android (04:59)
And you're telling me what to look at because they put the little cursor on
look, AI can do anything. I mean, I'm AI. I'm not even here today. I'm camping.
Neal Girandola (05:07)
What platform are you using? Cause it's really good. Cause this AI guys is dumb as the real guy. You know what else too? Did you see this other video that was in, that's been going viral on tick tock?
Android (05:07)
me, right? I can't tell you. It's secret.
Neal Girandola (05:24)
some guy and I think it's Mexico. I don't know where he is, but, ⁓ a
⁓ a meteorite
lands in his backyard just recently right something like this and from it is a small rock about the size of like you know like i don't know an inch or two yeah half a dollar and he takes this thing in and he brings it in because it looked interesting and he puts it on a
Android (05:41)
half a dollar, half dollar, or dollar right.
Right.
Neal Girandola (05:49)
and he's handling it with his bare hands and then he and then
Android (05:51)
Of course, because that's what you do.
Neal Girandola (05:53)
Right. But in the videos he's showing us, so, this is something special. Let me show you when he takes a
and he puts the leaf on top of this little rock that he found that came from meteorite and the leaf immediately like burns, like it, like it Browns up and you know, that's the question. So then, but then
Android (06:06)
How did it not burn his hand?
Neal Girandola (06:11)
a couple of another video he's showing that there he puts it on a plate. It's like a small saucer and he has, he has a, it's almost like a
You know the cake, the cake ⁓ dishes you give you with a glass cover, you know, the glass, it's like that. It's like a mini cake glass cover that display. Yeah. And so he puts the rock on that thing and then he covers it. Right. And then he takes some medical tape or something and tapes it shut. So it doesn't, doesn't, I don't know why, but then eventually. And then in another video, another video, then you see,
Android (06:25)
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. Display, right, we'll just call it, okay, cover.
That's to hold the heat inside, to hold the heat inside.
Right, another edited time,
Neal Girandola (06:50)
see an
you see this thing growing from it and it's like wiggling. It looks like worms. It looks like floppy, like alien, the beginning of an alien for me. And then some sort of life. And then, ⁓ apparently he says that it appears to grow from the sun. Like if it's in the sun, it's growing quicker. then next thing you know, you see another video and it's his size. It's now the size of
Android (06:54)
Yeah. Yeah.
Right. Or life, some sort of life.
Neal Girandola (07:18)
cake.
Android (07:18)
football field.
Neal Girandola (07:19)
the cake you know
not a football field but the cake cover
it's the size of that
Android (07:23)
Right. Does he put his
puts his hand in it.
Neal Girandola (07:26)
So he's been handling it all the time. Now he's wearing gloves. Now all of sudden he's wearing a glove, you know, but like one glove on one hand and then the other one now, but he keeps grabbing it both hands, you know, that kind of shit. But anyway, the thing is like flopping around doing shit and it keeps it in the thing. And then he shows another
You know, at first you're looking at this, you're going, that's pretty cool. Whatever he's doing. That's very well done. That's well done. That's, that's a good job. And then the next video he shows,
is where I was like, this is where I think you messed up my friend because
He has it on a
he has it on like, he's like in a messy room. Like it's in his bedroom or something. I don't know. It's like, it's on a shelf. It's got coins laying around. You know what I mean? Like stuff just thrown on, you know, the yeah, something along those lines, but the shelf itself is like this wooden shelf and it's got the dishes there. The lid of the, the, the dish is sort of, it's, it's, it looks, he, he was trying to make it look like it was pushed off.
Android (07:56)
Right.
Right, that's in his mom's basement. He's in his mom's basement, right?
melted.
Neal Girandola (08:22)
like it's laying off halfway off the plate. And so that the thing is not there. But in the shadow of the shelf from
Android (08:25)
Right? Okay.
Neal Girandola (08:32)
see hit you see this now black creature thing, sort of all of sudden go like this as he gets closer, it
sort of like reaches out to the You know, but it almost looked like it was a puppet. Like it was almost like it like plop
you know, and
Android (08:48)
I didn't see
that part of the video. That's a shame. no, I saw the beginning when the guy was like, I found this in my yard.
Neal Girandola (08:50)
You haven't seen this video?
Yeah, yeah, but all in Spanish. I had no idea what he ⁓ yeah, see, see, well, he got off his one me, but again, and he's handling the
Android (08:59)
Right.
reminds me of an old
show Stephen King's creep show where he finds the meteor and he's the country
Neal Girandola (09:09)
Yeah, yeah.
Android (09:14)
And he breaks it and the green goo comes out and he touches it and he touches his face and then grass starts growing on him. And he turns into this huge like grass thing and he ends up shooting himself at the end. And then the last scene is like, this grass has just grown everywhere. That's what it reminds me
Neal Girandola (09:18)
I... kind of remember that.
It's gone very viral and people are sharing it and talking about people in this, this circle, the, the, peers that we, you know, do different things or people are talking
This is, think as far as I'll go with this one, because it is definitely not a mostly true alien
mean, you the thing is the government would have already been there. The government would be on the door going, yeah. I mean, some, some
Android (09:47)
Right.
Neal Girandola (09:51)
thing came from space and landed in your yard is now grown. It's the government government. We're here. We're here to see where we were here to take your alien.
And plus, you wouldn't be able to handle it if the leaf is burning. When you put it on
just it's just odd to me.
Android (10:07)
It wasn't hot then.
It wasn't hot then. And if it's that hot to burn a leaf, wouldn't it burn through the plate?
Neal Girandola (10:13)
Yeah, would burn everything. I just feel like.
Android (10:15)
like alien blood just burn right through his house into the ground. Except the shelving in his mom's basement, didn't burn through that.
Neal Girandola (10:17)
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, if you haven't
Yeah. Doesn't, doesn't.
Android (10:26)
Yeah, no, that's not mostly true.
Neal Girandola (10:29)
I'll keep an eye on it. It's fun. It's actually fun as we're leading up to Halloween. I think it's fun. I'm hoping like by Halloween. It's this he's been eaten. You know what mean? Like he makes the next video. Yeah. He's turned into this. Yes. Yes. It's like Little Shop. It's exactly that. Little Shop. Little Shop. Little Shop. My heart is Little Shop.
Android (10:31)
Yeah, keep watching it!
Right, he's part of the plant. Like Little Shop.
Audrey.
Neal Girandola (10:51)
Yeah, he's gonna have background singers by October, you know ⁓
Android (10:51)
Yeah.
Yeah, well, they're all going to be eaten as well, but they'll be singing as grass because that's what's growing. And then the little
black alien thing will be the lead. That'll be like Audrey too. It's going to be fantastic.
Neal Girandola (11:05)
All right. Well, let's get into our our case today. Our true report of an alien encounter. This one's on another
We are going to be diving into what we're calling the Buga sphere encounter. It's the metallic orb. It has was filmed in Colombia that made its way to Mexico City and then to the labs at UNAM. And then it did not, but it probably could have. And it is
Android (11:26)
Did it fly to Mexico City?
Right.
Neal Girandola (11:32)
It also made the biggest UFO press conference of the year. So let's get into it. Andrew, what do you say?
Android (11:39)
Let's do this.
Neal Girandola (11:40)
do
here we go. In early 2025, March, I think just outside the Colombian city of Booga in Vallee del Cacao,
two men David Velez El Portro and Jose Arias. How do you say that? Arieis
Is that how you say it? Arieis Estrepo. They recorded something
Android (11:57)
I really just struggle, see.
Neal Girandola (12:01)
According to their video, which we've all seen,
the men witnessed a metallic sphere in flight.
gliding across the sky before it came down hard and lodged itself in a patch of brush on the
Android (12:11)
Thank
Neal Girandola (12:13)
footage, now widely circulated, shows the moment they closed in, the object resting in the undergrowth, half buried, catching the light in a way that looked almost, I don't know, deliberate in a way.
yeah, was well shot. Uh-huh.
Android (12:26)
Very nice cinematography. Amazing cinematography. Well
Neal Girandola (12:30)
Booga itself is
no stranger to stories that attract attention. A city of about 120,000 residents, it is known across Columbia as a site of pilgrimage and folklore surrounded by farmland, sugar cane fields, and low rolling mountains. This wasn't the kind of place you'd expect to see something high tech streaking through the
And as
Velez and Arias, locals with a reputation as treasure hunters and adventurers, were out on the hills that day searching for artifacts and valuables when they stumbled upon the spear.
voices, you can hear them on camera. It's a mix of surprise and
them tugging it free from the brush. I think it was Jose pulling it.
The sphere itself appeared almost unnaturally perfect. It was a smooth mirror. It's a smooth mirror like orb about the size of a basketball with faint geometric, ridging etched across
Android (13:12)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (13:24)
it's surface,
all talked about and tried to
Now once recovered, the men brought the object to Jaime Masan. He's the Mexican journalist and UFOlogist known for championing controversial UFO cases.
Android (13:34)
I love that guy.
Neal Girandola (13:38)
Amazon quickly branded it la esfera de
Is that how say it?
Android (13:44)
which translates to the Buga Sphere. La Espera de Booga. La Espera de Booga. Así. Me llamo Jaime Musant. Esto es La Espera de Booga. He said it's the Buga Sphere. Thank you.
Neal Girandola (13:46)
the- the boogasphere and placed it yep thank you thank you yes right now that heime has it
Ha ha ha ha!
Yes, we have our we have our interpreter here today. Andrew.
Android (14:09)
Thanks, Jaime.
Buenos dias. Damas y
caballeros, buenos dias.
Neal Girandola (14:19)
Alright, now I want you to translate everything into Spanish for me, okay? As I go along. according to Mausson... Wait, it sounded the same! Yes? You have quite a talent. Alright, according to Mausson, preliminary testing suggested the sphere was non-ferromagnetic.
Android (14:24)
Okay. I didn't go into my song.
It's weird, right? People just put a Spanish accent on it, sounds like Spanish, right? I don't even have to speak Spanish to make it sound like Spanish. Keep going, let's try this, keep going, let's try it.
According to Meson, the spear was known to hide many as many spears.
Neal Girandola (14:53)
Alright enough alright Alright preliminary testing suggests his Sphere was non-ferromagnetic usually dense unusually dense and possibly anomalous at the isotopic level
Under ultraviolet and infrared light photographs show it reflecting with a faint unnatural glow
However as reported by multiple outlets no peer reviewed or independent lab results have been released
What has been confirmed is that the sphere was transferred to UNAM, the National Autonomous University of Mexico for
and reports state that researchers there conducted material analysis and spectral
by June of 2025, the Buga Sphere was unveiled to the public at a conference in Mexico
it was displayed live to an audience of researchers, journalists and
South American and US investigators,
each offered
It's important to note that the boogasphere does not stand alone. There's been reports of mysterious metallic spheres that stretch back decades
from Eastern Europe to Southern South America and most famously the 1974 Bettsphere incident in Florida.
where a family claimed a similar or demonstrated strange physical behaviors inside their home.
despite the attention, the Colombian government has not stepped in. According to the reporting available, the object remains unclaimed by any official
and is still in the possession of Jaime Mausson and his investigative circle. Critics argue it could be an exotic industrial relic and abandoned aerospace component or even an elaborate
hoax. Believers on the other hand point to its geometry, the circumstances of its discovery, and the ongoing secrecy around its testing as signs that it may represent technology, not of human origin.
So as it stands today, the Buga sphere remains in limbo,
so to speak, studied, speculated on but not completely explained. According to the reports, it is unclaimed, unverified and undeniably
provocative. And that's the report as I have
but as always, that's just the surface and we're going to dive a little deeper because behind every detail, there are connections, there's contradictions and questions that deserve a closer look, Andrew. So now I'm going to hand it over to
and you're going to weigh in on whether you think this is a mostly true alien story or not. And I'm sure you've done the deep dive.
into this and found pieces that might change how we see this
Android (17:25)
haven't done anything. ⁓
Neal Girandola (17:27)
Okay, we're
gonna end this show here.
is the Buga Sphere Andrew
that encounter a mostly true alien story or not?
Android (17:35)
Yeah, so this ⁓ is a fascinating one. You had mentioned ⁓ David Velez and Jose being the first people
Neal Girandola (17:41)
Yes. Mm hmm.
Android (17:45)
report it, right? Okay, so let's do a little background on.
Neal Girandola (17:45)
Go ahead. Yeah. Well, they're
not the first ones to report the ones that found it basically. Yeah. So it came across their desk.
Android (17:51)
the founded right right but it's funny because no
no people but it could find no names of people that were like I saw it in the sky I saw it in the sky there's just a video of it in the sky we don't know who made this video
Neal Girandola (18:05)
it is kind of unclear. ⁓ I was assuming, and I think everyone was assuming that it was a, both of them were sharing their time videotaping this, right? Because now in follow up videos, you see the two of them going off. There's one other guy that's involved. think that works alongside of, ⁓ David L. Portrow, but, I'm not sure if he was
Android (18:15)
Alright.
Neal Girandola (18:29)
There might have been a third guy there filming, but I don't know. Those are the names that we have. These are the two guys that were in the videos. ⁓ so, you know, that's all we know.
Android (18:33)
Right, Yep.
not sure, folks, if you've seen the videos, if you're listening, you should check out the videos. There are like two distinct videos. There's one video of it descending,
slowly descending. And then the next video is already on the ground. So there's no video of it like, did the guy not video it going all the way down to the ground? I guess
It got caught behind the trees. cannot see the, the spears no more. Please go, go David, go, go, go. So David Veles, he works for a company called Germany. And you had mentioned them that he and Jose, right? Just a farm guy. We're out there just treasure hunting, right? And doing adventure things, right? And what's interesting is that the company that David works
Neal Girandola (18:58)
Uh-huh. That's right.
Okay.
Right? Yeah.
Android (19:19)
they specialize in an electromagnetic detection systems.
Neal Girandola (19:22)
would that
Android (19:23)
same
kind of technology that they think is in the book
So is the is the
Neal Girandola (19:26)
Okay. All right. I see where you're saying I see where you're going.
let's just clarify that the electromagnetic like that kind of company they locate they locate metals, the hydrocarbons, they use it for archaeology. So maybe it's not uncommon if you're a treasure hunter, you have a company that does this your treasure hunter that maybe you find something like that. But I see I know what you're saying, because in other outer reports, we didn't mention in my report, but what we did slightly, it does have an electro
Android (19:37)
Right, right. Yeah, they do all kinds of stuff like that, right? Right. Right. Right.
Neal Girandola (19:56)
magnetic sort of, yeah, sort of, yeah, sort of core ⁓ of this thing.
Android (19:56)
magnetic shield or presence something right right
Neal Girandola (20:03)
so what you're kind of leaning into is that he would know the technology enough to maybe you're saying rebuild it or that kind of, that kind of thing. So, so you build something that would react to, to, those things. Yeah. Okay.
Android (20:06)
Yeah.
I would hope so. That's what his company does. Unless he, right. Unless he just works as a janitor there.
Neal Girandola (20:19)
I'm gonna own a company but I wanna be the Jatter.
Android (20:21)
I'm going to show everyone that I am just a regular guy. Clean the toilets.
Neal Girandola (20:24)
you
Android (20:27)
with me. I don't want clean the toilets, Jose. I'm your boss. I own the company, but I will help you. Here's the cleaner. No. ⁓ so here's the funny thing. You didn't even call Colombian authorities when they found this Sphere. Instead, they held onto it. And then they called Jaime
Neal Girandola (20:41)
Right. Okay.
Android (20:47)
That was the first person they called.
Neal Girandola (20:46)
Yeah, well, so
but they did the videos to write. So they did the videos, they put those out. And that's how does that how Jaime and them got connected? How did that happen?
Android (20:51)
Posted videos with
There's no real thing. They, Jaime reached out to them and said, Hey, I heard you got a sphere. You heard that. Right. We'll get into Jaime.
Neal Girandola (21:04)
Yeah. We'll get in. I guess we'll get in behind me, Yeah. ⁓
Android (21:09)
Okay. So they don't keep it in Columbia. They immediately, I guess, loaded on the truck because the thing can't fly anymore. Right. They said that the sphere was cold to touch when they touched it. And then it warmed, but they could.
Neal Girandola (21:22)
Yeah.
didn't Jose
didn't they say Jose got sick from handling it or something
Android (21:31)
Let see. Let me check my other notes. Hold on here.
Neal Girandola (21:32)
Is that clear?
Android (21:35)
but the main thing that they showed was ⁓ they told the masan was that it's it's definitely a non-human device. We've never seen anything like this before.
Neal Girandola (21:35)
And it was.
Yeah, okay.
but let's just say let's just say and we haven't we're obviously not waiting. Let's just say you're you and I are out in the woods. We're treasure hunting and we see this thing fly across the sky. I know. But how weird would that be? Right? That would be really shocking. Like, it would be like, all right, I would think immediately that someone's flying
Android (21:50)
Right.
That's what we do every weekend. Why are you telling people what we do?
Neal Girandola (22:05)
So I'm just, I'm just saying this as I'm thinking this out loud
one in a million that you're going to come across that in the, in these
Android (22:10)
Right.
Neal Girandola (22:13)
when you are a treasure hunter, that something's going to fly, literally fly into your hands and that technology. then within 48 to 72 hours, you're in touch with the one
Android (22:18)
Right.
Neal Girandola (22:25)
can
know, that has.
You have a connection to this guy, Jaime Mausson that you can get in touch with.
Android (22:31)
Well, right. Well, they probably had to look for him, right? Or Jaime saw the videos or whatever. But, you know, when you dig into Jaime Mausson, there's a lot of stuff. So I'm going to go ahead and dig into Jaime Mausson for you. ⁓ Jaime Mausson was born in Mexico City in 1953, and he happened to study journalism at
Neal Girandola (22:44)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So.
Yeah.
Okay.
Android (22:55)
The Sphere, right.
Neal Girandola (22:54)
you know where he took the sphere, they took this for
Android (22:57)
He's
also a big donation. He gives a lot of donations to to you now just to let you know that I don't want I don't want that to sway you anyway. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's great. Well, no, it's good because I think it's great. He graduated from there. He's been successful. He should give back to where it you know, where it all started. I guess you could say right.
Neal Girandola (23:03)
It does.
Well, no, I think the money trail's important.
Yeah. And, UNEM, and UNEM
has gotten a lot of attention from not only this sphere, but his other stuff that he's brought to them, right?
Android (23:25)
⁓
yeah. So he was a he was just to give you a little bit media background. He was a host and producer of Tercer Melinio, which was a long running TV show for him. He has a big reputation for covering aerial phenomenons, alien bodies, strange artifacts. mean, he was involved with the Nazca mummies, the Peruvian things, right? And let's face it.
Neal Girandola (23:36)
Okay.
Okay. Yes, right, right. That turned out to be fake, right?
Android (23:51)
they did.
Neal Girandola (23:52)
Yeah,
I didn't mean to ruin the end for you, that ended up being fake. Yeah. Well, he dies. Walter dies.
Android (23:55)
Are you?
That's like if you ruin the end of Breaking Bad for me. I've never seen it.
We'll edit that out listeners if you haven't watched Breaking Bad Walter White might live at the end of Breaking Bad. We don't know we're not gonna say but he dies. If you haven't watched it, if you haven't watched it by now, too bad. Shame on you. Everybody.
Neal Girandola (24:15)
So he's a sensationalist. Yeah, I forgot it. Everybody, everybody dies. All right. So, uh,
but, so you're saying like, Jaime's a sensationalist. He, he, but he's in that alien world, which
funny that he comes into hand. He comes in to handle the sphere after all of these other highlight these, all these other big headline, uh, alien things.
Android (24:30)
Well, dude, if this is really a- ⁓
Well, the government didn't even get involved.
What have you ever heard of a government not getting involved in something like this? This sphere that supposedly thousands of people saw in the sky, it lands. They didn't chase these guys to get it. Come on. And within 72 hours of them discovering. Yeah. Within 72 hours, it was in Mexico. Within 72 hours, that's fast,
Neal Girandola (24:44)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Okay. Well, you're not weighing in yet. Are you weighing? We got more to talk about your weighing in.
Okay, all right. Yeah, that's pretty quick. Right, right.
Android (25:02)
but I'm guessing it didn't fly there.
Neal Girandola (25:02)
Yeah.
No, must've, they must've drove it there. Yeah.
Android (25:04)
I guess it just loaded it in a truck ⁓
or in the back of a minivan is what I'm guessing.
the sphere, when they first picked up the sphere, they said it weighed about two kilograms.
Neal Girandola (25:17)
Okay.
Android (25:17)
the longer it stayed present here on Earth or wherever it's from, it got up to 10 kilograms. So the density of this thing increased, which I found really kind of, that's kind of cool.
Neal Girandola (25:21)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
⁓ But,
the, ⁓ whoever was studying it say that, was that from a Jose and David said David, instead of got heavier.
Android (25:34)
That's from Jose and David saying that. When they first found
it, they picked it up, right? And then when they went to pick it up again, it was weighing 10 kilograms instead of 2 kilograms. I guess they weighed it. I don't know. Yeah, they have to. They're going to dig up metal and see how much they found. They find gold. mean, I want to know how much gold they found. Yeah. OK. So what's interesting too is
Neal Girandola (25:45)
treasure hunters maybe they have scales with them
Sure. Yeah, that makes sense. OK.
Android (25:58)
Jaime Mausson. ⁓
Perfect timing to launch a brand new global TV network.
Neal Girandola (26:05)
You know, I did
hear that, that he launched this globe, this network, the what? Mausson television, right? At the same time he was introducing the sphere. So use the sphere as his tent pole in a sense, right? Yeah.
Android (26:18)
Yeah, yeah.
Because once he gets the sphere, Mausson, you know, he takes it immediately to UNAM and ⁓ there's like a fringe group there, I guess, for those of you who are fans of fringe. But it's they do this in Latin America and I guess at UNAM, they have a whole thing where they study UFO artifacts, I guess, because they had the mummies there, right? They had the Aztec mummies, the
Neal Girandola (26:25)
Yeah.
Android (26:46)
the Muzak aliens and Peruvian aliens and all that. That's where they studied them. Where's that U-Name too?
Neal Girandola (26:51)
Yeah, I assume that they'll study anything if you're gonna pay them. Right?
Android (26:54)
Right, right. So we should
give a little history about UNAM. It's actually a really great school. It's the largest university in Central and South America. don't, yeah, great reputation. So I'm not slandering UNAM, UNAM if you're listening. We love it that you educate kids, journalism, all kinds of stuff. It was founded in 1551.
Neal Girandola (27:03)
Yeah, it's got a great reputation. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, that's.
Android (27:16)
That's wild, right? And they focus
on engineering, material sciences, astrophysics. you know, if you want to...
Neal Girandola (27:23)
Yeah, they're the guys to look at this.
Android (27:25)
So the sphere was studied there at the Institute of Applied Sciences.
Neal Girandola (27:30)
that department right those looking at okay I got you
Android (27:32)
Yes, applied sciences and technology.
was led by
Dr. Rudolfo Garido. Right? Yeah, he was there. He was there along with a lot of other people that were there. Right? So
Neal Girandola (27:39)
Yeah, he spoke at the conference. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓
Android (27:47)
found it high frequency electromagnetic
put it under electron microscopy. They x-rayed
Neal Girandola (27:54)
the electromagnetic
high frequency electromagnetic detection tools, ⁓ using that to detect more of that. Okay, go ahead.
Android (27:57)
Earlier. Yeah, yeah, and they detected it right.
They're saying that the outside casing
of this sphere was nickel and titanium alloy.
because they don't want to cut it. They don't want to break it because then they could maybe never get it.
Neal Girandola (28:16)
But is
is that nickel and titanium alloy is that like used commonly? mean, is that not is that not common? What is that uncommon?
Android (28:25)
Well, if it's an alien craft, ⁓ would it be nickel and titanium? Would we be able to know what it is? Because every other alien report that we've done, and they've seen the ship, and they touched it, and they did all that, or they left an artifact, it was always of some material that we had never experienced before or seen before. But they know that this is nickel titanium alloy. They know that.
Neal Girandola (28:44)
Right. But the combo
Yeah, but that
but that and that's just not normally used in conventional manufacturing. Yeah, right. Right. Right. Okay.
Android (28:53)
flying devices, right, not in a flying device. Um,
and it's structured, had wiring inside. Like there was a lattice thing of wires inside. You know, that was weird.
Neal Girandola (29:02)
Yeah, yeah, remember the reports just saying this
Android (29:05)
So yeah, there was a little guy who was like,
Neal Girandola (29:05)
It's like a rat's nest in there.
Yeah.
Shut the There's nothing to see.
Android (29:13)
⁓ Please,
I am going poo poo. Please close the
So they said that when they were doing all these tests on the sphere itself that electromagnetic interference happened, lab devices glitched, signals distorted, research described what they heard was like a silent motor effect. I don't know what that means. Silent motor
Neal Girandola (29:25)
Yeah. Okay.
So they could hear some humming, I
Something like that maybe.
Android (29:37)
Or
they heard.
Hi ho hi ho hi ho.
If you can hear this humming, you're too close.
Neal Girandola (29:50)
Alright, so all of this stuff is being researched by
and Jose they give this thing this to Jaime. Jaime's got a history of all of this ⁓ alien sensationalism that he's been involved in that really was sort of debunked all of that stuff. But he takes it to UNAM where he was a student at one time or he was a journalist. Yeah. And so
Android (30:09)
Yeah. ⁓
Yeah, he majored in journalism. Yeah. Yeah. He's the smart
dude. I mean, he's been very successful in his career. He really has been.
Neal Girandola (30:17)
He's a smart guy. But he's
also a showman is also a showman. he but he also so he has this relationship at UNAM he takes the sphere there this alien tech to them. They're doing studies on it, they find there's different things going on inside they find a structured wiring lattice, they find that there's glitches, there's this electromagnetic interference, there's a little humming noise going in and out of it, it's changed its weight. So here we are.
Android (30:43)
Right, right, right.
Neal Girandola (30:46)
It's got we're up to this point. and not to mention that Jaime Mausson has launched his new network called Mausson television. Right. And so he has this, but now they have all of this information is preliminary information. And then then what happens to he's is he
Android (30:54)
Network. Yep, yep.
So
on April 10th, on April 10th of 2025, ⁓ clips, like video clips of the lab work started airing on Muson Television. He started showing these things. He's like, well, this is proof that this is an intelligent device. We don't know what it's constructed of. The engineering properties are unknown.
Neal Girandola (31:15)
yeah, that's right, that's right. Yeah, all that stuff.
Right.
But it's all coming from Massan. Massan's delivering all this information.
Android (31:29)
Yeah, because this is where it gets
interesting. The UNAM Institute stayed silent. They didn't neither deny nor confirm this stuff, but he said that he had the notes from this. Now, Musan, you know, he had other artifacts at UNAM before than the Nazca mummies, right? He tried that in 2017 and everybody was like, this isn't real. Then the dude brought it back in 2023.
Neal Girandola (31:48)
Right, yeah, right. Okay. Right.
Yeah, I remember this.
Android (31:58)
And he thought,
I guess he made the mannequins better this time.
I found two more aliens. Ooh, they look really detailed.
Neal Girandola (32:02)
Yeah. There are new,
I don't know if this is a NAS, the NAS got mummies, but there are two new mummies that came out that they did do an X-ray, a different study on it. And to be honest with you,
now there's a question of the, validity, like that they could be real, but I don't know if it's the same. And I don't know if Jaime Mausson is involved in that. It's a different
Android (32:27)
Will the reports that
no the reports know the reports that Mausson has put out on that stuff says that the dna is non-human That's all that's been said It could be dog dna You know Or mr chips the monkey or maybe that's where bubbles ended up. Michael jackson's monkey bubbles is down there
Neal Girandola (32:34)
Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah, right. that's true. That missed. What if? What if it is?
What if it is bubbles?
That would change everything. That would change everything for me. Yeah. yeah. Yeah, definitely. If they have said this is bubbles, I would believe it. Yeah.
Android (32:50)
That would.
Would you believe that? Or no? You believe in bubbles?
Okay,
Neal Girandola (33:01)
all right. So he he's putting out the information that we're hearing in the press and seeing in the videos, right? ⁓
Android (33:06)
Right, right. So by the end of April or mid-April,
everything got quiet about it, right? He had reported everything from the lab. He had done all that stuff. Now they're quiet until June
Neal Girandola (33:19)
Okay.
Android (33:22)
Mexico City, the Super Bowl
of UFOs happens.
Neal Girandola (33:28)
Right, this is where he's gonna really tell us what we're seeing and bringing all the big players. ⁓
Android (33:30)
yeah, dude. He has this whole thing, right? So he had
scientists from NASA there. He had ⁓ Carla Estrada, who is a producer for Mexico TV. She talked. She talked about the lights. She had seen lights in the sky before. So she's a UFO expert because she saw lights in the sky.
Neal Girandola (33:39)
Mmm.
Okay.
Android (33:54)
started bringing in all of these people, right? So I had talked about ⁓
the doctor there at UNAM, right? So he's a engineer and a journalist. And ⁓ he talks there, he speaks there about the ⁓ wires and stuff that's ⁓ inside this thing. So when the show opens, there is literally a glass case with the sphere rotating backlit inside.
Neal Girandola (34:02)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Sure, I guess I saw that. It's,
yeah, it's...
Android (34:26)
dude, was beautiful. They had two huge screens on the side that everyone... ⁓ yeah, this was like... If the X-Files were real, right, this would be like their show to premiere everything. So was crazy. They had like aliens that would appear on the side screens and then they would disappear. They had reptilian aliens. They had the greys.
Neal Girandola (34:29)
Yeah.
⁓ well produced.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
That's all that
Android (34:51)
okay.
Neal Girandola (34:51)
if you don't believe
us after this
the lights and whistles are really what's gonna sell this right now
Android (34:56)
Yeah,
so let me tell you who was there. Okay, this is a huge cast of huge cast of characters. All right, so they had Juan Carlos and Germain Valez right? They were the original discoverers, right? Right.
Neal Girandola (34:59)
Yeah, who was there? Yeah. Okay, yeah, go ahead.
So they're the brothers. And that's
who I think won. think Juan Carlos was helping David El Portro. I think he was the third guy there at the at the site when they were treasure hunting along
Jose and Jose was there too, right? He yeah, he ended up
Yes, that's when they gave us his last name. So let's back that up. So yeah, yeah, but I also have it. Yeah, so so that he was there
Android (35:25)
that's right. That's when they finally gave his last name. You're right. You're right. You're Right. Because that's in my original notes. Jose Restrepo. Jose Restrepo. OK.
Neal Girandola (35:37)
Juan Carlos. So we know Juan Carlos.
Android (35:37)
OK. So
one caller's Germain Velez,
Neal Girandola (35:41)
Yeah.
Android (35:41)
They had
a political presence, right? Congressman Sergio Gutierrez Luna and Senator Alejandro Armenta.
USA UFO discovers
right?
Neal Girandola (35:54)
so they
did have the Mexican politicians were there. So yeah, all right, they're sitting there. And then you're saying then we have Stephen Greer, right? Which what is he doing there? ⁓ Sure. Yeah, Congressman. Yeah.
Android (35:57)
Yes. Right. Stephen Greer.
⁓ they invited him, ⁓ Eric Erlison, who we talked about earlier with the right Congressman and
attorney Daniel Sheehan.
Neal Girandola (36:15)
Well, Shan's a big deal in the whole circle. Yeah, right. Right. But he's...
Android (36:17)
Yeah, dude, he goes all the way back to Watergate.
So how old is
that guy? He's got to be like a thousand years old. Maybe he's got alien tech inside. Right? So this thing, dude, it opens with like this huge video montage of everything, right? Lab clips from UNAM, 3D renderings of the structure, right?
Neal Girandola (36:26)
think he was... could be an alien.
I saw it. So crazy.
Android (36:42)
talking points are like, Hey, ⁓ we've got these great things. Everything was like super fantastic. Like literally every talking point that they bring up is about the sphere. How awesome it is. The sphere is real. I mean, they could have repeated that 10,000 freaking times in that thing.
Neal Girandola (36:59)
Yeah, yeah, they're just it's
sort of telling you what we were telling us what we're seeing. And that's interesting. I saw the press conference and but also interesting. If we're starting from the beginning of that press conference where, you know, as you said, they're showing us the video, Maussan speaking, they had some hosts that would bring people up. And then you had David El Portro who came up and it turns out we find out that you know, this is the guy that discovered the the sphere and videotape things.
Android (37:25)
Right.
Neal Girandola (37:26)
turns out he was an he's an opera singer as well. So he's or you know, some sort of performer singer. Yeah, yeah. I'm surprised. I'm surprised they didn't have him sing a little ditty before the whole thing.
Android (37:30)
I found the spear and it's beautiful. I hope you like my voice too. Yeah, exactly. The spear
is lovely. Yeah. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (37:45)
And then Jose comes up and Jose says a few words and he shows some stuff of him getting the sphere out of the shrubs.
They showed all that. So interesting. So really validating this whole thing by doing a press conference, which has never been done before for any, any alien discovery, any report, anything. So, so go on. All right. So really putting on a
Android (37:52)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Right, right.
Neal Girandola (38:06)
up everybody on.
Android (38:06)
So we learn
at this event that there's actually ⁓ three videos, not just two. They had only shared two, but they shared a third video there. Now, what was weird,
there was a guy there called Nacho Rojo. Nacho Rojo. And he came out and he said, the sphere is real. And I'm going to show you why. That talked about how it hovered up and down.
Neal Girandola (38:22)
chill.
⁓ he's the guy. He's the guy. How you
Yeah, how you you couldn't fake it. Right? Right. That guy.
Android (38:36)
Right. He said there's no way, no way
to put a string in it to make it float up and down. And he showed us why it's real and why you couldn't fake
Neal Girandola (38:42)
And he would sh- and he showed us how, why.
It's almost like he we're going to debunk you guys debunking us before you debunk us.
Android (38:50)
right.
You're right.
Right, before you can say, was this pulled up by ropes and stuff? No. Why it's not. We're going to show you why it's not. Right. Okay. Absolutely hilarious. So then they gave other details about the area where the sphere had landed at this press event. They talked about
Neal Girandola (38:58)
Yeah, we're gonna show you why it couldn't have been. Right. Right, I remember this guy.
Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Android (39:14)
the area where the sphere was was
all the water had been, it was dry. Everything was dry. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (39:19)
Huh, I didn't hear that. I didn't hear that, okay.
Android (39:21)
Everything had been, the life basically had been sucked out of.
Neal Girandola (39:24)
Didn't
look like it. I mean from the video we saw of him pulling out of the shrub looked like it was just a jungle of a shrubby area.
Android (39:26)
No, it just looked like...
Yeah, yeah, just grass, just like
grass. Maybe it hadn't rained for a little bit.
now here's something else. Did you know that there were two spheres
They said that another sphere, ⁓ no, another sphere appeared above Yumbo Yumbo, the Yumbo sphere, but we don't have Yumbo sphere. I guess it flew away. I guess they were like, they caught the other, they caught the other ball.
Neal Girandola (39:40)
Well, they didn't collect two spheres, they saw another sphere.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yumbo yumbo the yumbos through right
Right, this is in sequential. This is in happened after the bugosphere. Then all of sudden this the Yumbo sphere or I don't know which happened first, but yes, they're okay. So, that, yeah, that, that, that's pretty interesting. Right. And then, and then they, then all of sudden all the stories of different spheres all over the world. Okay. I got you.
Android (40:02)
Yeah.
No, was Booga Booga first thing, Yuma second. Booga first and Yuma second. Right.
Right, right. Because that's
why Greer was
Greer was there to study the sphere, to look at it, and to talk about 1975 Florida, 1974 in Florida. The Betts family, was that what it was? Ben's family. They found the sphere, right? He came to say they found the sphere in 74, and spheres have appeared all over the world before. So this isn't the first time that we're actually seeing a sphere. Thank you. My name is Stephen Greer.
Neal Girandola (40:23)
Mmm. Mmm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there was a three there.
Well, well, he,
yes, thank you. He also, I have a picture of it. Let me show you my picture. ⁓ you know, he, he, he also, yeah, he also,
Android (40:47)
Right. no, that's Flippy. Sorry.
Neal Girandola (40:51)
sensationalized the con the press conference even more by going on a tick tock to tell everyone that two fake security guards, came in and tried to steal the sphere.
Android (41:01)
steal the spear yeah
Neal Girandola (41:02)
They were fake, but they got caught. And, you know, it was, he was telling me they
Android (41:02)
yeah yeah they hung them I heard they
hung them publicly that was the last video they showed was them executing those fake security guards don't mess with Jaime Musan or Stephen Greer yeah of course that's yeah
Neal Girandola (41:08)
It killed it killed them. my God. Wow. But but do know what I mean? He was adding to the sensationalism of the entire event, which was something odd.
Android (41:23)
You know,
Neal Girandola (41:23)
But anyway.
Android (41:24)
you look at closely, right, who was there, right? So they had Stephen Greer, right? So listeners, if you don't know who Stephen Greer was, he was a former emergency room doctor. And now he's the, would you say he's like the leader of the UFO movement? Disclosure.
Neal Girandola (41:28)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, for sure. mean,
he formed C5. He formed, you know, a couple of groups. He's, ⁓ you know, he calls for the global cooperation and disclosure of all of these alien encounters. I mean, it's big deal. If you don't know me, you know,
Android (41:53)
Right, but you know that Greer
didn't see the people getting arrested, right? Musan told him. He got that information from Musan. So, yeah.
Neal Girandola (42:00)
Yeah, Miss on told him. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
There's a lot of things being told by Miss
yeah, also Burleson he was there. So he's pushing for that government honesty. He's he's even he was a major part of this last UAP hearing. I mean, he listened, I'm not I'm not these guys are doing a great job. They're trying to, you know, create this disclosure and do all these things to me.
Android (42:08)
Yep. Right. Government credibility, right.
Neal Girandola (42:24)
I was wondering what they were doing there. And for me, it felt like, well, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. I don't want get to it, but I felt like they were there to legitimize this discovery. And what, know, but why it was so early in the, the discovery of it. ⁓ You had Sheehan. Sheehan was there, right? He
Android (42:31)
Right. Right.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Right. Right. Well, right. But do
you know why he's there? This made me laugh. This made me laugh. He came out and he spoke and he
Neal Girandola (42:48)
Why? Why was he there?
Android (42:53)
the powers that be are lying to Congress, trying to start a war of the worlds without our consent. That's why I am here.
for the true rights, to fight for the true rights. We are engaging in an alien war right now, a secret war.
Neal Girandola (43:11)
Wow.
he have music behind that when he was saying it was like don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't. Already. Don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't.
Android (43:17)
⁓ wait, do the music and I'll do the voiceover. Ready, go. We are engaging in an alien war right now,
a secret war.
Neal Girandola (43:27)
Yeah,
yeah, yeah, it's definitely good. It really brings brings you know what to do. I also I don't not to I don't want to jump ahead or whatever go back but in that presentation to they also
Android (43:32)
beautiful
Neal Girandola (43:44)
they really went out of their way to show us all the 3D renderings of the internal structure, you know, they really
Android (43:50)
Right.
Neal Girandola (43:51)
They're really like showing us drawings of what they say are in there and you know, all of those things. I mean, they really did this show right.
Android (43:55)
Yeah, you're right.
said when he spoke, was this was kind of cool. ⁓ He said that several companies
Neal Girandola (44:05)
Okay.
Android (44:08)
have offered to buy the sphere from him.
Neal Girandola (44:10)
Wait, you're talking about David Valdez who discovered the sphere? MN Jose? Yeah. So-
Android (44:13)
who discovered the sphere. Yeah. Him
and Jose, right? He said that the Spanish government and the Brazil government have offered to purchase the sphere from him. He also says that the sphere is an artifact that has been reversed engineered.
Neal Girandola (44:22)
Okay.
Interesting.
Android (44:28)
And then apparently the Colombian
government has asked for the spear back and Moussaan told them, don't give it back to them.
Neal Girandola (44:34)
So Mausson told us this, that that's what the government had said.
Android (44:36)
Yeah, yeah, all this stuff.
Every, every like exciting narrative has been created by Musa. That's what I'm telling you. The guy is brilliant. I mean, he should really be making major movies after this production. He should be doing major movies because it's beautiful.
Neal Girandola (44:49)
he's Yeah, but
I'm sure he will eventually but I listen I there does need to be a leader in this and Mausson took it over which I get ⁓ but it would make more sense for some things for him not to be telling us so exactly if the the if the Colombian government wanted this Sphere we would hear from the Colombian government saying that we want we want this Sphere you know there's certain things that
Android (45:13)
Right.
Neal Girandola (45:16)
you know, he's saying he's telling us too much, I think, in my opinion, anyway, go ahead, go ahead. So, all right. So wait, what came of the whole? So what was the outcome of this press conference? Like, what is the what was the overall vibe? What were what were the promises for the future? You know, what were they going to do?
Android (45:21)
Yeah. Okay. So.
They were just doing this to prove to us that aliens exist and this is their
and they're excited about sharing more of what they learned. But they've been silent since
haven't heard anything about really about Buga sphere since the end of June, July.
Neal Girandola (45:48)
it has
been quiet and I don't know if anybody picked up on this but at the UAP hearing last week, Massan was sitting in the audience he was there in the audience at about like the fifth row he couldn't get to the front they wouldn't put him in the
Android (45:57)
Yeah!
you see who was sitting beside him?
Neal Girandola (46:03)
no
Android (46:04)
mummies.
Neal Girandola (46:05)
he brought
brought the Nazca
Android (46:06)
he just brought the
just brought the
Neal Girandola (46:08)
his buddy now. Now he carries him around like like the ventriloquist
Android (46:09)
it's yeah yeah
Neal Girandola (46:11)
He brings it with him everywhere he goes. Yeah, he's like, yes, of
Android (46:11)
he's like hello are you here with amy?
Neal Girandola (46:16)
course this is real. He talks.
Listen.
Android (46:19)
I am an alien from Peru.
Neal Girandola (46:23)
I will drink water while he speaks.
whole conference was sort of like a Ted talk in a sense. It was like, like an academic symposium, you know, and definitely a PR
Right. So they're really, really hyping
Booga sphere with this by doing this. No one has ever done this by the way. Nope. They really made it a very huge, huge presentation. I think that they also said
Android (46:44)
Mm-hmm. No.
Right.
Neal Girandola (46:54)
They're promising to do more tests, more tests to come,
Android (46:58)
Yeah, they're going to do more
tests, but I mean, what else can they do with it? Because apparently when they try to run it through an MRI, right? It's going to electromagnetic thing causes it to not thing and they don't want to cut it open.
Neal Girandola (47:02)
Did.
Yeah.
that's the other thing. Like I did, I do remember seeing something on that, that they then they showed it in the 3d renderings in this, ⁓ this press conference, that you could see this sort of floating membrane within it. And that's what they were saying. But when you put metal through an MRI, it's not going to read, it's not going to read it properly. And it is going to create these floating sort of things within it, you know, so I mean, I'm no medical guy, and I'm not a scientist.
Android (47:29)
know, it reads it as a dense property,
Neal Girandola (47:37)
But that I researched that and that's what it said that you're not going to get a true reading on something like that. again,
Android (47:37)
Right.
Right.
Neal Girandola (47:43)
very easy just to create a 3D rendering of whatever you want people to
opinion.
Android (47:47)
can do anything for you right now.
Neal Girandola (47:48)
So do you think Massan invited like Greer and Sheehan and Berlison that he invited them or do think they invited themselves?
Android (47:55)
He invited them. Come on,
He needs
Neal Girandola (47:58)
these guys don't,
guys don't travel for free.
Android (48:01)
you think he paid him to go there? No.
Neal Girandola (48:04)
I think they gotta do they gotta it's gotta be your something right?
Android (48:07)
Well, let's face it,
Daniel, is an attorney. He's not doing anything unless he's getting paid by the hour. So let's just call that out. I mean, as famous as he is, he's not going to be like,
Neal Girandola (48:15)
That's what I mean, like...
Android (48:18)
I'm going to give you this one for free.
Neal Girandola (48:21)
Yeah.
Android (48:21)
And Greer, he's, dude, that guy will go wherever.
Neal Girandola (48:25)
none
of them
got to examine the sphere right i think it's i think listen
Android (48:29)
No, no, could only see
it. They could only see it in its glass case and read the lab reports that were given to them.
Neal Girandola (48:36)
Yeah. So I mean, they're
taking it to be honest with you. You know, they're on the precipice of some, hopefully major disclosure, right? Breaking open some major doors for this whole alien conversation. Why would they take the chance
Android (48:46)
Right?
Neal Girandola (48:53)
go to this event and, and support it and be behind it and really, you know, be sponsors of this event when it could turn on them like that.
and prove to be something that is debunked. It is not real. It is fake that they faked everything. And then that their credibility immediately goes out the window. that either they truly believe that this is alien
Android (49:09)
Here
Neal Girandola (49:17)
or, they got paid. And they needed they needed something not only get paid, but they needed something that's going to elevate them more into the press because there has been some
questionable things that they've come out and showed us and done or talked about or they have been they have been
They needed something to elevate them and put them back in the conversation again. So that's my that's my You know my my theory or my concern or whatever you want to call it on the reason that they're there They're taking a huge chance. So why would they be taking that chance?
for
Android (49:48)
they're believing, they're believing Mausson, they're believing everything that he's saying. So here's a huge thing.
Neal Girandola (49:53)
But
they may be believing him, but they also may be getting paid to come and do that, or they might be looking at the upside of it, that the fact that we're there, we're in the press now, people are talking about us
Android (49:58)
They are
Neal Girandola (50:03)
So I don't know.
Android (50:03)
Yeah, I mean, hi, it's
what day is it? September the
Greer say something major was going to happen in January of this
Maybe he's confused. Maybe he meant October, but he said January.
Neal Girandola (50:13)
He did, yeah.
I'm always seeing, I'm
always seeing something on him every week that says in the next 72 hours, in the next 72 hours, in the next 72 hours. Yeah.
Android (50:24)
Right. It's like, right. I mean, come on,
man.
Neal Girandola (50:28)
right. So wait, what's the point of this press conference? think?
Android (50:32)
it's the pushes his network. It's the do all that. This was the biggest launch for his network. Did he have millions? He has said millions of people sign up for his
all paying. I don't know what, like $11 a month or $9 a month or something like that. Right. So, you know, when you, when you think about the sphere itself, it's the size of a soccer ball,
Neal Girandola (50:40)
Yeah, something like that. think it's the, yeah, yeah.
Android (50:52)
the size of it. It's, it's got like little engravements, you know, engravings on the outside.
Neal Girandola (50:53)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Android (50:58)
they had that guy
Nacho Rojo said look it can't do that it can't float like that right and then when they looked at the video you could actually like see the string hanging from the thing floating
Neal Girandola (51:01)
You can't, yeah, couldn't be attached to a drone.
Yeah. Well, I did
a video. I did a video on Tik TOK. You guys can go check that
⁓ I was actually, as we were putting this show together, I found, ⁓ a glitch in the exact video that they shared with in the press conference. If you scan through it, all of a sudden there appears to be
Android (51:27)
wire.
Neal Girandola (51:28)
not a wire. Well, that's a different video. I didn't do that one, but this one shows almost looks like a drone directly above where, the sphere.
⁓ and, and, and, and, and in the angle that it would be going, if it were pulling it, you know what I mean? That kind of thing.
I put it out there and we've got hundreds of thousands of views and comments. People are, I'll tell you what to in this community. I mean, people aren't going to
whether we haven't weighed in on our decisions yet of whether this is real. And I mean, we're leaning towards certain things, but we're trying to show the connection of this whole story.
you know, trying to, trying to just share the facts with
people I've already noticed that in this world, and especially when you talk about the Buga Sphere
they get mad, they get offended. If you say that it's not real, they're getting mad
my point of this is
This is religion for some people. This is very, yes, it's sacrilegious. If you go against the belief of this, the spheres especially has brought out this kind of
Android (52:17)
Right.
I heard a great quote. I'm going to share the quote with you right
in school. Don't do drugs.
Neal Girandola (52:27)
I love that one. Try to make friends too. Add that. that. And try to make
Android (52:30)
Right. No,
here it is. You ready?
becomes ideology
and ideology becomes science,
Neal Girandola (52:34)
Mm-hmm.
Android (52:36)
there's really no room at the table for discussion.
always have to be willing to debate. That's what makes this fun. So here's a major
All the people, remember we mentioned people there from the government, we mentioned people there from NASA, we mentioned all of that.
Neal Girandola (52:46)
Yes.
Android (52:49)
Well guess who controlled all of that filter to
Neal Girandola (52:53)
Yeah, my son.
Android (52:54)
There is no accurate,
Neal Girandola (52:54)
really all the information is coming from
Android (52:56)
is no accurate verification that those people were even there.
Neal Girandola (52:56)
Yeah.
Android (53:00)
It's not like you can say, yes, John Rogers from the NASA Institute was here. We have him signed in. We have a photograph of him. No, we just said, hey, those people over there are from NASA. And those people are over there are from the government. And those people over there are from the old Kmart buying
Neal Girandola (53:16)
I hear your point. I mean, they he's showing us and telling us he's showing us something and telling us what we are seeing.
no one else from in that circle saying,
Android (53:24)
Right.
Neal Girandola (53:29)
Listen, we did this. And this is, know, even UNAM, I think was saying
has not made an opinion on
Android (53:36)
we don't know if Moussaan invested in Valazs'
the fact that his company is electronic magnetic detection for treasure hunting, archeology, and hypocarbids, that's what their company does, right?
Neal Girandola (53:40)
What we-
Mm. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. Right. Yes.
Android (53:50)
Let's talk about the footage that we found. Two synchronized videos. That's what they found. Two synchronized videos. No
continuous shots, just edited video. That's all we have,
fact that they didn't approach Colombian authorities, they went straight to Musad. Why? Because that's where the money
Neal Girandola (54:07)
and the fact that the, the, you know, Greer and Burleson and she enter
another question of why, why would they jump on that so soon?
Android (54:13)
And
would you need to do a network premiere on this thing and to make it as elaborate as it was, unless you're trying to sell something.
No, absolutely not. This is, this is just the Atrix made for TV to make people
Neal Girandola (54:25)
Andrew, this a mostly true alien story or not?
Android (54:34)
Greer, Sheehan, Burleson. They were all paid to be
everybody else that went there was just there for the spectacle. This was a huge
The sphere is not an alien tech. It's not reverse tech. If anything, it's being drug around by a drone or there's an actual drone inside. That's my
I wanted it to be real, but it's not.
Neal Girandola (54:53)
okay.
Andrew, you say it's not a mostly true alien story. And now it's my turn to weigh in. I loved all the details you brought to
Android (54:57)
No
Neal Girandola (55:04)
to this that make you just raise your eyebrow. And I don't like when it's one person telling us what we are seeing, you know, that that's
Android (55:11)
You're telling me what I need to see,
Neal Girandola (55:14)
If if this were
this would be peer
This would be ⁓ published, all the findings would be published in
are not. ⁓ Everything's being controlled by one
Is it truly an alien artifact or are we just being told it is? You know,
Android (55:28)
yeah, it's an alien artifact.
Neal Girandola (55:30)
the videos that we see, as you said, they're never beginning. There's never an end.
Android (55:35)
No, they're all just edited clips.
Neal Girandola (55:35)
It's
And I think that that that nacho when nacho came in really immediately let's debunk any debunkers thinking that this is being pulled by a drone. didn't need to do that. Why would you do that? I well I don't think I was thinking that at first.
Android (55:45)
This
Right.
Neal Girandola (55:51)
Anyway, this is not a mostly true alien story in my opinion.
I want it to be real. How cool would it be if it were
Android (55:57)
Yeah!
Neal Girandola (55:58)
But
Android (55:58)
yeah, or
dude, even if it was just a floating sphere like that,
Neal Girandola (56:01)
just too coincidental that these guys happen to be treasure hunting in that area. This appears.
And then, you know, it winds up in Mausson's hands. think it was very staged ⁓ and very well thought
I think Greer, Sheehan
stepped in too soon.
haven't heard them speaking about it since.
Android (56:20)
No.
Neal Girandola (56:21)
they thought it was so real, they would be behind it still. They'd still be pushing this and we got
Android (56:25)
Yeah, well, this would
be great for Greer because he, you know, he had a, he had a strikeout in, in January with nothing happening and every 72 hours something's happening. And now this would have been great for him to go, dude, the Buga Sphere was amazing. I saw it. It floated.
Neal Girandola (56:31)
Yeah.
All right. So there you have it. The Buga Sphere encounter. You've heard our report. You've heard Andrew's take. He says it's not a mostly true alien story. I agree with him. It is not a mostly true alien story. But the real question now is
What do you guys think? Is this a mostly true alien story or just a story designed to make us believe?
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until then, be kind to the aliens when they get
Andrew, nice job.
Android (57:31)
Thanks,
Neal Girandola (57:31)
see you guys next