Neal Girandola (00:00)
In 1969, man stepped onto the moon. But what
weren't the first ones there?
reports of dome structures on the lunar surface to NASA footage showing shadows that shouldn't exist
seismic readings that made scientists
moon rang like a
Some claim it's
others that it's artificial, and a
alien bases are still up there
going to the
special return
thinks
faked the moon landing.
Will he
you
get into
to another episode of Mostly True
Alien Stories.
Neal Girandola (00:50)
Welcome back to mostly true alien stories It is the show where we take a real report or claim of an alien encounter We lay out the facts and then we're gonna decide whether it is a mostly true alien story or not I am Neil gyrandola
Joined by my co-host, the guy who's been debunking aliens since before the internet had comment sections, Andrew Triana. Hi, Andrew.
Android (01:15)
⁓ Neil? How's it going?
Neal Girandola (01:17)
Good I love your new sweatshirt that Pokemon ⁓ You were so cute I'm excited for you, you know
Android (01:19)
Thanks. It's Pokemon. It's look, it's Pikachu in a little hula skirt.
Neal Girandola (01:27)
Today Andrew we're heading about 238,900 miles away to be precise all the way to the moon where for decades scientists Skeptics and true believers have all wrestled one question is the moon natural?
Don Sill (01:28)
Ha
Neal Girandola (01:46)
or something else entirely. And we ain't going to do it alone because our guest today is no stranger to a good
or a good argument, I would say. You might remember him from our Phoenix Lights episode, where somehow we actually convinced him that one might be mostly true. Although I think he said it
But I think he called me later and said he thinks he made a mistake. That's for sure. He's the host of the hit podcast Conversations. He's a story.
Android (02:04)
He said it wasn't, he agreed with me.
Neal Girandola (02:13)
Teller, a filmmaker,
and we've turned him into a professional
this time we're taking him someplace he's really not sure we've ever been to, the
So alien bases, hollow theories, hidden caves, he better get ready for this one.
It's the one guy who still thinks the whole thing might be a movie set. Please welcome back our friend Don Sill. Hi, Don.
Don Sill (02:34)
up Neil and Andrew and everyone watching? How's everybody doing today? This is awesome man. I I love talking the moon a lot of a lot of big things going on with the moon these days.
Neal Girandola (02:43)
know I asked you this last time, but has anything changed in your opinion in terms of ⁓ extraterrestrial life on other planets in your view? What is your take on that? Remind our listeners as to what you think about this.
Don Sill (02:56)
I still believe that there are other life forms out there that has to be and maybe even living among us.
there's some people that just are questionable when you look at them, you're like, this has to be a lizard. But other than that, I do believe that there are, that there has to be other life forms. just think it just the universe is too ⁓ enormous for us to be the only living forms on there. And, you know, and then we're seeing evidence perhaps on other
Neal Girandola (03:09)
Ha ha ha!
Don Sill (03:23)
planets and other places that may have been or still can be life on other planets. So yeah, I believe in that. And as far as the moon goes,
I still think the first landing was a hoax. That's my personal feelings. It's very hard to... But...
Neal Girandola (03:38)
That was going to be my next question. You still think that?
Android (03:40)
So Apollo
11 didn't happen.
Don Sill (03:43)
Right, but I think 12 and on may have, I don't think they're all were faked. But I feel like the first one, just because of political reasons, I think they had to rush it and make it happen. I just think the motive is the key reason why they had to do it. But then four months later.
Neal Girandola (04:00)
Donna, someone from the government,
someone from the government sitting behind you right now. Is that why you're, you've changed your tune a little bit here? I feel like, ⁓ I feel like he's, I feel like you're covering some bases here since our last episode. You were on the Phoenix lights episode that we did. And by the way, that was, ⁓ that's one up to date is one of our highest viewed episodes. I think we're like almost a thousand views on that. And, ⁓
Android (04:07)
And call, that's where it closed earlier, you gotta call.
Don Sill (04:24)
Awesome, yeah.
Neal Girandola (04:25)
definitely had nothing to do with me and Andrew.
So it was all about you.
Android (04:28)
No. And I mean,
we've only had three episodes, so that's actually pretty good.
Don Sill (04:32)
There
Neal Girandola (04:33)
Yeah,
Don Sill (04:33)
he goes!
Neal Girandola (04:33)
right. That's right.
gotta ask these questions because I'm teeing this up a little bit. I want to know in your mind, what's more
in your opinion, the moon is fake or it's real, but it's occupied.
Don Sill (04:47)
more likely that the moon is real and occupied than fake, even though I've been doing some research and I'm gonna wait till we start getting into things. I don't wanna get ahead of the horse here, but yeah, but I do think that it's more likely that it's ⁓ to be occupied than to be fake.
Neal Girandola (04:47)
have to choose one or the other.
I love this.
Yes. Okay. Okay. I love it.
Okay. I love that. You know, NASA is kicking off the Artemis program. They're sending that a crude flight around the moon, April in April, 2026 there and then followed by that as the Artemis three, which will be the first human lunar landing tentatively planned for mid 2027. So I have to ask you this, Don, do you think this is happening and what director will they hire to shoot the fake footage?
Don Sill (05:35)
If they need a director to shoot the fake footage, I'd be happy to volunteer. It'd be awesome to be a part of that. But I... Yeah, I'd go up. I'd have to literally go to the moon to film it. I'd be like, this is awesome.
Neal Girandola (05:40)
You
Android (05:43)
Can we be the astronauts? That would be awesome.
Don Sill (05:51)
I think it... I think with AI now, would be so much... I think in 1969, they wish they had the AI...
Neal Girandola (05:51)
gonna have to get better wifi.
Android (05:53)
Hahaha
Neal Girandola (05:59)
my god. Imagine
Don Sill (06:00)
you know, they could really have fooled us all. But
I think with AI now,
hard to tell what's real, what's not
Neal Girandola (06:07)
is a,
that's a scary point you bring up. I am worried about it. I mean, it's seen all of this stuff. It is getting harder since we started this podcast back in, in ⁓
It has even improved drastically and we're seeing footage of UFOs and, and, know, aliens and things like that, that it's very hard. Now, back then it was very easy to decipher even when with AI still, you know,
building and building. Now you look at this stuff and I go, don't, I, it's very difficult to tell what's real.
Don Sill (06:40)
I do believe if we have the technology for AI, we do have the technology now to actually go. And I think this Artemis project program is, ⁓
Legit I do think we'll go there. I know they're planning to do a lot of testing bring back a lot of ⁓ Samples more than normal and I think now it's similar the reason why we're back in a space race It's very similar to how it was in the 60s when we were competing with Russia now, it's China so I think that's what America does best is we like to compete if If nobody's in the game, we're not interested all of a sudden. China's doing it. All right, we gotta go. Let's do it
Neal Girandola (07:10)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Android (07:15)
All
right.
China just put a rover on the moon in 2024? Yeah. So what I don't understand is that why is it taking us, why is it so long between each mission? Because back in the sixties, dude, they were firing rockets like every six or seven months they were going up. Why is it going to take a year for us to go from April of 2026 to waiting till 2027? I don't understand that. Why can't we just do it?
Neal Girandola (07:22)
They sent something there, yeah.
Don Sill (07:23)
Yeah.
Yeah, in the 70s.
Well, Andrew, I actually asked chat GPT and
you want to know what the answers were for that? Cause I actually asked chat GPT. said, you know, why did we stop going to the moon in 1971? So it said, my master told me to tell you this. No, it says, um, it was incredibly expensive. The Apollo program costs 25 billion in $1970, which is 150 billion today. The public lost interest, which I don't think they should be concerned about.
Neal Girandola (07:52)
We're all afraid of AI, but we're getting our answers from it.
You
Android (08:02)
Yeah.
Yep.
Don Sill (08:11)
public interest when it comes to science.
Neal Girandola (08:13)
I agree.
But I think is that does that drive funding in some way, shape or form? It's not it doesn't, right? It just, mean, I guess they need our support in order if they lose, they lose our interest in space. Why, why stop? Who cares? They got to know the importance of going to space. It's very important. So but but so what is that correlation that hey, if the if the public loses interest in us going to space, how does that hurt? What the project? I don't know.
Don Sill (08:18)
That's it says.
Exactly.
Exactly.
it's, it's, it's, ⁓ points are after the first landings, many people felt that they've been there and done that TV ratings dropped and Congress started questioning the price and the cost and Apollo's 13.
Neal Girandola (08:52)
What do you base it on? You're gonna base
it on TV ratings, whether you go to the moon or not. my god. Yeah.
Don Sill (08:59)
You know I got the best ratings ever. You know, that I, can do it
is like. ⁓
Android (09:04)
was with my
flag. It was great. God bless America.
Don Sill (09:09)
It also said safety and risk. Every moon mission was dangerous.
shifted to new goals. The U.S. wanted to build space stations and study long-term space living and then explore Mars. And then it also talked about that we are planning to go back and they mentioned the Artemis program.
Neal Girandola (09:24)
Yeah. So
the Artemis thing is very cool. And I love that they're kind of doing that because what they are planning to do is they're going to build, they're going to establish ⁓ a long-term lunar presence. They're going to build these lunar bases and that's going to be amazing. And then that will eventually enable missions to Mars because it'll be the staging point for the next next, you know, deep space missions. I think this is an exciting.
project that's about to happen. think people are taking it for granted, but it's probably because we're so desensitized with the alien conversation, ⁓ three, I Atlas, you know, all of these other things going on. People are just being, you know, they, they want this stuff to be really, ⁓ something that it's not.
Android (10:07)
Right.
we're
missing the point though. The reason why we went to the moon wasn't for exploration. The reason why we went to the moon was to weaponize the moon. That was the whole process. That was the whole race between US and Russia was who was going to hold dominion over the moon. I mean, there was a project called project horizon is what it was initially called. And that was to weaponize the fricking moon. And then in 1974, cause you know, the last Apollo 17 was supposedly the last man mission to go. And that was 1975.
By
74, both sides had quit going to the moon. Russia stopped, we stopped, but why did we stop?
Don Sill (10:48)
think like you mentioned Andrew about weaponizing, I think now the interest is in this hydrogen three, this energy that they've been harvesting on the surface of the moon
could potentially give us free, endless energy or clean energy and all these types of things. think China is already up there, kind of farming it and ⁓
and all that stuff, mining it. And I think that that's kind of also the genesis of what's
get back in the game, so to speak.
Neal Girandola (11:20)
What what
does any do either of you know what the rule of the moon is I mean is it it can can anybody go there and establish
Dominion Yeah, can I I own the moon? I'm here first
Android (11:29)
Is it like international waters? don't know. I don't know if you can. I mean,
if the Americans were the first ones on the moon, then I guess we own the moon. Is that how it would work? We put the flag. Did anybody else put a flag? We got a flag, Neil. That's all that matters.
Neal Girandola (11:39)
I don't know if that's the rule though. I don't know what's this- isn't there a space rule? We gotta ask.
Don Sill (11:40)
We put our flag there.
Neal Girandola (11:47)
I'm gonna ask.
Don Sill (11:47)
But you know,
also I forget like the actual size of the moon is compared to earth. But we have the face, like we've only landed on the light side of the moon. The far side of the moon is where China is. So right now it's split into two. So it's like half Chinese, half, I don't know where the Russians stand on that, but.
Android (11:59)
Yeah, not the dark side, the other side.
supposedly.
Neal Girandola (12:11)
Well, here's
here's what it says. It's the outer space treaty.
This is Chach. I jumped on chat. GPT two because you know it why not? Yeah, United Nations Outer Space Treaty is signed by more than 110 countries
Android (12:17)
Cause we can trust it. 100%.
Don Sill (12:20)
Ha
Neal Girandola (12:26)
us and China and Russia. ⁓ It explicitly states that the outer space including the moon and other celestial bodies is not subject to national appropriation.
meaning that no country can claim sovereignty, ownership, or control. It's often compared to international waters. So nations can explore and use it, but they can't plant a flag and declare ownership. A later treaty was added in 79. It was the Moon Agreement. And that went further by declaring the moon is common heritage of mankind. It restricts commercial exploitation unless regulated by an international
So who can use it? Countries can explore, study, and establish research stations like the Artemis and Chang'e programs. Private companies can use it under national authorization. They can extract and use resources
like mining, ice, or minerals, but they still can't own
But see, I see a problem with that. So let's just say we get to the moon.
We get to the moon and then it becomes just a common thing. Like we figured out everybody can start going to them. They're all going to start going to the moon. There's just civil wars going to break it. There's going to be they're going to send soldiers up there. They're going to send up. Yeah, they're just going to that's going to go. That's going to go right out the window.
Android (13:40)
overpopulation. ⁓
Right,
because we can't be nice with one another. And I hold here. I just got this in the mail. Hello, I own part of the moon. I bought it from the reptilian people. I paid one billion monopoly dollars for it. Freaking great. Did you name it? Did you name a star? Aww.
Neal Girandola (13:46)
No, yeah.
Don Sill (13:47)
Right. That's yeah.
Neal Girandola (13:49)
Especially if they find a resource.
Mm-hmm. I think I own a star. I think I own a star. I think I've named a star for my kids. Yeah, Carl.
Don Sill (14:01)
There you go.
Neal Girandola (14:07)
Carl the star.
Android (14:09)
That's a dumb name.
Neal Girandola (14:10)
Yeah, it is dumb. It really is dumb. Yeah. All right. Well, we're gonna get to our moon, our ⁓ established moon stories that I do want to die. can't wait to dive into, but I do, Don, as we've done with you and you're the one who introduced us to it, and now it's become a staple in our show. You gotta do a rapid fire, a little bit of questions of the mostly true alien stories or not. Just real quick and then we'll get into them.
stuff. I only got a couple here for you. Are you ready?
Don Sill (14:42)
Yeah, let's do it.
Neal Girandola (14:43)
the Booga sphere, you've heard about that.
giant, ⁓ aluminum sphere that's been flying around was found in Booga Columbia and Jaime Masson has taken it. And now he, ⁓ says it is alien tech and Steven Greer has gotten behind it and he's taken it and had it tested at the university of Georgia and the
The data has come out that says it's 12,500 years old. So that's during the ice
before the pyramids. Well, we don't really know about the pyramids, but it is essentially estimated to be prior to that. Don, is the Bugisphere 12,500 years old? Is that mostly true or not?
Don Sill (15:24)
I would have to say not. ⁓ just, I would have to do a little more research, my gut instinct tells me no.
Neal Girandola (15:35)
Okay. Do you believe that this thing is alien tech at all?
Don Sill (15:39)
⁓ Again, I would have to investigate it a little bit more, based off of the gut instinct, I would say no. I believe that's a full-on hoax.
Neal Girandola (15:53)
Jaime Masson actually went on some talk show, ⁓ and said that he was surprised that it was 12,500 years old. He thought it would only be about 500 to 600 years old. Is that more plausible for you?
Don Sill (16:05)
if it's a human-made thing that they found for 500, 600 years in history, I could believe
Neal Girandola (16:13)
I
heard I heard just a theory recently, which which actually I like this one. It's the first one that I actually liked about the sphere. Like I've been trying to figure out what is this if the sphere is alien
what what what's its purpose? What is it doing? ⁓ And the best one I've heard so far is that it has been mapping the
I like this
I would have to look.
further into that theory to fully understand what they meant by that. that's an interesting thing. And Andrew, do you think it's 12,500 years old?
Android (16:46)
I think it's 13,467 years old. I did carbon dating on it myself. tested it in my basement. I took a piece of the salad dressing that was left on those two stainless steel salad bowls that were put together. No, it's not real. It was flown by a drone. Come on.
Neal Girandola (16:49)
Wow, it's older than you. Then you, you did it in your in your basement in your basement.
Don Sill (16:54)
You
Neal Girandola (16:59)
Uh-huh.
He loves calling it salad bowls.
Bye.
It was you say it's modern. It's a modern piece of alien arc, mock art. Right, right.
Android (17:15)
No, it's fake. It's not real. It's not alien at all.
Neal Girandola (17:20)
right now I see nothing that is making me believe that this is true alien tech, although I am very hopeful that ⁓ that changes. All right, Don,
you heard about the three I Atlas, right? The interstellar object that is hurtling through our solar system. All right. Is that ⁓ a alien mothership? That's what's being said. Is that a mostly true alien story or
Don Sill (17:36)
Yes.
I want to believe that that's true.
I want to believe that there is a mothership out there flying around. So I will say.
Neal Girandola (17:50)
But you think
maybe the 3-I Atlas might be the mothership?
Don Sill (17:55)
I want to think that there is a mothership floating out
Android (17:59)
Answer the question, Don.
Neal Girandola (18:00)
Yeah, Don.
Android (18:00)
Do you think 3i Atlas is the mothership? Do I think there's motherships out there?
Neal Girandola (18:00)
Yeah. Right. Well, Andrew,
Android (18:07)
You can't handle the truth,
Neal Girandola (18:09)
afraid to answer.
Don Sill (18:10)
I think that there's the three I Atlas potentially is I'm trying to be like play both sides here.
Neal Girandola (18:18)
Don, you are batshit crazy. You are batshit
crazy. What? I didn't know Don was nuts. I didn't think... I didn't think he was crazy.
Android (18:22)
I'm so sorry, Neil. I didn't realize what happened to him from the last time we talked to him. He was so sane. It's like, right. Is he like on LSD? Maybe maybe he's doing LSD now. Maybe that's what it is.
Don Sill (18:30)
Well, I wasn't prepared for these questions, I'm trying to look here.
Neal Girandola (18:33)
He's definitely doing drugs.
He's definitely on something
would, know what? It would be very cool
if it were a mothership, but this whole theory and this whole thing started with Avi Loeb, who basically just said in his report, what if, what if this were a mothership? And then everybody took that out because he said, this is just a scenario based for conversation. And he created this whole thing. I mean,
Android (18:55)
Yeah, and it was all a what if.
Neal Girandola (19:05)
And he's reaping the rewards from it because he's riding this to the end of the hill. And so are we Andrew, because every video we put out on three, I Atlas is almost a million views and it's just people love
take a bite.
Don Sill (19:18)
because you could see
it, you know, it's one of those, like you said, it's one of those things where you could like literally see it, know, like through.
Neal Girandola (19:25)
Yeah.
Android (19:25)
right but what kills me in all this is like three i atlas hurtling towards earth it's freaking so far it's going on the other side of this freaking sun that's the path now if this thing suddenly turned and started heading directly towards earth it's not it hasn't it hasn't it's just
Neal Girandola (19:42)
Yeah, if it changed direction, that would be something else. Yeah, then I would say everyone should brace.
Don Sill (19:46)
Right.
Neal Girandola (19:48)
should brace at this point.
Don Sill (19:49)
That's a good counterpoint
because if it did change direction, then you know that it's definitely operated by something.
Android (19:54)
A ship. Right.
Don Sill (19:55)
hasn't, I say it's a
Neal Girandola (19:56)
you already said that it's a mothership, so there's no retracting it. And you know what?
When we have you back on the show again, he's going to say, by the way, I, you know, I, the three I Atlas, ⁓ I said it was a mothership, but I meant it was a motherfucker. There's a motherfucker.
Don Sill (20:08)
I know I still
took when it comes to the moon landing. I still think the first one was uh was hoaxed I still but the other ones yeah, think Stanley Kubrick I I believe all that
Android (20:14)
Stanley Kubrick? Stanley Kubrick film? ⁓ it's brilliant.
Neal Girandola (20:15)
Okay
Android (20:19)
love
Don Sill (20:19)
I always think we had the technology to get to the moon. just think we had to rush it because of our battle with Russia. And I think that's what led us, that's my whole motive that led them to fake it
Neal Girandola (20:31)
there was also a lot of weird follow up from that, right? They they trashed all of the technology, right? They got rid of that. Any videos and footage that they had gone.
Don Sill (20:38)
Yeah, well that's yeah.
Neal Girandola (20:43)
when you go, why?
All right. Well, that's that's my rapid fire. Mostly true alien story or
before we get into the story, if you haven't subscribed, please do so right now because this show is liked by hundreds right now. We want to get to liked by thousands. So let's get to that. All right. That's right. Because this one's going to test everything you think you know about what's orbiting above us.
Don Sill (21:00)
You
Android (21:02)
Or at least six more people, right?
Neal Girandola (21:09)
Let's get into
Are you boys ready? Let's go to the moon. All right.
Don Sill (21:11)
Yeah, let's do it.
Android (21:11)
I'm ready.
Neal Girandola (21:13)
We're going to start first with what's real. 2009, Japan's space agency JAXA captured high resolution images of a massive pit on the moon ⁓ in the Mare Tranquilitas ⁓ section. It's a dark circular hole. It's about 100 meters wide and 50 meters
And then NASA confirmed it was an entrance to a potential lava tube. That's pretty cool.
⁓ It's and that's a cave beneath the moon's surface that could stretch for miles
Scientists including the this guy by the name of dr. Robert plus Shia of the Applied Physics Lab said these caves could shield astronauts from radiation
But others outside NASA saw something else. It's the perfect place for an alien base
and That theory isn't new because back in the 60s before the Apollo missions
A handful of NASA employees claimed photos from lunar orbiter missions showed structures like domes, towers, even a mile high shard on the surface.
Researchers like George Leonard, author of Somebody Else is on the Moon from 1976, and Ken Johnson, a NASA contractor, alleged that NASA airbrushed those anomalies out of later public images.
And then came Richard
Hoagland, Richard C. Hoagland, who in the 90s launched the Enterprise mission claiming to have uncovered glass domes and geometric ruins, especially near the crater Copernicus.
NASA, of course, denies all of this and they call the images optical artifacts. So what you're seeing isn't really just our imagination is taking over on that. But even the Apollo missions added fuel. So during Apollo 12, NASA intentionally crashed the lunar module into the surface. They were doing this intentionally.
and the seismometers left by Apollo 11 prior to Apollo 12 recorded the moon's vibrations for nearly an hour, which immediately prompted one engineer to say it rang like a bell and then that phrase became legend, insinuating that the moon is
So in 1970, two Soviet scientists, Mikhail Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov proposed
the spaceship moon theory ⁓ and they published it in Sputnik magazine. They suggested the moon might be a hollow artificial structure. So they backed that all up and then then they said it's possibly a captured alien vessel in there, which is really crazy. Now that theory resurfaced in 1975 when Don Wilson published our mysterious spaceship moon, arguing that anomalies in lunar density orbit and the ringing data meant
It was hollow inside and maybe
I love the hollow moon theory. And as the decades rolled on technology advanced, but the question didn't fade. So NASA's lunar reconnaissance orbiter photographs strange shapes near the far side crater. our, our starkest. I think that's how you say it. These were vertical shadows, sharp 90 degree angles, leading modern UFO researchers to call it the castle.
Android (24:19)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (24:27)
And then in 2024, radar mapping again revealed hidden caverns beneath the Murray tranquilities, this time confirmed by both NASA and Arizona State University. And the data showed internal chambers with temperatures steady enough to support
NASA said it's where humans could live. Now, of course, others said it's where somebody already does live.
So no proof of alien structures has ever been publicly verified, but the theories endure and so do the people behind them. Hoagland still promotes his findings. Johnston continues to speak at disclosure conferences and documentaries from ancient aliens to YouTubes. Secure Team 10 keep the narrative alive.
Officially NASA says there are no bases. Unofficially it's the most classified lunar imaging, particularly from the far side remains off limits. We're not allowed to see that stuff.
So whether you believe the moon hides alien ruins or you think it's an empty rock with good acoustics,
the evidence and the mystery are both out there. All
Boys, I'm going to hand it over to
Let's weigh in and decide whether we think this is a mostly true alien story
or not. Who wants to go?
Android (25:35)
I'm gonna let Don, you know, I'm gonna let Don go first, cause he's like salivating to go. So he's like, I'm so hungry. I can't wait to tell you guys.
Neal Girandola (25:38)
Look at him. Look at him. Don wipe your mouth. Wipe your mouth.
Now listen, we don't we can weigh in on what I've discussed, but I don't mind if you want to add other things to it. We can we can we can build on all of this. So it's there's so many different things about the moon. We could have picked 100 of them. So.
Android (25:58)
Yeah. Right.
Don Sill (26:00)
Yeah, I think
one of the theories that you missed was the cheese theory
Swiss cheese.
Neal Girandola (26:05)
our listeners, the moon is made of cheese, by the way. That is a fact.
Android (26:08)
Yeah, it's a Colby blend. It's Colby
blend. It's delicious.
Neal Girandola (26:11)
Yeah,
that is a fact. Yes.
Don Sill (26:13)
It's delicious. It's the
moon is delicious.
but, no, we, know, you, you hear like, you know, the hollow theory and there's also the, the manmade, ⁓ that was manmade or alien made and all that kind of stuff. And there's also the big splash theory of how the earth and the moon, how the moon is literally a part of earth and that back, you know, billion years ago, whatever, when the universe was formed, the earth and the moon.
collided or something in the splash theory so that the moon has a lot of
qualities to it.
Neal Girandola (26:49)
qualities.
Don Sill (26:51)
did look at this chart of what
the or you guys can't see this, it's what the moon
% oxygen, 16.5 silicone, 3.5 % iron, 3.5 % magnesium and 1.0 % titanium. And yeah, but I do think looking at what the Chinese have been doing up
Neal Girandola (27:08)
and 5 % alien.
Don Sill (27:14)
found
Evidence and you guys probably already know this of volcanoes that there are have been a lot of volcanic eruptions on the moon throughout its its history and they found You know lava and like mountains of like lavas type
and they also found a bunch of different
Including the helium-3 that we talked about and they've been shipping them back for to earth to kind of look into it more I think we actually have some hydrogen-3 already here that they've mined and brought
they also discovered water up there So if there's water on the moon, that means they could potentially be life You know, you could create life or you could sustain life if there's water
Android (27:56)
They've also said that there's no atmosphere on the
Neal Girandola (27:59)
Yeah,
Android (28:00)
how can water exist unless it's not water, unless it's something else? The other thing, too, is that if it rang like a bell, how did they hear the sound? Sound doesn't travel in space.
Neal Girandola (28:07)
What else would it be if it's not water?
Well, that's the seismol. It's the seismic thing that they left from Apollo 11.
Android (28:21)
And then I'm supposed to
believe all the recordings from the moon considering that NASA recorded over all of them or all the live recordings like disappeared from NASA. Well, no, I'm just like, you know, it's all to me, this is just all like speculation. Let's bring in some facts, like what if, oh my gosh, you know, and shadows. mean, NASA says all this stuff is shadows that's on the moon. It's not real bases. It's the way the light is hitting from the sun.
Neal Girandola (28:31)
You're so angry about the moon and you're mad at NASA.
Well, well, of course, well, of course, but
Mm-hmm.
Android (28:51)
way that the moon is set, you know, but what's weird about the moon though is think about it. The way it revolves around us is just like this. Hello.
Don Sill (29:00)
Well, that's what makes what China is doing.
Neal Girandola (29:02)
Wait, show me again? How's
it go? How's it go? ⁓ huh. ⁓ huh. Yeah. Okay. ⁓ huh.
Android (29:06)
Hi, I'm made of cheese.
Don Sill (29:06)
Ha
That's what makes what China's doing even harder to prove or disprove is because they're doing on the far side of the moon ⁓ You know, so they're like really hidden from us. They're not even on the face of the moon They're behind it and and supposedly back there too And another thing too about life on the moon that would be really difficult is the the weather patterns they they change drastically from like hot to cold like, you know Yeah, so it's it would be tough to unless you build a
Neal Girandola (29:22)
Mm-hmm.
They do, they get bad.
Android (29:37)
Yeah, it's like 1000 degrees one day
and then 1000 degrees below zero the next. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (29:39)
But I want to, yeah, I want to go
Don Sill (29:41)
Right,
yeah, it's nuts.
Neal Girandola (29:42)
back. I want to go back to what you were talking about. What the moon is made up of though, Don, what is it? What was your point of that? What was that telling us? just about the resources that could possibly come from the moon.
Don Sill (29:55)
Yeah, I think the resources are a big thing. And I think that's one of the reasons why
well, like Andrew said earlier was the, uh, to have it as a, you know, um, uh, defense mechanism or, know, for, for that, think now it's, yeah, I think now it's kind of, it's still that I think it will always be that, but I think it's also evolved now into these minerals and, this, uh, helium three, I think is going to be super valuable.
Neal Girandola (30:09)
Yeah.
Android (30:10)
Project Horizon.
Don Sill (30:24)
⁓ you know,
Neal Girandola (30:25)
What do they use that for?
What are they using helium three for? What could that just energy resource?
Don Sill (30:28)
So
energy resources and what they said they have to do is create some kind of nuclear fusion reactor that they don't have yet. But once they create that, they're making it supposedly the scientists. And once they have that, will be able to fuel rockets to really go to faster through. Yeah, from from utilize the moon as a port to get to Mars.
Neal Girandola (30:41)
Mm.
From there out. Yeah
I really
like that science. I like that thinking. I think that's really cool. And I think it's definitely plausible. So if those resources are there and they can actually, we can actually get there, build the bases and build what we need to build to create that
energy resource to go on and deep space explore. think that's brilliant. That would be
of that though. I don't think is far fetched. I think what
I'm trying to determine is whether there are alien bases on the moon, and whether there are, you know, those caverns are sustaining life, if the moon is hollow, and there's caverns into there, maybe there is oxygen in there, maybe they're already living in there, maybe that is going on. But I don't, you know, the that stuff's hard for me to to fathom. ⁓ But building the resource to go into deep space, I think that's definitely
Android (31:26)
Well.
Yeah,
I
was one thing that I found that every astronaut that went up on Apollo missions, they were aware that they weren't alone up there.
Neal Girandola (31:51)
Mm-hmm.
Android (31:53)
They all said that we realized that we are not alone here. That's kind of creepy. Right. Just a little bit. And then when they would go like, ⁓ Michael Collins talked about who is the, they call him the forgotten astronaut because he was the third guy with Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong. No, he was in the ship.
Neal Girandola (31:59)
Yeah, that's something.
Don Sill (31:59)
I think so, yeah.
Neal Girandola (32:10)
He had to carry the bags. He had to carry the bags to the ship.
Android (32:13)
He was up above. he had to go around, kept going around the
Neal Girandola (32:13)
Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah.
Android (32:18)
he would go 47 minutes every hour without communication when he would go to the dark side. So there was no communication and what apparently there's no way to communicate when it goes to the other side of the moon. It's like radio silence.
Neal Girandola (32:23)
Mm-hmm.
I
feel like he's the guy where you ask your wife to take the car and just circle the block. I'm going to run inside real quick. All right. Just be back here, you know, in five and eight and he doesn't get there. Yeah. Yeah.
Android (32:37)
Right. Well,
Don Sill (32:39)
They're waiting on him. Yeah.
Where the hell is he?
Android (32:41)
he heard, he heard like whistling radio sounds on his headset, which wasn't coming from any radio that we were sending.
Neal Girandola (32:46)
Uh-huh.
Hmm. What did he say it was? Did he say that he what he thought it was?
Android (32:54)
Yeah, whistling communications. No, he
just said whistling space music with no.
Neal Girandola (33:00)
That's cause the moon's
hollow and the wind was blowing over the moon and it was causing this music.
Android (33:03)
There's no
wind in space. It's like we're trying to create all these things to say that the moon is this and the moon is that. It's possibilities. We're all running on possibilities, just like three I Atlas.
Neal Girandola (33:07)
definitely win.
Android (33:16)
The guy said, what if it's a mothership? What if the moon was hollow?
Neal Girandola (33:20)
Yeah, but did Collins have any explanation as to what where he thought the sounds were coming from? Couldn't have been radio tech technical issues or feedback.
Android (33:23)
They don't know what it was, no. No, and they all experienced it.
No?
No?
Don Sill (33:32)
One theory that I did see that interested me about the potential that the moon was created by aliens and you know, is that it's perfectly placed and it's the perfect size and it's the everything is just too convenient.
Neal Girandola (33:45)
Yeah.
Android (33:46)
We're the only planet
in the universe, in the whole universe that has something like
over us.
Don Sill (33:52)
Right.
mean, the moon is so important to our existence. It's just, you know, equal almost as the sun. So it's just crazy.
Neal Girandola (33:53)
Yeah.
Android (33:57)
Right.
So the whole alien base thing could have its theories behind things like what happened in 1965 with Gemini 4 when James McDivitt, who was an astronaut on that, said he saw a UFO.
Android (34:13)
around the moon and he w he tried to take a picture of
Neal Girandola (34:14)
and he tried to take the picture.
Android (34:16)
but when he got his camera to focus, the sun had gotten in the way. And by the time the sun cleared, the UFO was gone. Okay. And then in 68 with Apollo,
Neal Girandola (34:19)
Okay.
Okay. Mm-hmm. He's the guy that
was circling the moon, waiting for the dudes that are on the moon.
Android (34:30)
No, no, no,
no. This was 65. This was Gemini 4. This was one of the first rockets to go around. They never went to the moon. They were flying around orbiting ⁓ Earth. And then in 68, Apollo 8 ⁓ claimed that they saw Santa Claus.
Neal Girandola (34:37)
Okay. Okay.
Android (34:45)
So Santa Claus is code for ⁓ UFO, also bogey, also fire. They called it Santa Claus. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So.
Neal Girandola (34:51)
that's true. That's what they did. They called it Santa Claus. Money. And what
what what like who was on that? Anybody know we know?
Android (35:02)
It's Apollo eight. gives a
Think about it. Think about it. Nobody remembers anything. Nobody remembers any of those astronauts. There were 10 other missions prior to Apollo 11, but everybody just remembers Apollo 11.
Neal Girandola (35:14)
Yeah, but that doesn't.
Yeah, but that's all right. It's like hockey players. You don't recognize them when they're out in public. Nobody recognizes hockey players. Yeah. You don't, you don't know them. mean, these guys are, it doesn't diminish what they've done and accomplished. don't think,
Don Sill (35:17)
Yeah.
When they have their helmets off, yeah.
Android (35:29)
Right.
Neal Girandola (35:29)
wonder like how deep they actually go into those reports when they say they saw Santa Claus, like, what is it that they, there's cameras on their ships, right? So
Android (35:38)
Maybe they saw
Santa Claus.
Neal Girandola (35:40)
Maybe it was Santa Claus.
Don Sill (35:42)
It could have been.
Android (35:44)
Now the thing behind that is they were also in space on Christmas Eve when he said
Neal Girandola (35:44)
I don't.
Android (35:49)
could have been, it could have been a joke. We don't know. NASA says it was a joke, but was it?
Neal Girandola (35:55)
Well, I believe that it was Santa Claus.
Android (35:58)
I think so too. So, okay. Now here's you were talking about bases and images and mushroom shape things and portals and stuff, right? Well,
Don Sill (35:58)
Me too, me too. How else do the presents get everywhere?
Neal Girandola (35:59)
Yeah, mean, that makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Android (36:08)
there was an airman second class by the name of Carl Wolf, ⁓ who says that he worked in the NASA's lunar, original facility, like the original facility that they created for NASA's NASA's launching right to the moon. And he said that he was there to fix some equipment.
Neal Girandola (36:22)
Okay.
Android (36:25)
And while he was fixing some equipment, he saw photos of bases, mushroom shaped buildings, towers. And then when he went home, nothing on the...
Neal Girandola (36:36)
But he didn't it's
not that he saw it somebody showed it to him. Another guy of his same rank actually shared it to him. Yeah. Right. huh. Yeah, exactly. And he said you can't tell anybody. Yeah. There's that she's definitely there's some aliens in there. That's for
Android (36:40)
showed it to him. Yeah. Another guy showed it to him and said, hey, check out these naked photos of my wife. And by the way, check out the moon. And he was like, that's some moon. That's what he said. ⁓ That's some moon she's got.
Don Sill (36:48)
⁓ Look at the mushrooms on her, huh?
Neal Girandola (36:57)
and he also went out and
started doing this whole book tour thing about it right he's been making talking things
Android (37:02)
He tried to do that. Well, no, no, no.
He said he was going to go public. In 2001, he said he was going to go public ⁓ with the photos that he saw. Now, no one else saw these photos. He doesn't have the photos. ⁓ No, this was all just hearsay. Right. But what was weird was that when the guy was going to go public with it, he was riding his bike home.
Neal Girandola (37:13)
He doesn't have the photos. He's just telling the story. Yeah.
that's right. He got hit by a car or truck. Yeah, he got hit by a truck. Yeah.
Android (37:26)
Dead.
Don Sill (37:32)
convenient.
Neal Girandola (37:33)
My poor guy. You know what? I'm sure that's not related. I'm sure that's not what happened. But I and I think that that I did hear that. I don't think that that I don't think they would they kill you because you saw the pictures. They could just claim he's nuts.
Android (37:48)
Right, right. Well, then there was another guy, Dr. Ken Johnson, who also worked for NASA from 1969 to 72. And he was in the lunar receiving labs. And they had a lot of different lunar labs there. 69 to 72. And he said he cataloged lunar findings,
Neal Girandola (37:56)
Yeah.
From whence from 72 to 79. Okay.
Android (38:09)
even photos taken by the astronauts. He saw alien cities.
Neal Girandola (38:12)
Like what?
Okay. On the moon. On the moon.
Android (38:17)
the moon.
Neal Girandola (38:18)
ha ha ha
Android (38:18)
Now he said
he was asked to destroy these photos
by the powers that be.
Neal Girandola (38:22)
Okay
now this guy only worked there for three years. Yeah that's not it. He's not a look. He's not a lifer in NASA. They're going to ask him to destroy anything. You think. Wait no wait wait a minute. So wait he had to destroy the photos that showed these domes and these high rises.
Android (38:26)
He worked there from 69 to 72.
All right, so.
anything that showed alien tech
or alien stuff, right? But he has said he held onto one of the photos and he came forward in 1995 and, um, they later dismissed that he, he now, no, he got hit by, by, uh, an, an UTSS potato chip
Neal Girandola (38:48)
Okay. Okay.
and they got hit by the same truck. He got hit by the same truck.
Don Sill (38:57)
Ha ha ha.
Android (39:01)
craziest accident chips. Yeah. Yeah. And it was, guess what it was.
Neal Girandola (39:02)
Killed by a potato truck a potato chip truck
Android (39:08)
Sour cream and cheese potato chips.
Don Sill (39:10)
It was extra cheese.
Neal Girandola (39:13)
You know if I'm gonna get killed I'd be the way to go I love those chips
Android (39:17)
Okay, so the NASA came out and said the guy never even worked for them. So, you know, these are just all weird things.
Neal Girandola (39:22)
Yeah. ⁓
But don't know how I'm not I'm not reading
you. Usually I can read you. You seem a little I'm not sure how you're taking all of this information that you're sharing. Okay.
Android (39:35)
I'm taking it with a grain of salt. mean NASA says
we should trust them, but they're part of the government. government. Do we really trust them?
Neal Girandola (39:43)
Well, it you know, yeah, I mean, it comes back to ⁓ government agency. ⁓ Yeah, being controlled by the government. So they build this agency so they can control the narrative of everything.
Android (39:52)
So as right. Right.
So as we know, we know that.
Neal Girandola (39:57)
But that
makes it easier for people outside of that to build these fantastical stories about aliens because they could just, I worked for NASA and then NASA will say they never worked for us and that kind of stuff. anyway, my God, poor guy.
Android (40:04)
Well yeah, exactly, Right. Right. Then they kill him with a potato chip truck.
Don Sill (40:14)
And then
Santa Claus gets you too. So it's just a whole endless, never ending.
Neal Girandola (40:17)
And then Santa Claus comes by. Yeah. All
Android (40:18)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (40:20)
right, what else you got?
Android (40:21)
something that's interesting. You're talking about the surface and the photos and stuff. A lot of these photos came from 1994 from the Clementine Orbiter. And it was a satellite that went around the 1994. It took two million photos of the moon's surface. And they released them to the public. But a lot of the photos that they released actually had like blurred spots on
Neal Girandola (40:31)
What year? Okay.
Wow.
Mm.
Android (40:47)
images. So you'd see like the clear lunar surface and then there would be this spot. No, they just blurred it. Like they took Vaseline and smeared it like the worst Photoshop job ever, you know? And so it was ⁓ the Zeeman, the Zeeman crater was one of the main ones that people that was, that was edited. And it says that they think that there's a spaceship there. And that's why they removed that or blurred.
Neal Girandola (40:48)
⁓ So they pixelated it out. ⁓ Right, sure.
Mm-hmm.
Android (41:16)
the photo over that.
Neal Girandola (41:17)
So that's the
conspiracy that came out that they blurred out a spaceship on the Zeeman crater.
Android (41:20)
Yeah. Yep. And
then in 2021, China's moon rover took a photo of what they're calling the mystery
That looks like a structured. Hut, you know, because the nomads, the nomads that live on the moon travel in those, they build them and then they tear them down and then they build them and then they tear them down.
Neal Girandola (41:29)
Mm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Don Sill (41:33)
Yeah, so...
Neal Girandola (41:41)
I'm sorry.
Android (41:41)
That's
what explains all this stuff away by, they call it tricks with a light or pareidolia, right? Where your mind sees an object you talked about that randomness, right? So, right. It's like when you see a cloud in the sky, you're like, oh gosh, that cloud looks like Jesus. That must be Jesus.
Neal Girandola (41:46)
Sure. Yeah.
Yeah. And you think it's, yeah.
Well, we're currently going
through that in real time with the Mars photos because the Mars photos will show these perfectly square or, you know, things. This looks like a spoon. That looks like a vase.
Android (42:00)
Right. Yep. Yep.
Neal Girandola (42:08)
I don't fully understand the science of the moon. I'm not that smart. to actually live on the moon or to have aliens on the moon or to have anything living, need air,
Android (42:23)
Well
actually Superman doesn't need air.
Neal Girandola (42:25)
Superman does not or Santa.
Android (42:28)
No santa nays here.
Don Sill (42:28)
Very true.
Neal Girandola (42:29)
is there anything else you guys want to add to our moon story? I think we can weigh in.
Android (42:31)
Well, yeah,
the other thing too, one thing that I learned was that the moon was actually two different objects. The reason why, because the dark side of the moon surface looks completely different than the front side that we see always. And they're thinking that it possibly could have been two moons that collided together and the larger one that we see absorbed the other one. That's another theory that's out there.
Neal Girandola (42:43)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So separate
from what Don shared about the earth, the big splash. Okay. That's a different theory.
Don Sill (43:00)
Big Splash Theory.
Android (43:01)
Yeah, yeah, that it was two, two, two, two
different theory, different theory. then, you know, there's, they saw footprints they've seen. No, these aren't, these are not published. This is, these are just theories. And then, you know, they did see footprints. There has been giant footprints that they have photos of that are across the moon. Nobody knows what that is.
Neal Girandola (43:08)
But these aren't published. Kinda. These are just theories.
you know, if I were in NASA, and I was building spaceships to go to the moon, I would definitely make it.
So when it lands on the moon, that the bottom of it is two giant feet, like just not even with shoes on just giant feet, like I would make it that way. So just fucking with the future generation when people go up there and go, there's two giant feet marks on the moon. Yeah.
Don Sill (43:43)
You would like prank the next...
Neal Girandola (43:45)
Yeah, everywhere
you go. is like, it's like leaving it's like leaving a time capsule. But this one is just messing with everybody in the future.
Android (43:46)
Gotcha!
Don Sill (43:49)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (43:52)
All right. Is
this a mostly true alien story or not? Don, why don't you go ahead and weigh
Don Sill (43:58)
I don't think it's mostly true alien story, but I think it's mostly true that there is ⁓ encampments up there and that the Chinese are ahead of us on the tech and that there is going to be, there already is a competition to get to the mineral, the helium-3. That's my take on it. Whether or not it's hollow or not, we have to do some drilling and do some more testing to find that out. ⁓
that's still suspect to me as well. there's a lot of questions. ⁓ Right.
Neal Girandola (44:29)
Well, they haven't been able to explain away that I haven't heard
any scientific evidence of what that could possibly be and the reason that that that ringing like a bell thing happened.
And also, Don, are you saying that you think there are bases up there, not alien, or are they they are they bases that we have put in place? Humans have put in place.
Don Sill (44:39)
Right.
I think that their bases that humans have been putting in place
Neal Girandola (44:53)
Technically you're you don't think this is a mostly true alien story you just think there's a is it is a mostly true story about humans putting bases on the moon All right, all right, I'm gonna hand it over to you Andrew. Do you think this is a mostly true alien story or not?
Don Sill (45:03)
Yeah, that's where I'm at.
Android (45:10)
No, I don't because here's the thing, dude, if they were aliens, they're on the moon. They are so close to us. What are they doing up there? Why haven't they just come and done something? Why the whole shrouding on the other side of the moon if they're aliens? The fact that these aliens, think about how many thousands of years we've known the moon is in the sky.
Neal Girandola (45:11)
You don't. None of it.
Well, you could say that about everything.
I've known at least 59 years.
Android (45:37)
if that's the case, where are they? Why do they hide? What do they have? Are they scarred?
Neal Girandola (45:42)
Yeah, but let's just say that based on what you're saying, if it is revealed that aliens are on the moon, what do you think happens
What happens next? What do we do? We do
Android (45:48)
Nothing. Why all of a sudden? all of a sudden?
What are we going to do? We're going to be like, my god, there's aliens on the moon. No, they're not. So we don't have to worry about it. No aliens on the moon. No, not a mostly true alien story. A mostly true moon story. No bases. No, I don't think we've gone up. No, I mean, if you want to start another episode that talk about how Apollo 18, 19, and 20 actually happened, even though we were told that they didn't, we can do that too. But.
Neal Girandola (46:01)
Any bases? Any bases? The moon hollow is a moon hollow.
you
Android (46:16)
Maybe that's where the bases were formed. what are you, Don, you know, but Don doesn't even know. He doesn't believe we to the first time. How can he believe the second time or the third time? That's what I don't understand. Don.
Neal Girandola (46:18)
Wow, I love this teaser. I love this teaser.
Don Sill (46:28)
My thing is I like I explained I think the first time was out of necessity because we had to beat the Russians and we had to put the face on there that America did it first and so we didn't we weren't ready to go yet, but they felt like Russia was getting ready to go so we had to Do it plant the flag. So I think that was the motive to fake the first time but then I think four months later, I believe that they really went ⁓ with 12
Neal Girandola (46:54)
Mm.
Don Sill (46:56)
Apollo 12 and that was November 19th, 1969. And I think then they actually, you know, collected data, they brought samples back with them and all that kind of stuff. And then I think again in 71 and 72, the whole question, the big question for me, and you brought this up earlier too, is why did they stop? Why did everybody stop going after 72? That's what I don't understand. It felt
Android (47:20)
the aliens told them not to come back.
Neal Girandola (47:23)
Don says it's not a mostly true story. Andrew, you say it's not a mostly true alien story. Don does think there's bases up there ⁓ and thinks that our base is not alien and you think there's nothing going on with the moon. All right. Now it's my turn to weigh in. I think people are picking on the moon. I don't know why they're picking on the moon, but it's odd that, you know,
Android (47:32)
our bases.
Neal Girandola (47:46)
If it were pure fiction, I think all of this would have died decades ago. I the moon's right here. It's right here.
What I do believe is
that I think is a mostly true alien story is that there are bases on the moon. I think there are bases on the moon. I think those photos have been hidden. And I think I think there's a secret agreement somewhere among countries, especially between China and us that you can't, you know, you can't say anything. You can't tell anybody that that's what's going on. There are energy resources up there. And I think it's a brilliant idea. And I think that's what they're trying to work out. And maybe they've come to this agreement now that we're going to be allowed to land on the moon.
And we're going to be allowed to use that as our, our, the starting point to go back into deep space. And that's what's happening now. I think we're ready to do that. And that's where this Artemis thing that's going. So I do think this is a mostly true alien story.
can't wait till you guys are proven completely wrong. ⁓ Don, at least you'll have partially.
Don Sill (48:44)
Ha
Neal Girandola (48:46)
Alright, so there you have it. It's bases caves and the hollow moon Andrew says it's not a mostly true alien story Don says it's not a mostly true alien story, but he believes there are our bases that are up
and mine I Gotta go with the moon being a mostly true alien Story, I am very excited to hear what everybody else has to say about that
Don, can't thank you enough for being on the show and coming back and joining us again. What's your biggest takeaway from today's episode?
Don Sill (49:19)
That we saw Santa Claus, you know, that, no, but no, the biggest takeaway is, it's always great talking to both of you guys. get like, you know, ⁓ kind of a yin and yang ⁓ answers out of, know, and information and kind of like it, but slowly puts things into a perspective. And it always makes me question myself. like, cause you guys are so good at what you do.
Neal Girandola (49:21)
Yeah. Yeah.
Don Sill (49:48)
So when Andrew's talking, I'm starting to say, yeah, you know, he's right. And then when you start talking like, yeah, you know, he's right. So it's, it's, I'm easily persuaded. ⁓ But, but no, it's always a pleasure talking with you guys. You guys are ⁓ the best at this and ⁓ it's, it's just awesome. And I kind of, there's a part of me that wants the moon to be hollow.
Neal Girandola (49:52)
Ha ha.
Yeah. Yeah.
Don Sill (50:07)
Cheese would be even better. Cause I, I, you know, goes good with those potato chips.
Android (50:07)
I want it to be cheese.
Neal Girandola (50:14)
we loved having you Don. What do you got? What do you got coming up? You're celebrating the two Americans 250th year. Tell us tell us about all that.
Don Sill (50:21)
Yeah, I've been touring around as George Washington, dressed up as George Washington, got my partner Ben Franklin. We've been going to different cities like Philadelphia and Boston. We want to go to all 13 original colonies and just do this thing in, you know, you know, July 4th, 2026 is the 250th anniversary of when we claimed our independence from England. It's a big deal because, I mean, we were all alive when we hit 200.
in 1976. And it was a big deal then. And here we are 250. Unless good things happen with AI or something, we might not be here for 300. So this is a big deal for the 250th anniversary to celebrate this thing. America is a great country. I love being, you know, doing the George Washington. done standup comedy as George Washington already at Governor's Comedy.
Neal Girandola (51:11)
Yeah, it's such a
it's such a big deal that, you know, we've got this grown man dressing up like George Washington walking around cities telling people all about it.
Don Sill (51:19)
People love me. Like it's
so crazy. Nobody ever wants to take a picture with me. No strangers when I'm just walking around as myself. You put on a wig, a powder wig, everybody is, especially in Philly. They just want to take pictures. You're like a rock star. So 250 years later, George Washington, still the OG, number one since 1776 and the face of the dollar bill. there you have it. And the quarter. So he's a buck 25.
Neal Girandola (51:26)
Yeah. With their pants off. Yeah.
You
Love it.
Android (51:42)
Wow.
Neal Girandola (51:43)
yeah, face of the dollar bill. Here we go. Well, if you haven't,
if you haven't checked out Don Versace, please go do that and and follow Don on Instagram and Facebook and you can see those videos that he's making addresses George Washington is getting he's meeting so many ladies doing this is really making out. Now is there a t shirt or something? What is there something that your was? Didn't you mention something about t shirts?
Don Sill (52:04)
They love a man in uniform.
Yeah, trendsjackers.etsy.com. Go check it out the store. We're selling all kinds of George Washington gear and USA 250 gear and also Patri-Hodic. for the, yeah, so if you're a good looking hot person or you feel like you are, represent Patri-Hodic. I got Patri-Hodic t-shirts, Patri-Hodic hats. ⁓ And yeah, so we just doing a lot in anticipation of.
Neal Girandola (52:24)
Patriotic. Me?
I'll...
Don Sill (52:40)
250th anniversary coming up.
Neal Girandola (52:42)
Send me the link. I'll put it in the
said. Drop your thoughts in the comments. Make sure you're subscribed and share this with someone who swears they can see faces on the moon. Until next time,
kind to the aliens when they get here. Thanks, boys. Yeah.
Android (52:56)
Thanks, Neil. Bye.
Don Sill (52:56)
Take care everybody. You guys
rock.