Neo (00:00)
Andrew, I sent you over a
a movie I'm working on and I'd like for you to consider you for one of the parts. Okay, the scene is the aliens have arrived, the world may be ending and you are the first to see them.
Okay, I want you to read one line at a time. I'm going to direct you. Okay, first line,
want
to read it with
passion, great passion. You're in the scene. All right, ready and first line and
Android (00:20)
The aliens are here.
Neo (00:21)
let's try the second line.
Okay, the second line now is with
Android (00:26)
I'm scared.
Neo (00:27)
Now let's read both of them together. Ready? And
action.
Android (00:30)
The aliens are here.
I'm scared.
Neo (00:32)
Wow.
Now we can start the show. Welcome to another episode, Mostly True Alien Stories.
So as we always do, Andrew, we start with Alien News and Entertainment. What do you have for us this episode?
Android (01:01)
huge fan of Jimmy Carter, former president Jimmy Carter, and he just passed a hundred years old, I think is what he was. Yeah, died last month at the age of a hundred. But I didn't know this about former president Jimmy Carter. Off the record, his thoughts on UFOs and alien civilizations. Yeah, yeah, he actually, he thought, yeah, he, think he just wanted to meet him.
Neo (01:02)
Hmm. Yeah, it just just passed away.
crazy.
Is that right? He had a he had interest in it.
wanted to meet them.
Android (01:26)
He,
yeah, he said, the way I see it, there's nothing to fear.
If there is life out there, we still are part of the same master
God's hands are big enough to hold us both.
Neo (01:35)
So he had a passion for it. had an interest. has a belief in that and but no secrets, nothing like he knows something.
Android (01:42)
No, he didn't
deval any secrets that he saw them or met them or anything like that. So I was like, that's kind of cool though.
Neo (01:47)
God rest Jimmy Carter. Yeah, that is neat.
Android (01:50)
Also, a former defense official makes earth-shattering UFO revelation as unexplained drones leave millions on edge.
Neo (01:58)
was this?
Android (01:59)
A former defense official. A former, this is according to Fox News, so we know it's true. I don't think he's anonymous. Okay, so testimonial reports have exposed unidentified flying object sightings across the country amid the national attention. Now this was released on, what better day than Christmas Day to 2024 at 4 a.m. Eastern time.
Neo (02:01)
Okay.
Anonymous? Is it anonymous?
Android (02:23)
name was Luis Elizondo. Elizondo, the former head of the Defense Department's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. Another witness has testified before Congress last month about an alleged government group hiding the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos.
Neo (02:26)
Okay.
Okay, so but this guy's the head of that organization.
Android (02:44)
yeah, it says he was the former head of the Defense Department's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.
Neo (02:52)
Where is she now?
Android (02:53)
I think they killed him. No, I don't know what he's doing. He's probably working at Burger King or something. I don't know. He said he believes that we as Americans can handle the truth and also believes that the world deserves the truth, urging Congress to enact the legislation protecting whistleblowers too afraid to come forward.
Neo (03:14)
Now this is on the tails of the drone stuff happening.
Android (03:18)
Yeah,
this is on the tails of the drone stuff happening. Yeah. And now he's coming out to say this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then it says, the other part of this article is pretty cool. It says a military trained
Neo (03:20)
And now he's coming out to say...
He knows what it is.
Very interesting.
Android (03:33)
Reported that he was camping alone in the mountain center in California in October when suddenly
all natural outdoor related noises went silent.
the entire area lit up brighter than the brightest full moon he had ever seen. According to the UFO reporting site, the man said he saw a white, oval
was 20 to 30 feet long hovering above the
adding that the light remained completely still and noiseless, admitted no heat, and resembled a large helicopter.
When Louise, the former head of the Defense Department's Advanced Aerospace Threatened Identification Program, that's a long, they need to shorten that. No, it wasn't Louise, but he read all these reports. Yeah, he got several reports. And with that, that's making him say, hey guys, come on, let's start talking about this for real.
Neo (04:04)
I love Louise.
But there wasn't Louise that witnessed this. This is a reporting.
Android (04:22)
and let's stop calling people crazy that think that they saw it. I think that's one of the things that I've noticed in all of this is that
they're labeled, people that see UFOs are labeled as crazy. And that's why they're afraid to come out because they don't want to be ridiculed.
Neo (04:35)
You think I think more and more people don't mind reporting that stuff now. I think it's not so crazy. It may have been crazy. You know. Even 10 years ago. But I think as recent as five years, I don't think it yet. You're crazy. I mean, I think you have to report it. I think I think I think if I saw it at UFO, I can't wait to tell
Android (04:43)
Back in the 50s. Right. Right.
Neo (05:00)
You have to tell you I would tell my friends.
Android (04:59)
Would you tell me?
Even me, the non-believer?
Neo (05:04)
because I want to get your take on it.
I want to see if you can say I'm crazy.
Android (05:11)
could I scream lines at you? Like, you're out of order. You're insane. You're crazy.
Neo (05:13)
But you bet your ass I'm gonna have video. I'm gonna have-
You
need me on that
Android (05:21)
hide behind the very truth
Neo (05:24)
listeners, if you see a UFO, please report it and especially maybe call us. I'd love to know. Yeah.
Android (05:27)
Yeah. Yeah, let us know. We'll go there.
We've got a small budget. We can do that.
Neo (05:33)
Yeah, don't be afraid to report it. I won't think you're
Andrew May. Yeah. All right, what else? Yeah, what
Android (05:38)
I will. I'll call the state hospital. I'll call the state hospital.
You know, I love alien movies. I've talked to you about this on many levels. I love aliens. I love Predator. But I want to talk about classic film.
Neo (05:46)
Yes.
Sure.
Android (05:53)
classic film from 1982, created by John Carpenter, who the originator of Halloween. He did a remake of the 1950s, The Thing with Kurt Russell. So if you haven't seen this movie, go watch it. It's on Prime Video. It's freaking amazing.
Neo (06:12)
Now I heard this was well done. I heard it
Android (06:15)
What I love about it is the whole setup that they have, because this thing can actually take the form of anything and take the form of you. You can be talking to the thing right now. Right now, you are.
Neo (06:25)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I feel like I am talking to the thing.
how would you know if he is the thing? How did they, you want to ruin it? Is he spoilers? We doing spoilers?
Android (06:33)
what they did, I'm
gonna do spoilers. Something come on, the movie came out in 1982. If you haven't seen it by now, sorry. 82 with Kurt Russell, yeah. This is in the 50s, yeah. Yeah, it came out in the
Neo (06:40)
Right. Well, that 82 with Kurt Russell, but because the original thing came out in the fifties. Yeah.
Android (06:48)
So they did this experiment, right? They took everybody's blood, because the blood is alive. And so they were in Antarctica, and they found a ship. And on the ship, they found this thing.
Neo (06:51)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Hey, you know what? There's a reason why a lot of stories start in Antarctica.
Just there's something going on there.
Android (07:06)
yeah. I think it was a penguin.
I think it was a penguin god.
You ever see the penguins in Madagascar? Those were bad penguins. Bad penguins.
So if you haven't seen the thing, watch it because it is so intense because you're great.
Neo (07:14)
we went from the thing to the... Okay.
So that's
this week's recommendation from you for movies to
Android (07:26)
That's this week's recommendation, yeah. Go and watch
For movies to watch. Yeah, I think that'll be really cool. And then I'm gonna briefly mention Paradise that's coming out. Begins on Hulu on January the 28th. There's gonna be more about that, so we'll report more about that later.
Neo (07:43)
Okay, right now we're recording this on January 26th. This episode probably won't, by the time this comes out, that will be out.
Android (07:48)
premieres on the 29th. Yeah.
Neo (07:53)
Yeah. Okay.
Android (07:52)
Out. So watch it. So if you're listening, watch it.
I like it.
So David Bowie was a believer of extraterrestrials.
Neo (08:02)
You know, I've heard this.
Android (08:03)
Yeah, he had several UFO experiences.
Neo (08:07)
That's what drugs will do to you, You know?
Android (08:09)
I guess.
he did this article and it was written by gentleman's last name was Stein.
Stein quoted Bowie as saying he has a metal pin in his body and added that the musician revealed he worked with an English UFO magazine. Bowie said he witnessed significant UFO activity from an observatory up to seven times a night over the course of a year.
He explained the interaction between the craft and it's frankly bonkers, he said. I used to work for two guys who put out a UFO magazine in England And I made sightings six to seven times a night for about a year when I was in the observatory. we had regular cruises that came
6.15 was coming. Yeah, yeah.
Neo (08:54)
Wait cruises like alien cruises, alien ship cruises?
Android (08:58)
would meet up
with one another, like they would, the ships would meet up, he'd see them, they'd be stationary for about a half an hour.
And then after verifying what they'd been doing that day, they'd shoot off.
Neo (09:08)
So wait, this is Bowie. He was working for a magazine.
Android (09:10)
This is David Bowie.
Yep, it's a buddy,
a friend of his
And he said that he would go to this observatory. They were allowed to go up into this observatory and he did this for a year.
Neo (09:19)
Yeah.
Android (09:23)
And for.
Neo (09:23)
But why would he go
to the observatory? did he, what was he just like, Hey, I need you to go out and find alien.
Android (09:27)
just chilling out. Well, his
friend was like, his friend was like, Hey, man, you know, I'm doing this UFO magazine. Can you help me out? He's like, Sure. He's like, well, come with me up to this observatory.
Neo (09:38)
and he had a natural inclination. He was interested in this kind of stuff and maybe he had experiences prior to this. And so they went up to this observatory and he's witnessing these alien cruise ships coming up. And this had nothing to do with drugs.
Android (09:41)
Yep. Yep.
I'm guessing. Yep.
then they would connect, they would hook up.
nothing to do with drugs. He doesn't mention that he was high or on anything.
Neo (09:59)
And I don't know. Yeah.
Android (10:00)
I think it's kind of cool that they would
hook up, right? The ships would hook up. So they cruise up every night and they'd be like this, right? And then they would sit there for about 30 minutes.
Neo (10:07)
on listener for those of you who
are not getting the visuals Andrew's holding his hands his fingers are pointing towards each other and he's just holding them like a bump and they'd meet and then shoot off because they have they're so advanced in technology but they had to get really close to talk that was the last thing that they could they came they didn't invent that yet but then they'd shoot away
Android (10:15)
and then they'd shoot off, just like that. Yes.
They were hard of
hearing. don't know.
Neo (10:35)
What do you suppose
was going on? Did David say what he thought was going on? Does Bowie know?
Android (10:40)
He said that
they were transferring data, transferring information to each other.
Neo (10:44)
They can fly light years away, but they gotta meet in California above the observatory nose to nose to transfer data. They couldn't figure that out.
Android (10:58)
look. This happened in the 70s, so was probably an older model ship. You know, they hadn't quite got the Bluetooth or the Wi-Fi down quite yet is what I'm
Neo (11:08)
makes me love Bowie even more. You know what mean?
Android (11:11)
Exactly, exactly.
But he has, you know, he has a lot of different, a lot of different stories.
Neo (11:16)
He does.
Android (11:17)
Yeah, he talked about another time he saw an object hovering over an English countryside, but later he determined it was not an object, but a doorway to another.
Neo (11:31)
Really? Wait a minute, What is it, what is it that he, why does he think that that's what the, this is just acid trips. This is good LSD. Bowie? He made it in his basement.
Android (11:42)
No! Bowie didn't do acid.
He stopped all that after he met Iman, though. He didn't do drugs.
Neo (11:55)
When did the UFO reporting stop? About the same time.
Anything
Android (12:01)
So that's all I got for you.
Neo (12:02)
Well, that's great. I loved the alien news and entertainment, but you know, when you're done with alien news and entertainment, you know what that means. It is story time. And as we always do, yeah, as we always do I tell the story of a reported alien encounter or happening or abduction that has been recorded in history. And you and I
Android (12:11)
That means it's story time! I'm so excited about story time.
Neo (12:26)
We'll weigh in on whether we believe it's mostly true or not.
Android (12:30)
right.
Neo (12:31)
This is the aerial school encounter that happened in Ruwa, Zimbabwe in 1994.
Android (12:36)
cool.
Neo (12:38)
Yeah, it's one of the most compelling UFO encounters in recent history. It's not just because of what happened, but because of who witnessed it.
A group of
isn't just a story of lights in the sky. It's a story that touches on fear,
wonder, innocence and a
has gripped the minds of ufologists and skeptics alike for nearly 30 years.
it's September 16 1994 in Rua, a small tranquil farming village about 20 miles southeast of Harar, the capital of Zimbabwe.
At the time, this part of Africa was known for its rolling fields, thick forests and a sky so clear you could lose yourself just staring at the
Android (13:15)
Wow,
Neo (13:16)
you get the setting. You understand this? Okay.
Android (13:16)
that's lovely. I got it. I'm there.
Neo (13:20)
morning, the sun rose over the aerial school. It's a private
Android (13:20)
journeying.
Neo (13:23)
Elementary school with a playground surrounded by thick
air smelled of dry earth and freshly cut grass typical of a late spring day in the southern hemisphere.
Android (13:33)
it.
Neo (13:33)
By all
accounts, it was a perfectly ordinary Friday morning, but by 1015am, that ordinary day was about to become anything
at precisely
Most of the 250 children at the aerial school were inside the classrooms. They're focused on their studies. Teachers and staff were holding a meeting indoors, leaving only a few adults to supervise the 62 children playing outside on the schoolyard during
You have 250 kids inside, got 62 outside, the teachers are in a
the school, and they just let the kids out with a couple of supervisors, right? Yeah, right in the middle of Africa.
Android (14:05)
for recess. Yeah, what are they gonna do? They're gonna get beaten by lion or whatever. right.
Neo (14:12)
suddenly a group of children spotted something unusual over the trees in the distance One of them screamed and others turned to look hovering just above the horizon They saw what they later described as a silver disc
silently through the air
as the object got closer its movement became stranger Witnesses said it moved erratically zigzagging and stopping suddenly before descending into the brush
about 100 meters beyond the edge of the
One witness described it as almost
in the air, defying the laws of gravity.
We hear that a lot about these ships, right? That just defying gravity.
Android (14:47)
fine gravity like wicked.
Neo (14:49)
Then the unbelievable
small beings emerged from the brush near the object. They were described as having large black almond shaped eyes, thin bodies.
Android (14:55)
Okay.
Neo (15:00)
and dressed in tight, shiny black clothing. They were very stylish for that time.
Android (15:04)
I like it.
For the 90s, yeah, that sounds very
Neo (15:09)
They were about a meter tall, just over three feet and seemed to glide rather than
Their heads were large and their skin was smooth, almost featureless.
Android (15:14)
That's cool.
Neo (15:18)
And this, this wasn't just a fleeting glimpse.
These children said they watched the beings for several minutes.
now you have all 62 kids in the middle of
countryside rolling hills.
Android (15:29)
Right, right.
Neo (15:31)
private school
looking at these two beings that were coming towards them in a ship.
Some of the kids were frozen in place, unable to look away. Others were terrified and began crying or screaming. A girl by the name of Cynthia Hind, who was 11 years old at the time, said she felt an overwhelming sense of dread and fear as if the beings were peering into her soul.
Another student by the name of Salma Siddique said she was filled with inexplicable sense of sadness.
Android (15:53)
Ew.
Neo (16:01)
So they're experiencing two different things at the time,
Android (16:04)
Fear and
The aliens are here.
Neo (16:07)
Yeah. my God. You might get that part. Keep working on it. Just keep working on it.
Android (16:11)
I hope so. I really need the
money. I'm gonna keep working on it.
Neo (16:16)
Alright, several children described the beings as having communicated with them, but not through words. Instead, they described a telepathic experience.
Android (16:22)
mentally.
Neo (16:26)
I love that.
Android (16:26)
of their brain.
easy pressure being built up inside their heads.
Neo (16:31)
Mm Well, this funny you say that because one of the boys said he felt a message being placed directly into his mind the message.
A warning.
The being seem they see
Android (16:40)
Don't eat at Subway. No, sorry.
Neo (16:42)
the being seem to express concern about humanity's destructive path, particularly regarding the environment.
came from light years away and they decided to go to this private school just little children and tell them
Android (16:56)
Wait.
So in the kid's
head, in the kid's head he heard, Help Woodsy spread the word, don't be a dirty bird in the city or in the woods. Help keep Africa looking good. Give a hoot, don't pollute. Got it, go.
Neo (17:17)
to the ship.
You
Yeah, all right. So
Android (17:24)
that's good. Okay.
Neo (17:27)
one girl said, I just felt they were telling us we were doing harm to the planet. We need to stop. So a couple of these kids were having this the same messages told. She said this thought came to her so strongly that it felt like her own.
Android (17:37)
Okay.
Neo (17:42)
she was sure it
The children's descriptions were strikingly similar, even when they were separated and interviewed individually.
Their accounts of the craft, the beings and the telepathic messages were nearly identical.
So now the teachers where the where the heck were the teachers by the way, you know? Yeah, exactly. yeah, yeah. It's some good Zimbabwe shit, man. yeah. I can't do the accent.
Android (18:00)
Right, they were inside.
That's Jamaican.
Neo (18:12)
yeah. Those private schools.
Android (18:17)
They get everybody. I'll teach you from every, you know what? There probably was a teacher from Jamaica there. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have made fun of you doing that. I was quick to judge and that was wrong. And I apologize. If you're listening, I apologize.
Neo (18:22)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were quick to judge me. Uh-huh.
Now, here's where it gets even more interesting. The adults at the school didn't witness the event
were in a staff meeting time when the kids ran inside screaming and crying the teachers thought it was a prank or some overactive Imaginations, but the sheer terror on the children's faces made them pause
kids weren't just playing a joke. They were genuinely afraid and Then that afternoon the school's headmistress Colin
interviewing the children she separated them and asked each of them to draw what they had
and the results were
Nearly every child drew the same thing, a saucer-like craft and humanoid figures with large black eyes. These drawings remain some of the most compelling evidence from the
ahead.
Android (19:11)
have a question.
Can you, wow, look at your mug. That's interesting. For those of you that are just listening and not watching, Neal has an alien mug that has a large head with large black eyes. So any child knows that alien has a black shaped almond eyes. I mean, come on, and dressed as a bad.
Neo (19:17)
Look just like that.
Android (19:30)
as bad as Michael Jackson's bad videos when it sounds like they were dressed as, but only three feet. He's an alien. Woo!
Neo (19:36)
He's bad.
Clean the environment. Yeah,
So anyway, the word quickly spread and within days, local reporters and UFO investigators were on the
So one of the first investigators to arrive was this Cynthia Hind, a prominent Zimbabwean
meticulously documented the incident conducting interviews with the children and staff.
what truly elevated the aerial school encounter to global prominence was the involvement of Dr. John Mack Pulitzer Prize winning professor of
from Harvard
Android (20:10)
Yep, Johnny Mack.
Neo (20:11)
Mack flew to Zimbabwe to personally interview the children and what he found
was remarkable. let me just say he was well known for his work studying alien abduction
And he said the children were incredibly
emotions, their body language had all suggested they were telling the
believed they had experienced something extraordinary, though he stopped short of claiming it was definitively extraterrestrial.
Mack famously said, these are normal children, they have no reason to lie, something happened to them, and we need to take that seriously. However, his involvement didn't come without controversy. The academic community criticized Mack for lending credibility to what they considered pseudoscience, but he remained steadfast in his belief that the children's accounts were genuine.
interestingly, the Zimbabwean government largely avoided involvement in the incident, so they wanted nothing to do with
And unlike some UFO cases in the United States or the UK, there was no apparent military investigation, nor were there any attempts to debunk or cover up the event, at least not
Android (21:03)
Yeah. Yeah.
Neo (21:15)
And as for the media coverage, it was sporadic. Local outlets initially ran with the story, but it gained significant traction only after Heinz report
and max
three decades later, the aerial school encounter remains one of the most well documented mass UFO sightings in history. But there's still questions about the validity of that entire experience. There's been interviews conducted as recently as 2020 witnesses like Salma Sadiq that I mentioned earlier and others recounted the event with clarity and conviction.
Android (21:48)
Mm-hmm.
Neo (21:51)
And I believe that documentary or that series was on
Yeah, yeah. It's called encounters. Yep. Some of the children went on to careers in science, education and the arts, while others prefer to avoid public scrutiny altogether. But none of them have recanted their story as of today,
Android (21:56)
Yeah, yeah, it is on Netflix right now. It's called encounters, encounters. Yeah.
Neo (22:13)
26 2025.
It's also worth noting that the aerial school encounter wasn't an isolated incident.
In the weeks leading up to it, were numerous reports of strange lights in the skies over southern Africa, a sighting in Harar just days before described a similar metallic object hovering silently. And these are, it's the capital of Zimbabwe, yeah. And these reports add another layer of intrigue suggesting that whatever the children witnessed that day may not have been confined to their playground.
Android (22:35)
I believe it's the capital of Zimbabwe, right? Yeah. Okay.
Neo (22:48)
And that's our story. So now I'm gonna hand it to you. If you have any other details you'd like to add, I'd like you to let's weigh in on whether you think it's a mostly true alien story or not.
Android (22:54)
Yeah, so,
Okay, so there's several things that are out there. This is interesting news. This is from the headmistress. There's been the headmistress at the school for 53 years. She said that she was
by aliens soon after, a week and a half after the event happened. The headmistress was visited
Neo (23:12)
When? When?
The headmistress was abducted.
Android (23:22)
By aliens, she said that they stuck a thing, a syringe in her belly button, and they talked to her and they asked her to come with them.
headmistress of the school of the aerial school. Colleen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So she said that, yeah, she, she said that she was visited by the aliens three different times. Each time they asked her to come with her, come with them to space. And she said no, because she was feeling, she said she was feeling horrible about how the kids were being treated and all of this.
Neo (23:58)
You think maybe she was carrying a little bit of guilt? Yeah. Okay.
Android (23:58)
Guilt for how badly she treated the kids? Yeah, and these were just nightmares that she was having. Yes, that's what I believe it is
now. Two kids came forward and said that they lied, but the incident never happened. This is shocking. I actually watched the documentary on Netflix and two kids came forward. I later confirm that in as adults as adults.
Neo (24:15)
When did they come forward and say this? When?
Okay.
as adults, as adults they came forward.
Android (24:27)
But they said that they came forward a few years ago and said they were so scared that they had lied. And this was the kid that initially said that he saw the
according to him, he was going to have an exam in a class because they learned different languages in Zimbabwe. They don't just learn English. They learn some of the local tribal languages. And he was going to have a test that day in that language. And he wanted to get out of the test. So him and his friend, yes, him and his friend.
Neo (24:49)
and he wanted to get out of it.
No.
Android (24:56)
came up with this lie and said, my God, there's a ship. There's a ship. There's a ship. And it was a rock.
Neo (25:00)
So they started
the lie and got everybody scared and worked up.
Android (25:04)
to believe it, yeah. And then there was another interesting fact is that there was a gardener that was out in the field where this rock was that he described as a shiny rock that he claimed was the UFO that had this huge piece of metal.
and the shimmering of the metal is what they saw and they saw him far away as the alien.
So these are just the stories that have come out. Now, what's interesting is that I did some research looking at some stuff right here on John E. Mack. You know, they wanted to... Mack is a psychiatrist, yeah, from Harvard, Renowned.
Neo (25:37)
So wait, Mac is, the, he was the psychiatrist, he was renowned, and then he switches over to
become this ufologist guy.
Android (25:47)
Yes,
so that you're aware, he had made the talk show circuit. He was on Maury Povich. He was on Oprah. Because of other UFO incidents. And then they brought him back, right? They brought him back for this stuff, okay? So he believed that something happened to these kids. He's not sure if it was a UFO thing.
Neo (25:53)
because of this incident.
Right. But he, yeah, he.
Android (26:08)
but he believes that something happened, which is what you were stressing in the story that Mack believed that. That is 100 % true. Now, where it gets
is that he was killed by a drunk driver in London.
September 27th, 2024, he was struck by a drunk driver in
thinking that the conspiracy is they killed him because he was on to something
Neo (26:34)
the government.
Android (26:35)
Whoever.
Neo (26:36)
I don't know. think, I think anybody that's in the researching UFO incidences or UAPs or any of these alien abductions, if they die, everyone's going to say that the government killed
Android (26:38)
because
Neo (26:52)
mean, they're going to die eventually. he died of old age. The government caught him.
Android (26:51)
Yeah. Possibly. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, here was the thing. He was killed by a drunk driver heading west on Totridge Lane. He was walking home alone after dinner with friends when he was struck at 11.25
He lost in
Neo (27:06)
in Africa,
Android (27:08)
He lost consciousness at the scene of the crash. was pronounced dead shortly.
The driver,
Raymond Chikinowski, an IT manager, was arrested at the scene and later entered a plea of guilty to careless driving while under the influence of
Neo (27:23)
Was it Raymond work for the government?
Android (27:26)
I think so. I think so. think he was a double agent. No. So there's also psychiatrists that believe that this was mass hysteria and that the kids actually believe it. They actually believe that they saw what they saw.
Neo (27:27)
You're just making that up. Now you're spreading rumors.
you
Android (27:42)
I don't know. I don't.
Neo (27:42)
Okay, so all of this information
that you're adding in and after hearing the story.
Android (27:47)
Yeah, I don't believe they saw anything.
Neo (27:50)
You don't think this is a mostly true alien
Android (27:52)
I think this is a mostly true story, but I don't think it's
Neo (27:56)
Yeah, so your take is that these two bully kids in school didn't want to take this test. And they essentially got the whole class riled up. Yeah, they had their opportunity because we weren't teachers outside.
Android (28:05)
everyone else to do it,
Right.
here's the thing. If this headmistress, right, says that she, the headmistress of the school says that she was
and they injected a thing into her belly button. Well, what was this thing? What did they inject in her? Where is it? Get an x-ray, show me
I want proof, right.
Neo (28:23)
wanted more proof. Well, here here's
Okay, so you think it's not a mostly true alien story. Okay. Okay, great. All right, my turn. So
Android (28:29)
No, I think it's hysterical. I think it's mass hysteria.
Neo (28:39)
Yeah, yeah, I'm a little disappointed in you. I'm a little disappointed in you Yeah Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah. Well, you're really you know you were digging deep on the whole Mac murder thing He wasn't he just got he was unlucky
Android (28:39)
That was so dismissive, it was like, yeah, you're just stupid. You didn't even listen to my story. What's wrong with you? I hate you. Okay, I hate it here.
Okay, now wait,
I have one more theory. I have one more theory. This is gonna blow your mind.
Neo (28:59)
okay. Yeah.
Android (29:01)
what if they paid the two kids that are now denying it, what if they paid them money to keep them quiet,
to come out now to get rid of the whole story? They just paid them, paid them off to say it was a lie.
Neo (29:11)
to say it was a lie?
You think like producers of Netflix were saying, we need a little more
Android (29:17)
No,
no, I'm talking about them.
Neo (29:20)
Government? You're still not saying who you're referring to. Government or aliens? Here's my thoughts. Here's... Yeah. Yeah. I...
Android (29:22)
You call it whatever you want. I can't, I am not allowed to talk about it. I told you. I have signed so many NDAs. I don't even remember what I signed, but they told me don't talk about it. So we'll
just call them them.
Neo (29:38)
Here's my thoughts on this whole incident. I think
it's awfully hard to convince 62 other children or 60 other children to lie, right? To get everybody to
get worked up. Maybe these kids were what grade? were like middle school, right?
Android (29:56)
sixth grade. They were between fourth and sixth grade.
Neo (29:59)
Yeah, so there, there may be the fourth graders would have a, could scare them a little easier, but the old, you know, the, the fifth and sixth graders, you're, they're heading into more of a,
more of a, more aware. And, and I,
Android (30:11)
You're still
dealing with an adolescent brain though that's like, non-functioning.
Neo (30:14)
Sure,
sure, but you have one adolescent trying to, that's brilliance for them to be able to think of this whole idea and try to get everybody to have mass hysteria and really work this whole group up into this lather of seeing an alien.
Android (30:30)
What was the message?
Neo (30:35)
So I'm going to tell you both sides here.
but we don't know what her we actually don't know the background on her be interesting to find out maybe she's always had this alien affinity, right? So there was always some interest in the
technology and aliens, etc, etc. So maybe
were times that
you know, in her career with these kids and during the school year, there was talk of aliens or, know, there may have been an influence may have
and then these kids may have latched onto it. This, these kids that wanted to get out of the tests and then maybe they created this scenario. Maybe that's, that's very plausible, but that is like, that's like oceans 11 planning right there. That's like, you know, making everything come into play here.
Android (31:02)
Maybe. Okay.
Neo (31:22)
I think that the kids did see something.
I do believe that it's very hard to get a large group like this to come up with a story and stick to it all these years. I am amazed that the government didn't get involved, that there was no reports of anything, just local police and then
Then these, you know, psychiatrists came in and do that. I don't get that, but I don't understand the dynamics of maybe where the school is located and the reporting of it.
Android (31:51)
I, right, well,
they're basically near looking at where the school is placed. They're near like a wildlife reservation. So maybe the circle of giraffes got together and decided as giraffes, let's scare the kids today. Let's put on shiny outfits and let's scare them.
Neo (32:02)
Mm-hmm. They're in the middle of nowhere.
Let's scare the kids today.
Yeah.
I think this is a mostly true alien story. And I believe that something did happen, the alien in nature. And I will tell you this, Andrew, right now, our listeners probably believe it's mostly true as well. So you are outnumbered. I'm telling you right
Android (32:20)
Well, okay.
okay, wait. These were aliens that flew in a ship, landed three feet tall, dressed like something out of a Michael Jackson video of the 80s, and they
clean your planet. That was the only message. And why were they scared to hear that? Think about it. Some of the kids were fearful, right? Some of the kids heard the message.
Neo (32:50)
Well, you know, you know,
you have you have a daughter, I have children as as adults, when they're little, how do we get them to not do something, we scare them.
Android (32:55)
Right?
So the aliens just came to scare these 60 children in Africa to clean the planet in the middle of nowhere, right? And so how these kids gone out and are they all environmental scientists now and they're cleaning the planet?
Neo (33:06)
in the middle of nowhere. Yeah.
Well,
maybe maybe it was maybe some of them have led to some change in life. You know, it's the chain of events. Maybe maybe that has their their we're put on a track to not just maybe they didn't make the difference, but what they how they led their life going forward after that incident influenced other people. And then so on and so forth. And then made us create the show. Somehow that made us create the show.
I think it's mostly true alien story. Andrew does not. Yeah, but I think it was a good good show. And Andrew, please take us take us out with that song again. Let's go. Go ahead.
Android (33:44)
Don't pollute!
I do not. I'm sorry.
Help would see spread the word. Don't be a dirty bird in the city or in the woods. Help keep America looking good. Give a hoot, don't pollute.
Neo (34:00)
Yeah.
All right.
I love it. Until next time, folks. Mostly true alien story.