Neal Girandola (00:00)
A US Air Force colonel sent to debunk UFOs, a cold morning off the coast of
and a pair of extraterrestrials
their
roadside mechanics.
years, his job was to cover up the
what he saw that
you
get into
to another episode of Mostly True Alien Stories.
Neal Girandola (00:38)
Welcome back to mostly true alien stories. The podcast where we take one real reported alien encounter. We break down the facts and then decide if it's a mostly true alien story or not.
I'm Neal Girandola and with me is my co-host Andrew Triana and I know he's already loading up his debunking ammo for sure. Andrew say hello to all our aliens.
That's what you're reading their minds.
Android (01:06)
No, I'm sending them telepathic greetings. For everyone else, hello everyone. But for the aliens...
Neal Girandola (01:12)
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foreshadowing little foreshadowing in our story for today.
Hey, listen, now, before we get into our thing today, though, lots, lots been going on out out in the alien world.
there's the Buga Sphere thing happening. And there's a little bit of controversy happening. They since they had the report came out from the University of
they say the Buga Sphere is 12,560 years is a carbon dating test that they
Now there's been a lot of controversy over that because the document itself had a lot of spelling errors. was things that were
Even the, even the logo on the document from the university of Georgia is an old logo. ⁓ so not saying that it's, it's not false. Maybe some administrator, you know, put it all together and send it out, but it got to the point where
Android (02:08)
You're right.
on old letterhead.
Neal Girandola (02:17)
guess so where
where Jaime
to the airwaves yesterday he was on the on Nacho Rojo's
the yeah Verdado cult or whatever it's called
Android (02:25)
course.
You know,
And then it kind of fades out and then he starts. It's freaking brilliant. We should do something like
Neal Girandola (02:39)
we could do like mostly. Yeah, we could do that. We'll add that in. But anyway,
Android (02:43)
True!
Neal Girandola (02:52)
Masson has frustrated. So he went on he went on nachos thing because he sees he says that he's tired of everyone
over something that he believes is true alien tech.
And he says that he was he himself was surprised that it was dated to 12,560 years ago. He thought it would only be 500 to 600 years. But he went on to say
for minifera test results that were in there, he says, yeah, that's because I said this earlier to you, I believe, and we made a video on
He stated, though, that it's because it's probably was in the Great Flood or it lived in the ocean.
And that's why that has the for minifera testing on it. Those of you didn't listen to any of our podcasts, the for minifera is, uh, is a fossilized ocean life that's found in carbon dating when they carbon date
materials. So they couldn't test the metal. had to scrape resin from the thing within the grooves. tested that. And that's what came back to say that it's, you know, 12,560 years old.
Android (03:55)
You know, yeah, that's just
to make it easier for people to understand, it's sea monkeys. Sea monkeys. Yeah, those are sea monkeys to ship. They crashed here and that's how we were able to get them and put them in our little tanks to keep them as pets. Thousands, millions of them, millions, just millions of them came in the 70s. It's
Neal Girandola (04:01)
Yeah, they say found sea monkeys.
That's right. That's right. It all came from. Yeah. Yeah.
But my point
of Jaime Masson coming onto this podcast, I get it. He's defending the machine and listen, it may be alien tech. could be, it could be. The problem is there's a couple of things. He also said
he defended the test, but he said.
He threw Steven Greer under the bus and he said, well, it was it's Steven Greer that's handling all of this.
Steven Greer that set up the testing that Steven Greer that found the place to get it tested. And he's the one who delivered the message of the 12,560 years. So he kind of threw him under the bus, but he defended the test, but he's, think he's kind of protecting himself because if this thing goes south, I'm a Steven Greer is going to be holding the bag.
Android (04:58)
⁓ Well, Greer did.
Yeah. Well, he won't be because he'll give it to Flippy, his little alien friend, and he'll fix it. He'll do a flasher thing like men in black and everyone will forget. ⁓ no, I just find the whole thing just fricking hilarious because the chances of a letter coming
Neal Girandola (05:05)
Yeah, I'm sick of it. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Android (05:17)
from the university, from any university with the wrong letter head and misspellings. Come on.
Neal Girandola (05:24)
Even sentence structuring was weird. Like there was a sentence, you know, the ver- the way it was sentenced.
Android (05:27)
Yeah, yeah, because
it was probably written in chat GPT.
Neal Girandola (05:31)
Well, listen,
and here's and Jaime, if you're listening to this, here's my advice. Yeah, come on our shows one but to
Android (05:36)
Come on our show.
Neal Girandola (05:40)
stop being the guy who's giving us all the information. It's only coming from Greer and you let University of Georgia get on and go holy shit, we found something that this was dated 12,500 six years ago. Here's the chain of custody of the sample we took it from
Android (05:43)
Yeah, well.
Right.
Neal Girandola (05:56)
His office, we bagged it. NASA officials were there. We did all this. We transferred it. We, you know, it was all took it into the thing. We tested it. And this is what we found. We can't believe it. Not nobody, no experts are coming out and saying this is valid. And that's the problem. And I so want this to be real. I want this to be alien
Android (06:09)
Ending it, or in any way, right.
as.
Neal Girandola (06:16)
I would have had all the experts saying, yeah, this is true. No, this is not true. This is true.
Android (06:21)
Well,
where's Greer in all this? Why doesn't Greer come out and say this is true or this is not true? He's silent too!
Neal Girandola (06:22)
This is not true.
Well, well,
but no, no, but the thing is to me, Greer and that whole group, they attach themselves to this very quickly. And I think almost too quickly, but now Greer's doubling down. Jaime's doubling down with this whole carbon dating thing. And, you know, but Jaime did throw Greer under the bus. So we'll see where this goes. It's pretty interesting story. I really do want it to be true. And I will say this to
Android (06:34)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (06:51)
those that believe in the sphere.
It's sacrilegious for us to be even speculating that this thing is not
is the one story I've run into where people defend this to the end. It's like politics, man. It's like really, really scary.
Android (07:06)
Yeah, doesn't, you know, that and
we're just being open for discussion here, but what has been presented to us does not prove anything. It doesn't prove that it's alien tech. It proves nothing. It proves absolutely nothing. So that's my opinion, which was worth nothing, but.
Neal Girandola (07:15)
I'm not convinced yet. Yeah. Yeah.
Sure. Sure. I mean,
listen, I'm I've right now and I again, I'm hopeful that this is real. I haven't seen anything yet. That is, is hard facts that says, yeah, this is this is real. But anyway, alright, so the other thing too,
Android (07:38)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (07:40)
you see that ⁓ the the asteroid that's heading the meteor or whatever it is that's heading towards the moon giant?
Android (07:45)
It's a giant asteroid, dude.
It's a city killer is what they call it. City killer.
Neal Girandola (07:49)
But but NASA is now deciding
whether they're going to send a nuclear warhead up there to blow it out of the frickin
Android (07:56)
yeah to
Neal Girandola (07:57)
Well, there's this theory if they're
if they're protecting the moon like that, maybe the moon is hollow. Maybe there are bases. Maybe there are aliens living there.
Android (08:02)
⁓
No, there's bases
Neal Girandola (08:06)
Why else would you do this? It's not going to do anything. I mean, it will. Yes, it'll be a huge explosion, but I don't think I mean, will it?
Android (08:08)
Yeah, there's no cities.
It won't even
be an explosion. It'll just be like thump dust. There's nothing on the moon except for the secret city. It's a city killer. So what Manhattan is what the island is what two miles long, something like that. The island of Manhattan. It's not very long, know, or long Island. Think about that. It's that size coming at you.
Neal Girandola (08:17)
Be sure how big is it? Do we know?
Yeah.
I like the idea
that they're protecting the moon because the moon's hollow and moon is weird and the moon has base camps and all this other shit.
Android (08:43)
hollow we never drilled into it
Neal Girandola (08:45)
I don't know. But you know, the old, you know, the bell ringing, that bell ringing story where they, you know, they, ⁓ I don't know, they did the hit it with something and then it vibrated abnormally.
Android (08:45)
Did we even go to the moon?
Yeah. Yeah, cause
yeah, cause yeah.
Neal Girandola (09:01)
I'll tell you what, that's where this is headed. People are going to start all the conspiracies are going to come out that he ever protected the moon because it is hollow. Why, why are we sending nuclear warhead up there to try to blast this thing? Although I would love to see this hat. I would love to see NASA. I would love that to be a successful test for them to shoot a warhead up there and, and knock a meteor or an asteroid out of the sky.
Android (09:22)
But would it actually explode? Would it explode?
I don't think it would even explode. Yeah. Nothing explodes in space. Yeah. Only if there's oxygen inside a container, that will explode. But the thing's not going to explode. There's no air. There's no oxygen.
Neal Girandola (09:26)
In space? Yeah, why? That's not true.
didn't you watch
Android (09:42)
Armageddon.
Neal Girandola (09:43)
didn't you watch Armageddon
Android (09:45)
Yeah, that's called a fake Hollywood movie.
Neal Girandola (09:47)
No, that's based on truth.
Yeah, I don't know. Does do do will a nuclear warhead explode in space? I mean, I'm gonna look it up. I'm looking at shit
Android (09:56)
I don't...
Neal Girandola (09:58)
Yes, nuclear warhead would detonate and release its energy in space, but differently than on
Instead of a fireball and shockwave, this is what you mean. A space detonation would create a large burst of electromagnetic radiation, a high altitude electromagnetic pulse and charge particles, which can severely damage or destroy satellites.
and disrupt electronics in orbit and on the ground. that's that would really fuck a lot of show. You have a question. You have a question.
Android (10:27)
Yeah.
Have they ever tested it? Like, think about Oppenheim and when they tested that nuclear device, nobody knew what was going to happen. They didn't know what the chain reaction was going to be. So, but let's, we've never done it, but let's do it.
Neal Girandola (10:36)
Yeah, no idea. Yeah.
Well, here's the thing. It does say here that it would, it would potentially lead to catastrophic impacts on global communications and navigation systems. So let's not do this. Let's not do this. Let's let's just, yeah, just let it, let it go. But which, which leads to my theory, which brings more weight to it there. Why do it? If it's good, it could lead to catastrophic problems down here.
Android (10:53)
So NASA, don't do it. Just let the rock hit. You can rebuild. You can rebuild on the moon.
Neal Girandola (11:10)
because they need to protect the moon because it's hollow and they got alien bases up there
Android (11:13)
Elon Musk has a house there.
Neal Girandola (11:15)
And we're living in a simulation and Elon Musk lives up there. He's like, I'm heading home for the day. Yeah. Make sure they don't blow up the fricking satellite up there or whatever. All right. All right. Well, anyway, all interesting stuff. I, I'm gonna keep our eyes on all of these things.
Android (11:21)
Peace out.
Neal Girandola (11:37)
you, ready for today's case? It takes us back to the early 1950s, Andrew to the icy waters of Newfoundland.
Android (11:41)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (11:44)
Canada and the story of a US Air Force officer whose entire job was to tell the world UFOs were not real until one day he just couldn't.
Android (11:56)
What?
Neal Girandola (11:57)
Yep. Yep. All right. This is early 1950s. It took place in St. John's, New Finland,
Our lead character here in this report is Lieutenant Colonel Richard French. And he is the lead investigator for Project Blue Book ⁓ from the US Air Force.
Now, Colonel French wasn't just a some random witness. He was the guy they sent to kill stories.
As one of project blue books lead investigators, his orders were
Debunk UFO sightings, no matter what the evidence
Now blue book, for those of you who aren't, are not aware, it was the U S air forces official UFO investigation program. And it ran from 1952 to 1969.
Their mission wasn't to prove aliens
was exactly the opposite. It was to explain away any reports.
Every sighting got filed, it got categorized and in most cases just dismissed as like weather balloons or aircraft or misidentifications.
during an investigation in Newfoundland, French claims, he saw something that flipped his world upside
Now, Richard French was a career air force officer. He was a, he was disciplined.
he's by the book kind of
To me adds more substance to this story. In the early fifties, when UFO sighting started spiking the air force needed investigators who could handle sensitive assignments, ⁓ without losing their cool and French was apparently one of those,
Now French said two UFOs had been reported entering the waters near St. John's Harbor and his job was going to be easy that day. He's just going to confirm it was a hoax and write the report and move on with his day, except.
He said he saw
with his own eyes. And here's what he described when he arrived to the scene. He said he saw two craft. They were circular submerged just beneath the water surface and floating a few feet below.
He estimated each craft's diameter at about 18 feet and a thickness, meaning the height of roughly three
were located not far from the shore. So only about 20 feet away. That's not far at all.
and spaced a few feet apart.
And the water was fairly clear. So French claimed it allowed him to see the details on the underside of the craft as well. And then as for the aliens that were on these
he said that were working on the crafts, he said, French said the aliens were about two to three feet tall. They were light gray in color, very thin, long arms.
Their heads were described as wider at the top than at the jawline with slanted eyes from which he claimed he couldn't discern pupils.
Android (14:42)
Yeah,
just black,
like the grays, like we always see the grays. They were in scuba gear though. They had the scuba suit on.
Neal Girandola (14:44)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I didn't know that sorry we'll get to this. Their arms in his words had ⁓ either two or three fingers he wasn't he wasn't certain and he emphasized their movements were deliberate and mechanical. They weren't floating aimlessly and occasionally one of the aliens would reposition to the side of the craft so that part of it was visible and French said he could see them through the water moving underwater
and then he claimed
that at one point one craft began to rise breaking through the water surface at about 100 miles per hour. And then it accelerated to an estimated 2500 to 3000 miles per
as it disappeared. And then roughly 20 minutes later, both crafts returned and slowed. They reentered the water and resumed the repair work scenario before departing again. So I guess they were
working on whatever the problem was and then they had to go, you know, test it and then bring it back to continue working on it. But this is where it gets, I don't even think that's right. This is where it even gets even stranger.
At the time French buried the story, right? So he, he just said it was nothing and his assignment demanded it. So as we mentioned earlier, Project Blue Book, there weren't there again to find UFOs. was just, they just got a
you know, explain them away and French had a reputation for doing exactly that.
But now here we are decades later in 2012. And they're at the citizen hearing on disclosure in Washington,
And Richard French finally went public. And he told the world, yes, UFOs are real. I saw one underwater. I saw its occupants and I was ordered to keep it
So now now, everybody's stunned by this
Because here was
This guy is not a farmer, not a fisherman. He's not, you know, he's not a, not a random civilian by any means. He's a U S air force Colonel. And he's standing in front of cameras and lawmakers saying he wants witnessed to extraterrestrial extraterrestrials repairing a submerged craft, kind of like the first whistleblower, I
So of course, skeptics are immediately are immediately pointing out that French French's later years were filled with these colorful stories and they claimed he exaggerated.
Others questioned his memory.
but for the believers, of course, his credibility as a blue book insider gave his testimony serious weight. So what do we do with this one, Andrew? Because here's a man whose job was literally to debunk UFOs. ends up confessing and decades later that he saw one not in the skies, but beneath the sea witnessed them working on it. I want to know, do you think this, if this is a mostly true alien story or not?
I'm sure you are loaded up. You've got some more information. You're going to weigh in as we usually do. And folks, we'd like to have you comment in on whether you think this is a mostly true alien story or not. All right, Andrew, I know you're already shaking your head, but what's your take on this?
Android (17:41)
All right.
Alright,
so just a little bit more history. ⁓ He was lieutenant colonel. was a lieutenant colonel. He was a former a former F1 fighter pilot and he fought in Korea and in Vietnam. Yeah, it's huge, right? So this is a legit. This is like someone that has probably seen a lot of stuff in his life. Okay.
Neal Girandola (18:06)
Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Android (18:08)
He was known as the king of the debunking. Basically.
Neal Girandola (18:11)
they called him the king? They
Android (18:12)
The king, baby. The king, right? Okay, so he... No, it was 1950. They didn't do that. They didn't have the
Neal Girandola (18:12)
called him the king. I wonder if he had a t-shirt that king of debunking. King of debunking.
Android (18:20)
garage where they had the iron on.
Neal Girandola (18:23)
Listen, ⁓ folks, I'm going to make a t-shirt says King of debunking. Yeah, Andrew gets it.
Android (18:27)
Okay.
So he was in state, he was stationed in Germany when he got a call from OSI director, ⁓ telling him, Hey, you need to go to Newfoundland. There's been seeing some stuff there. want you to go there and check it out.
Neal Girandola (18:45)
Okay, so it's a call that came in as usually does a call comes in, they assign the king of debunking to head on over there and check it out.
Android (18:47)
right. Right. Right.
Okay. So he said he went to Newfoundland, right? And they took him to the area where there was a crowd of people, a crowd of people. He said there were at least a hundred people out on this dock in the middle of the water. Police officers, people from the town, not just him. So they never described like, all right folks, get back, you know,
Neal Girandola (19:07)
looking and
Yep.
Android (19:17)
Lieutenant colonel's here. Back up. Back up. They didn't say they did any of that, right? They just said that there was a he just said that there was a ton of people there.
Neal Girandola (19:24)
Well, I'm sure he shows up incognito in a sense. I mean, he probably walks on, you know, the dock. mean, it's not his he's sent. He sent to investigate, but there are definitely other law enforcement involved. There's probably, you know, town sheriff, whatever people are there. But, you know, it's not like he comes in guns blazing lights on all that stuff. So get back. King of the bunkings here.
Android (19:44)
Get out! So, so,
so it was a, ⁓ actually it wasn't a dock, I'm sorry. It was a dwarf. They were out on a war, right? A lot of people. He said they also had divers in the water.
Neal Girandola (19:54)
Right. Right. Yeah.
Wait a minute. There were already investigating this.
Android (20:03)
There were divers in the water already
trying to investigate this. And I guess he probably got the, the divers out of the water, got everybody out of the water. And, um, all of this is based on a testimony that he gave in 2013, which I'll give it a little bit to description like that, but I'm going to talk about what he said he saw. He said the water was crystal clear, absolutely crystal clear. said it wouldn't have mattered if it was 200 feet.
Neal Girandola (20:27)
Yeah.
Android (20:33)
2000 feet, 20 feet.
Neal Girandola (20:34)
Hmm. Makes a big,
that makes a big difference. I mean, you can see. Yeah.
Android (20:39)
⁓
he said it's
crystal clear and there were two submerged saucers, right? He said he didn't see anything other than the two saucers for awhile. And then he saw two guys swimming to occupants. called them occupants. Never said aliens, never said aliens, right?
Neal Girandola (20:57)
He didn't say, he never said aliens, right? Never mentioned aliens.
Just to do. Could have been to anything.
Android (21:04)
Right. Right. It could have been two divers to the divers that were down there swimming around. Right. He said, it looked like they were doing something to the craft. Okay.
Neal Girandola (21:08)
Sure.
I wonder who the divers
were though. Were they like legit, Coast Guard?
Android (21:16)
Well, that's the thing, you I tried to find testimony,
witnesses that came forward to say they saw the ships, none of that. Absolutely none of that. That's why I'm questioning whether there were a hundred people there or not.
Neal Girandola (21:26)
No, no.
Okay. Yeah. Cause usually a hundred people you'd have a list of names, right? Or you take a, but again, you don't know because remember he's there to debunk it. That, that information may have been washed.
Android (21:32)
You at least
Right,
right, but I mean, come on, somebody would have come forward by now to say, saw it. That's all right. Nothing. Not a couple. Nothing, nothing. Everything just focuses on what Lieutenant Colonel Richard French said. Right.
Neal Girandola (21:46)
Okay, so you didn't find anything not one not a couple nothing. Okay. What he said. Okay.
Android (21:56)
the, the ships were down there, right? He said, ⁓ he looked at them.
the ⁓ two little guys swimming around came up closer to the surface, they were just closer on the top side of the ship. He said, then the ship, a door opened. Okay. One of the guys went in. The other guy swam off.
Neal Girandola (22:01)
The UFOs, the UFOs. Yeah.
Yeah.
It's not a big they're not big saucers either. They weren't big. mean, I think they're described. Okay, 18 feet. Okay, yeah. I mean,
Android (22:27)
18 feet?
18 feet. That's, I mean, it's
two cars put together. A bus. No. Okay. Three feet.
Neal Girandola (22:36)
sure. Yeah, not very high.
Yeah, I mean, 18 feet by three feet. That's not a lot.
Android (22:45)
Well, they guys are only three feet tall, if they're sitting half, they're only.
Neal Girandola (22:49)
I'm just saying it's not very big
Android (22:51)
Maybe they fly laying down.
Neal Girandola (22:54)
Those just, guess it's the compact model of UFOs, right? There's a better mileage. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's right. They were testing it. ⁓ Yeah. Crazy aliens come down to crazy aliens. You get the best deal on this saucer. Crazy Ray alien. All right.
Android (23:00)
Right, was the first time, that's why it crashed. That's why it was in the water. They were testing it, then they were like, hey, I wonder if we got a good sale here. Come on down to Crazy Ray's Alias. We got sausage for you.
I'm crazy Ray.
So,
the door opens, goes in the ship and he said, started lifting. Yep. Just one. The one swam away.
Neal Girandola (23:25)
Wait, the alien goes back in the ship door opens. He goes in the ship. Did the door shut?
Android (23:30)
And the freaking thing started moving and then shot out of the water.
Neal Girandola (23:35)
Hmm. It went in the air. I thought it stayed in the water. Went in the air. Hmm. Wow. That's cool.
Android (23:39)
No, it went in the air above the water and disappeared.
Disappeared and he said 20 minutes later, which is what you had reported 20 minutes later, it comes back at 2500 miles per hour and then slows to basically a stop and then enters the water. Then the thing opens up again. guess there's still a ripple in the water, right? Still ripple happening.
Neal Girandola (23:50)
Mm-hmm. It returns.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Android (24:09)
Ripple's happening, he skits.
Neal Girandola (24:10)
I the only way it could
open is if it's on the surface. right? I mean, they're not opening underwater.
Android (24:15)
they
have, they're opening underwater, under the water. That's alien tech, bro.
Neal Girandola (24:18)
Well, how do they keep the water out?
Okay, that explains it. explains it. Okay. Yeah, that explains. No, that explains it. Yeah, it's all you got. You know, you only have to say. Yeah, yeah, was funny. That could be the answer or anything. How does that work? Alien tech? Okay. All right. I accept that. Okay.
Android (24:26)
Definitely alien tech, I'm getting that. Our producers are talking to me right now. They're telling me it's definitely alien tech.
Alien's back. Right. Hey,
I've got a callus on my toe. How do I get that off? Sweet. See? OK. So he said the guy swam out again. The other guy swam back. They did some more stuff. The only two that he saw. Door opens back inside and both ships. Pew. Gone.
Neal Girandola (24:43)
Alien tech.
took off in the sky again. From the water to the sky.
Android (25:03)
in the sky, from the
water to the sky.
Neal Girandola (25:07)
That's cool. OK. Yeah.
Android (25:10)
Okay.
That's the full account of everything that, that he, that he talked about. now.
Neal Girandola (25:13)
Sure. Sure. Anybody
but he also you know he did did he saw these aliens he described them what they look like.
Android (25:22)
he described
them, he said they were three feet tall, they were gray, they had black eyes. He said it was everything that you thought an alien would look like, whatever that means, that we know of, because he talked about this in 2013 is when he came, he came clean. So since his job was to explain everything, everything away,
Neal Girandola (25:25)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Yeah,
Yeah. Right, right.
Android (25:49)
Right? Nothing was going to be true.
Neal Girandola (25:50)
Mm hmm. Yeah,
he has to debunk it. That's what that was his job at blue blue book there. You I don't care if the alien comes up and taps you on the forehead. You're going to say it was it was not an alien. Yeah,
Android (25:56)
Right, right.
Right. You're going to say that it's not an alien, right?
Neal Girandola (26:04)
it's not an alien.
Android (26:04)
So,
so in 2013, a former FAA official and private commercial and military pilots got together with a former, with former congressmen at the national press club in DC to hold a mock congressional committee.
Neal Girandola (26:24)
It's one of the first disclosure
meetings kind of things. Right.
Android (26:25)
Yes, yes, to discuss and disclose
the strange UAPs and what they had witnessed and bring disclosure to the masses, guess, to this event. was, it was called the citizen hearing on disclosure. And this is similar to what, ⁓ Greer did a few years ago when he got all the guys together, right? Right. So
Neal Girandola (26:35)
Yeah, yeah, it's one of the earlier days of that. ⁓ Yes. ⁓
Right. Mm hmm. And this was
this is on tape or video too, right? Didn't they? Yeah, it's all video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this was the first time we're hearing his story. Is this
Android (26:52)
it's all videoed. Yeah, it's all video of him talking there, right? And he said, right, now this is
gonna blow your mind. The reason why he was there was because all the other people that were testifying in this, all were believers.
Neal Girandola (27:09)
Mm-hmm.
So what do mean? they needed a novel. They needed a non believer there.
Android (27:12)
believers of UFOs.
I guess they brought him in to be the debunker. And then he ended up turning that upside down because he came in as a believer. Yeah. Because think about this, all those military people, right? In the military, you would normally be discredited or mocked. Think about back in the fifties. If, if he had come, if he had come forward and said, guys, I know you sent me there, but it's a real ship.
Neal Girandola (27:25)
⁓ okay.
Yeah, in 2012. Yeah, back then, especially.
Yeah, they probably gave him so much shit. They probably gave they probably gave him so much crap and and pressured him to hide this. All right, go ahead.
Android (27:43)
It's real freaking shit, right?
Yep. Yep.
So he said
in his report, when he went back to tell them what he saw, I love this. said, I weasel worded it.
Neal Girandola (27:59)
Mm-hmm.
He weasel worded it. That's what he said. That was his quote. Yeah. Right. Yeah. He's hardcore. Lieutenant Colonel French. She died. You listen, I had to weasel word this.
Android (28:04)
He weasel worded it. Yeah. If you heard this guy talk, he'd talk, he talked like that. Right. He's like, weasel worded it. Right. yeah. Right.
He said that what he described to them was a foreign or unrecognizable vehicle.
And that was his way of debunking it.
Neal Girandola (28:28)
Yeah, it's interesting. Because why didn't he just write something like? No, no,
Android (28:32)
spaceship to aliens flying away.
Neal Girandola (28:34)
What's the type of people that live out in Newfoundland? Sort of like Eskimos? Yeah, but not Eskimos. They call
Android (28:42)
Right. No, I know what you're talking about. I don't know what they're called, but yeah.
They were under the water with one of their canoes that had turned over and they were patching the hole on the canoe. It was unrecognizable in a foreign vehicle. Hey, that sounds pretty good, right?
Neal Girandola (28:58)
That sounds really good.
Inuit.
Android (29:00)
The Inuit people.
Neal Girandola (29:01)
Yeah, I mean, he could have because they work on these small. They work on these small crafts.
Android (29:05)
right?
Neal Girandola (29:06)
you know, they're native to that area. wear
Eskimo hoods and big Jack and they rain their little people and they wear those goggles. They wear those wooden carved goggles with slits in the eyes.
Android (29:12)
Right, would be not, and they weren't big people, they were little people.
Neal Girandola (29:20)
I mean, could ⁓ mix in a canoe, maybe.
Android (29:20)
So they're under the water fixing a canoe.
Neal Girandola (29:25)
Maybe anyway, I don't mean to interrupt, but, like, why not write that instead of instead? What did he say?
Android (29:30)
He said it was a foreign unrecognizable vehicle. That's it. And then he weasel worded it. I was awarded. That's what he said. So I, I listened to the interview with this guy, this guy, he, he, this guy won me over because he was fricking hilarious. They were asking him questions and he was like, they were like,
Neal Girandola (29:34)
That's it. That's it, man. He did word weasel that he word weaseled that. Weasel.
Ahem.
Yeah.
Android (29:55)
Would you say that you saw a UFO? And he's like, you goddamn right I did. And I was like, dang, right.
Neal Girandola (30:00)
Wow. Wow. You need me on that wall.
Yeah. Okay.
Android (30:08)
You can't handle the UFOs!
Neal Girandola (30:12)
truth.
Android (30:14)
You can't handle the UFOs and the truth, boy!
Neal Girandola (30:16)
I want,
why, you know, it was also a good opportunity for him to share other reports that were, debunked that he possibly thought could have been real.
Android (30:25)
He said this.
He said this wasn't the first UFO that he saw. He said he saw several UFOs. He said he even saw a UFO fly into a volcano. Yeah. And then fly out. He didn't say where. He didn't say where.
Neal Girandola (30:30)
Let's go.
⁓ Did he say where?
mean, that's like whistle blowing stuff right there. That's one of the first whistle blowers. wonder he was he, did he ever feel threatened? ⁓ All the whistle blowers today feel threatened.
Android (30:49)
No, no. So, you have to, you have
to remember man that, that if he had come out earlier, they would have, they would have destroyed his career. They would have discredited him. They would have done all of that. And the reason why he came out in 2013 was he's like, I'm 83 years old. I don't give a shit. 83. He said, I don't give a shit. I'm going to tell it all. That's what he said. And I was like,
Neal Girandola (31:02)
Yeah. Right.
He was 83.
Good for him. Good for him.
Android (31:19)
Dang, way to go. Way to freaking go. So
Neal Girandola (31:20)
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Android (31:24)
a freaking war hero as a pilot, you know? And I think it sucks that here they create Project Blue Book, right? And we hear about Project Blue Book and we think that Project Blue Book is a good thing.
Neal Girandola (31:27)
Mm-hmm.
Android (31:37)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (31:37)
during blue book, we
had no idea they were it was nefarious. They were what they were doing was protecting the UFO conversation. They're protecting the anything they may have had on aliens. They were keeping that a secret.
Android (31:40)
And again, yeah, here we go.
Yep. Yep.
He said he had seen lots of stuff, but this one stood out the most to him because he was close to it. And he saw it right on. He saw it like basically on the front lines.
Neal Girandola (31:55)
Mm.
Yeah, right.
Android (32:05)
And it's fascinating that they brought up this hearing ⁓ that, that they, that just so happened in 2013.
Neal Girandola (32:05)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Android (32:15)
all these guys got together and said, come on, we've got to, now's our chance to talk. Now's our chance to come forward and tell everybody these things are real. Right. And they said, we're going to bring in, tell you what we're going to do. We're going to bring in Lieutenant Colonel Richard French, who was the king of debunking. We're going to ask him to come to these, to this mock trial or mock committee meeting.
Neal Girandola (32:21)
No.
Yeah. Yeah.
Mm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Android (32:39)
and let's hear what he has to say about UFOs. And
then he gets there and he tells them they're
Neal Girandola (32:45)
organized that? Do know we have the name?
Android (32:46)
They, I couldn't get
names on it. They just said that it was the, ⁓ a former FAA off official and private commercial and military pilots. That put this thing together and some former Congress people, apparently, you know, I mean, it's a big thing was at the national press club in DC. mean, that's a big, this is, this is huge.
Neal Girandola (32:55)
Okay.
Yeah. Okay.
That's been.
Yeah. Yeah.
Android (33:07)
This is huge. Now,
went on to do an article ⁓ with the Huffington Post, but that was released in 2017, where he talked just basically the same thing that you and I have talked about. ⁓ He did elaborate a little bit more, and that's why these guys are saying, dude, he's old, look, he's changing his story. They're trying to discredit him.
Neal Girandola (33:20)
Yeah.
change their story doesn't
Android (33:30)
They forget about his military background.
And that
he's a veteran. They forget all about that stuff because it's not what you did for me yesterday. It's what you can do for me today.
Neal Girandola (33:40)
It is interesting. ⁓ But I would I would lean into a guy like that. At his age. I can buy into that. Yeah, I can buy into that. So but we I don't again, we don't know what his mental capacity was. But ⁓
Android (33:50)
I'd trust him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
No, he was like,
oh look, a butterfly.
Neal Girandola (34:02)
And he didn't write a book. He didn't do anything to make money. He wasn't getting paid for appearances. He wasn't doing any of that stuff. So what is he? Just attention? I don't think so.
Android (34:05)
Right.
Right.
No, no, dude, come on, he's 83 years old. He doesn't need any attention at this point in his life. Yeah. So.
Neal Girandola (34:19)
No, no, wants to be left alone. Actually. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. So are you, you have any more you want to add to this story? Are you ready to weigh in on whether this is a mostly true alien story or not? All right, Andrew, why don't you weigh in and let us know and the public know whether you think this is a mostly true alien story based on all the information we have heard today.
Android (34:28)
I'm ready to weigh in. I'm ready to weigh in.
I am going to say this. Yes, it is a mostly true alien story.
Neal Girandola (34:50)
Wow, not like not like there's no question you're saying no question. This is mostly true. This is aliens. This is alien. You're you're saying this he walked up.
Android (34:57)
There's always a question. There's no photos.
There's no photos or nothing. There's no other witnesses that we know of other than his testimony, other than he said there was 100 people there. And there could have been just 15 people there. Maybe at 83, he's elaborating. But I can't believe that nobody else in that whole area didn't see this. It was on a wharf.
Neal Girandola (35:04)
There's no other witnesses that we know of.
Mm-hmm.
Android (35:19)
They just didn't come forward because they're scared. Think about it. It's the fifties. You're to come forward and say, I saw an alien ship or as a Canadian government working with the U S government to say, if you say you saw anything, we'll kill you. We'll burn your farm to the ground. They won't find you. We've heard that before. We've heard that before.
Neal Girandola (35:34)
Well, I mean that that's it.
You know, you go back to 1950 and something like this came up and a government agency like blue book comes in and they have all the connections. They have all, they can grab all the Intel. can wipe you, your name and any
anything off the face of the earth. They have sheep, dip you, and they can get, they can go to that local police and say, you know, those reports, they didn't exist. Let's get rid of them. Any names you have that are involved in this, we get rid of that and we move on with our day. And, you know, back in 1950, that's, that's what could very easily have happened. I mean, it could happen today too, but I think easier back
Android (35:52)
Sheep dip, sheep dip.
Right, didn't exist.
Neal Girandola (36:15)
uh, blue book was probably scary agency is probably, you know, they, they show up and.
We're going to investigate this. We need everything you got. What do you got? Yeah. So we're to make stuff
Android (36:21)
Yeah, probably people disappear,
Neal Girandola (36:25)
all right. So you say it is a mostly true alien story.
Android (36:27)
Yeah. I, I,
gotta tell you, I listened to the recordings of this guy's testimony and dude, I, like, I love this guy. He's fricking hilarious. He is fricking
he's talking with such, he wasn't talking like a crazy person. You know, he was like, Oh my God, he's like, I saw a ship.
Neal Girandola (36:42)
Mm-hmm.
Android (36:48)
I saw two things. Now, the only thing I questioned him on, this is why I'm like, yeah, it's mostly true, but there's still some stuff in here that's like, how did he know that ship was traveling at 2,500 miles per hour?
Neal Girandola (37:00)
Now he was a he was in the air. He was a pilot in the Air Force. He understands speed and he understands. I think he's got a sense for it. And I think probably as the years go on, maybe that assessment increased in his mind, you know.
Android (37:01)
He was a pilot. I get it. I get it.
Right. Right.
And so when they asked him questions too, when they said, how deep in the water were the two crafts? And he was like, they were 20 feet. It was like 20 feet. long way in the water. How could you see in the water? And he was like, it was crystal clear. He said, it wouldn't have made any difference if it was 200 or 2000 feet. I still could have seen it.
Neal Girandola (37:33)
Yeah.
Well, when you're
on a
I'm wondering, I thought he meant they're 20 feet out from the beach or from the
He's saying they're 20 feet deep, but how far out were they from that he could see how
Android (37:50)
They were literally
right off wherever that beach was that was close by. They were out on the wharf. I'm not sure how big wharfs are. You know, I think of the dock in Jaws and the two guys trying to with the rump roasts trying to get the shark.
Neal Girandola (37:57)
That's what I mean, like I don't fully understand that because if I'm looking out
Right. If I was because I was imagining it by his description that I'm kind of up higher than I'm looking down at them. And they're literally 20 feet away from me in the water crystal clear water. So that's my that's how I envisioned it. But I guess we'll never really know exactly what that description
you say it is a mostly true alien story. I loved all the details you filled in. and I'm, I did not see or hear the videos or the audio tape of his testimony during that.
just from the details that you shared with me in this, the report is I had read it. I am also going to say that this is a mostly true alien story, but
Android (38:50)
We agree.
Neal Girandola (38:51)
I, but,
but what I want to point out is I think because you are, you are always a non-believer of this stuff. I'm wondering if you are more influenced because you were able to have a personal experience connection with him because of that. I, I'm wondering if that influenced you more,
Android (39:03)
connection with him. Yeah, probably.
Neal Girandola (39:08)
because that this kind of story, we've heard these kinds of crazy stories before and we didn't have any audio or video and you were immediately like, yeah, this is bullshit. So I, you know, I'm just wondering if that influenced you in any way.
Android (39:16)
Right. Right. Well,
you know, it's funny that you say that because I felt the same way about Pusk-a-Ula, right? That something happened to those guys. I don't know whether it was alien or not, but something definitely happened to those guys because I had audio recording. Right. But then again, we had audio recording of Betty and Barney Hill too, and I didn't believe that one. No.
Neal Girandola (39:24)
Yeah.
You had audio. You had audio recording. Yeah. So you were able to actually feel it.
You didn't believe that one.
That's true. I did. I did. Yeah. All right. Well, I think this is a great story because I love the whole idea of these two ships being worked on. mean, there's some there's some details that ⁓ I don't fully understand. It is so cool. They took off. I do not think that it was the in in you. It's I don't think it was them working on anything.
Android (39:40)
So just saying.
No, I think that's so freaking cool.
Neal Girandola (40:01)
And I, I do believe that all the witnesses there were just erased from the files, not from life, but from the files. And, ⁓ you know, that was just squashed after that.
Andrew, say it is a mostly true alien story. So do I. And there you have it folks. It's a project blue book investigator who spent years shutting down UFO reports.
until his own eyes saw something he could not explain. Andrew and I have weighed in. But what do you guys think was Colonel French
who was on the
next to a hundred people telling the truth about what he saw underwater that day? Or is this just another story that's grown taller with time? Drop your thoughts in the comments. And while you're here, hit subscribe and share this with someone who loves a mystery that doesn't stay.
buried. We'll be
next week with another true alien report and we want to find out if that is mostly true or not. Until then,
be kind to the aliens when they get here. Bye, Andrew.
Android (41:07)
Bye, Neal.