The Buga Sphere Wasn’t the First: The Forgotten Mystery of the Betz Sphere
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The Buga Sphere Wasn’t the First: The Forgotten Mystery of the Betz Sphere

Neal Girandola (00:00)
A family in Jacksonville, Florida finds a strange metal sphere buried in the ashes of a brush

It hums. It rolls on its

It emits a faint rhythmic pulse like it's

Navy investigates. Scientists study it. The media loses its mind. And 50 years later, nobody knows what it really was or where it

it alien technology

or just a perfect prank of physics?

It's the true alien report of the Betts

you heard of

you believe?

Let's get into

to another episode of Mostly True

Alien Stories.

Neal Girandola (00:50)
I'm Neil

and with me as always

my

Boyfriend Andrew Triana. Hi Andrew.

Android (01:09)
Hey Neil, what's going

Neal Girandola (01:10)
it's sphere, sphere, sphere season. So today

Android (01:13)
totally stupid

Neal Girandola (01:14)
this story rolls straight out of Florida. Literally

Android (01:15)
I love it.

Neal Girandola (01:18)
one of the strangest artifact cases in modern UFO

A metallic ball that seems to think for itself, a family that swore it was alive and a government investigation that couldn't quite explain it away.

Does it all sound familiar to you?

It's not what you're thinking. This is the Betz sphere.

And we're going to get into that in just a little bit. But you know what I thought would be fun to Andrew before we get into that is Reddit. know, a lot of these, a of these theories, a lot of these ⁓ topics of conversation come up through

Android (01:43)
Okay, go. Tell me.

Neal Girandola (01:50)
I thought maybe we, maybe we just let's just surf Reddit for a minute or two and see what we come up with.

Android (01:51)
You

Okay, all right, see what you find.

Neal Girandola (01:58)
right. I'm in the aliens Reddit.

the, you know, R slash alien. They do.

Android (02:00)
They have their own, they have their own section.

Neal Girandola (02:03)
That is probably run by the aliens.

Android (02:04)
Amazing.

Neal Girandola (02:05)
let's see, why are aliens not interacting with us? So I'm going to go to the ones though, that have a lot of like up votes here. ⁓

Android (02:12)
Can we get to the,

yeah, I love the upvotes, but do some of the whys, because that's

Like, okay.

Neal Girandola (02:15)
Okay. I will. All right. Here we go. Here we go.

Why are aliens not interacting with

this discussion starts out as the age of our solar system is about 5.4 billion years. Yeah. The age of the universe is about 14 billion years. So most of the universe has been around a lot longer than our little corner of

Android (02:25)
What? That's a roast.

I thought it was 13.

Neal Girandola (02:35)
makes sense that our, that other beings could have advanced technology.

enough to make contact with us so why haven't they that's a great question do you have an answer for that because i'm going go to the

wait you're communicating with them now wait i'm sorry i yeah everyone keep it down

Android (02:46)
Hold on one second.

They don't feel like it.

They don't feel like it.

Neal Girandola (02:55)
don't feel like it. That's

Android (02:59)
They can't have a bad rep too, they said.

Neal Girandola (02:57)
very interesting. Let's see.

Android (03:03)
they overreact from being abducted.

overreact from seeing their ships and they're less like, no, not ready.

Neal Girandola (03:10)
Well, it's funny because the comments in here, people, it's almost people like to fight about this stuff. They start arguing with each other over it.

Android (03:17)
Well, yeah, they argue about anything.

Neal Girandola (03:18)
And they get pretty deep. So one guy starts, I don't know if it's worth reading this one. It is unlikely that we would reach this state anyway, even if the axioms of dark forest theory were true, the logical conclusion.

according to the theory is that any civilization that emerged would immediately destroy any world with life.

Considering that all worlds with life are a potential

risk to the survival of a civilization and it is highly likely that it would be trivial for any sufficiently advanced civilization to detect and destroy worlds with life even thousands of light years

Android (03:55)
they are like, we're saving your lives

Neal Girandola (03:57)
this guy saying that, you know, be careful what you wish for because. Yeah, Independence Day.

Android (04:02)
Independence Day. Battle Los Angeles.

Neal Girandola (04:05)
But then the other guy says, I'm assuming that the actions of the dark forest theory are

It doesn't mean that I agree with it, but that even within the theory, doesn't make sense.

Hostility does not arise from a desire to conquer the resources of living worlds,

rather to eliminate potential competitors. Resources in space are quite

but finite. Having yet another civilization competing for them limits the amount of resources you can to obtain,

which, know, it's funny because we talked about the moon. Remember we talked about the moon in our last, ⁓ in our upcoming, it's an upcoming episode.

Android (04:39)
Yeah, how it's made of cheese.

Neal Girandola (04:41)
it's made of cheese.

But we said there's no, there's no one can claim domain over the moon.

Android (04:46)
Well, wait a second. No, that's our treaty. We made that with our countries, but what about the folks out there? They don't have a copy of it.

Neal Girandola (04:54)
They don't,

my point of this is that let's just say that each country are their own species of aliens and we're all trying to get to the moon, but we have a treaty in place that says you can't claim the moon to be a dominion over that. So, but what's going to happen is we're going to fight you. The first person there is going to declare ownership of that moon. So I think that's just, I'm saying that's a microcosm of this dark theory sort of.

Android (05:21)
So what species are

Neal Girandola (05:21)
conversation

me on the Italian aliens

yeah we're very nice

Android (05:26)
you're greasy.

eat a lot of pasta. You like, ⁓

Neal Girandola (05:30)
⁓ my god, you're doing all the stereotypes, geez. Holy cow.

Android (05:33)
Right, and I'm

Hispanic, so I eat beans, I ride around in a boat, ⁓ I swim well. Right, yeah, so that's good. Yeah.

Neal Girandola (05:37)
Yeah.

Yeah, right.

Alright,

here's another one before you get in trouble from our listeners. ⁓ It is, ⁓

the scariest theory you've heard about aliens? You have one?

Android (05:56)
mean, I heard a lot about just total annihilation when they come. It's not going to be friendly.

And I heard that the supposedly the aliens that are on the moon right now that have bases and stuff are not

Neal Girandola (06:08)
They're not friendly.

Android (06:09)
not friendly

yeah this is what i heard

Neal Girandola (06:10)
This is what you've heard.

The guy who doesn't believe in aliens. You mean your alien gang you hang out with. That's what you heard through there. Yeah.

Android (06:15)
Yeah.

Yeah, see,

you know what it is is that I don't believe in aliens because I hang out with them.

Neal Girandola (06:23)
Does your alien gang do you guys?

Does your gang

do you guys have like ⁓ all wear like denim jackets?

Android (06:29)
we wear leather chaps and leather jackets and they're assless chaps so it makes it more fun.

Neal Girandola (06:35)
All Well, this, this Reddit, this Reddit user,

say that's their question. What's the scariest theory you've heard about aliens.

they say mine is that old world religions were shaped by UFOs and alien encounters simply because the native tribes thought they were gods.

Given all the Nazca cave videos we have, that seems more and more likely to me. That's scary. I don't know if that's scary.

Android (06:57)
That's

not scary. I mean, we saw Jaime Masson's mummies. They're not scary. I think the scariest, you know what? I'm going to go with the scariest story I heard is about the tic-tac with the poor little alien that was inside that tic-tac and he had to fly around in that thing. That was pretty scary. Scary. Yeah. Scary for him. Does it mean scary for us? Maybe

Neal Girandola (06:58)
Hmm. Yeah. That's because, they're just curled up in a ball.

I'm poor guy. It's scary for him. Scary for him. Yeah.

one of the Reddit user says the lack of information we have is the scariest in my opinion. If they do exist, they could be something beyond our comprehension and thus don't care about a race as primitive as us.

Android (07:23)
Hmm.

Neal Girandola (07:31)
That wasn't

the question, buddy. That wasn't the question.

Android (07:34)
Yeah, why don't you learn to read pal?

That's just mean. Sorry, whoever you are on Reddit, on alien Reddit, sorry, alien race number 37.

Neal Girandola (07:39)
Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Here's one. Us. He says starts with a scariest that I've heard is is this guy is ⁓ scariest that I've heard is probably us being farmed for loosh in a simulated reality. What's Douche.

Android (07:49)
How can you have a stutter when you type?

Uh, douche. That's what I meant to say. We're being armed for douches. No, come on. But who writes, uh,

Neal Girandola (08:09)
Yeah. ⁓

Android (08:16)
Put his name out. Say his name so we can mock him more. No, I'm just kidding. Let's find him and beat him up.

Neal Girandola (08:23)
Yeah, this guy, I don't know, then it's just going off the rails here. This guy, there's no, guy says, this is, this is right up there with the EA statement that grinding for something fills the player with a sense of achievement and pride. What? Yeah. And then he says, then he says bullocks really. So, you know, I had the accent, right?

Android (08:26)
Right. More us. More us.

What? What is this, a soccer site?

Neal Girandola (08:47)
As children, we do things for fun. I do not remember ever being bored even when left alone. I mean, that's not the question, guy.

Android (08:48)
And hello.

That's the scariest thing. He was never bored when he was alone.

Neal Girandola (08:57)
Yeah, but I don't understand like he went off the rail the question. Let me remind the readers the reddit users What's the scariest here? You've heard about aliens and this guy's talking about EA games and putting in a thousand hours in Minecraft

Come on, dude.

Android (09:16)
How old are you? Like, seven?

Neal Girandola (09:17)
So

Loosh harvesting is something a Loosh harvesting theory. Can you look that up? Loosh L O O S H harvesting theory. See what that is.

Android (09:23)
Loosh. Loosh.

The Loose-Harsh Harvest Theory begins with entities. ⁓ Entities harvest a subtle emotion or vital energy termed loosh from human experiences like fear, joy, pain to sustain themselves or power this reality.

Neal Girandola (09:34)
Yeah.

What does that mean?

What does it mean?

Android (09:52)
That means

that there, anytime you laugh, anything, they're sucking that essence from you.

Neal Girandola (09:58)
my god. Imagine living your life thinking that.

Android (10:00)
And listen to

this, it's designed to evoke strong emotions. like anger or fear to maximize production and harvest.

Neal Girandola (10:11)
That's dark.

Android (10:13)
Yeah. And then

douche harvest, which is, uh, it's just all about cleanliness. It deals with vinegar and water and a tube. Take it.

Neal Girandola (10:15)
What's that? Yeah. So whenever you clean yourself, they take that from you. Like they're sucking

the cleanliness. Yeah. From your douche. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Totally. All right. Totally makes sense. All right. Well, that was fun. I love going on the stuff. We'll do that from time to time. I think that's a good time. All right. Are you?

Android (10:31)
That's what fuels their ships, their gasoline. Right.

You know, that's, you know

what, I think they got that from, did you ever see It? Did you ever read the book It? Stephen King's It? So like the clown was an alien and he sucked fear from people and it fed him.

Neal Girandola (10:48)
I didn't read it, but I know it. Yeah.

⁓ okay.

now I'm really scared because I am home alone right now. I should be fine. I'll be all right. All right. Let's get to the story that, you know, sort of that started this early days of sphere talk. And this is why we're doing this story because of the well, I didn't want to say the Booga sphere, right? But this is not what this story is. But this is the sphere that came around.

Android (11:02)
or you know, why aren't you like this?

Good.

Neal Girandola (11:23)
Well, one of the mainstream stories that was out

back in, 1974, it is, uh, it started with a family brush fire, and then it ended with one of the weirdest investigations in UFO

And you're going to, you're going to hear a lot of similarities, I think of, uh, the Buga Sphere and this, and if you haven't already,

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Android (11:50)
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Neal Girandola (11:54)
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Android (11:59)
Thanks for subscribing.

Neal Girandola (12:06)
It's mostly true alien encounter of the Betz sphere.

Okay. This took place in April of 1974.

in Fort George Island near Jacksonville,

April 1974 brush fire burned across st. George Island just east of Jacksonville, Florida and when the smoke cleared

Jerry and their 21 year old son Terry

were surveying their property for damage when Terry spotted something strange half buried in the

It was a smooth metallic sphere about eight inches in diameter, weighed just over 22 pounds,

and it had a faint triangular logo stamped near one side and a small elongated blemish like a scar. Otherwise, it looked perfect, mirror smooth and seamless, and they took it home

thinking it might be part of a satellite or machinery from nearby shipyards. But a few days later, things got pretty

Terry brought out his guitar, because he's a guitar player.

And when he started playing, the sphere began to vibrate. And then when pushed, it seemed to roll on its own.

Android (13:17)
I wonder what he was playing.

Neal Girandola (13:19)
Probably playing something really good. I mean, something that got that sphere, you know,

Android (13:24)
74, let's see, he could have played any of Hendrix's licks, he could have done Stairway to Heaven possibly, Was that out by then? I don't know.

Neal Girandola (13:28)
May have came out. Could have. I bet it was stairway to heaven. I bet it was that. I don't know, but you

know, it just brings back memories of Jaime Masson bringing in singers to sing to the Boogasphere. Seriously, have you seen that? They had an opera singer standing next to the sphere singing and then they would go, look, Yeah, and then they'd hold the meter up against it and he goes, look, it's responding to your beautiful voice.

Android (13:40)
I love you boo-

You are the most beautiful sphere I have ever seen

No, the meter's reading the guy's voice.

Neal Girandola (13:59)
I just love there's so many similarities to this. This is why I love this

okay. So Terry's playing his guitar. He's playing, uh, he's playing stairway to heaven and, um, the sphere began to vibrate and then it put them when they, now they're just playing with it, right? Because it's vibrating. Now they're, let's push it. They push it and it just rolls on its own, you know, cause when you push a ball, usually does roll.

Android (14:23)
no, it rolled back to

Yeah, yeah, I'll talk about that in a second. So don't don't mock the ball.

Neal Girandola (14:25)
it did? Okay. All right. All right. All right. I like this. Okay. All right. That's why you're on the show. All right.

All right. So anyway, it was changing direction as if it was responding to these unseen forces that would freak me out. All right, then it emitted these faint beeps and hums and it was, you know, pulsing in rhythm.

Android (14:38)
Right. Yeah.

Neal Girandola (14:47)
Yeah, like

And then beeps.

about beeps? Yep.

Android (14:50)
We're...

Neal Girandola (14:51)
Another home, think another home Okay, then then the family said it moved away from people Like just was trying to get away from people and furniture as though it was just guiding itself So it was like net navigating through his 1974 Roomba they thought round was the way to go like a round ball would be the really good way to make

Android (14:54)
Peace.

It's a rumba. It's a rumba.

Didn't

suck up a lot though. It was really, really bad design.

Neal Girandola (15:18)
then they were using it to massage their backs and stuff. That feels so good. Oh my God.

Android (15:22)
I love this! ⁓ I got a set on it! Oop!

Neal Girandola (15:29)
right. And then the, and then somehow the local media picks up this story, right? They picked it up pretty fast. Cause I guess the family, uh, started talking about

reporters from the Jacksonville journal came to see it firsthand and they claimed

It really did behave as they were explaining it very odd. So it was rolling in figure eights. was stopping at the edge of tables as if it could sense drop-offs.

I mean, that's pretty freaky.

Android (15:55)
No, that's yeah.

Neal Girandola (15:57)
By mid-April, the story had gone national, and UFO groups called it proof of alien technology. Does this sound

Anyways, yeah, that's totally nothing.

Android (16:05)
No. I've

never heard anything like this before.

Neal Girandola (16:09)
Yeah. Yeah. Then they held a big press conference and ⁓ University of Mexico investigate. Yeah. No, that's not true. That's not part of the Wrong story. ⁓

Android (16:18)
Was Stephen Greer there? Because he talked about this sphere. He talked about

actually Greer brought up this sphere when he was there. Yeah, he brought it up.

Neal Girandola (16:24)
The best year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm surprised he didn't say he had it or showed a picture of himself with it.

All

so now all these UFO groups are saying it's it's proof that this is alien technology. Skeptics are saying it was probably just a military component. So some sort of test that got away from these military groups. Now somewhere in

All right.

Android (16:47)
secret

secret base

Neal Girandola (16:47)
All right. So right, but all of this, all of this hype then

brings in the Navy. So the Navy gets interested in this, which I don't, I've never heard. Does the Navy get involved in this stuff? But anyway, then so the Navy comes in and on April 19, 1974, the Betts family, they voluntarily, they give the sphere over to the Naval station, Mayport for

Android (16:58)
Yeah.

Neal Girandola (17:10)
Yeah. And then they're metallurgists. Well, I mean, I guess, yeah.

Android (17:09)
They just gave it to them. just like here, take this. It's our sphere, but take it. It's okay.

Neal Girandola (17:17)
Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't call Jaime, the son and hand it to him, but they didn't know him then. I'm even still in school. Yeah. But no, but that is odd. I don't think today people would just hand it over willingly to the

Android (17:21)
They didn't know him. Maybe they didn't know him. Steven Grew knew him, but yeah.

Neal Girandola (17:32)
I don't know if that's I'm out of school saying that, but I feel like that's the case. I don't think that that would be the

Android (17:31)
Right.

Neal Girandola (17:39)
so the here they do, they hand it over and at the Navy.

the Naval station may port, have a metallurgist who performs X-rays and material analysis. It's so funny. It's exactly what's happening with the boogasphere. And then they determined it was made of high grade stainless steel, specifically magnetic ferrous alloy. And it's hollow, but it has a density consistent with an industrial ball bearing or a pressure valve. So it has, it's very dense.

Android (17:53)
Right.

Neal Girandola (18:09)
And inside, the X-rays showed these three smaller spherical objects. Interesting. And a strange uniform density pattern. And I guess that means

those smaller spherical objects had the same density pattern as the outside density pattern.

Android (18:28)
Yeah, yeah.

And then in the final sphere inside, there was a little guy and he was like, Hello. Hello, please lift me up on the table so I can speak to you.

Neal Girandola (18:35)
Close the door.

Stop using me on your back.

the Navy, this is a Navy's conclusion. They conclude that there's no sign of explosives. Thank you.

After they've been playing with it for days in their house, the Navy finally says, yeah, I guess what? Yeah. Keep doing it. It's not going to Right. Don't don't feed it after midnight.

Android (18:53)
Hey guys, go back, play guitar to it, sing to it, put it in the ba- just don't put it in the bathtub. Don't.

Neal Girandola (19:04)
no radiation coming from it and there's no internal mechanisms, which I don't know what they mean because they already said they're spherical objects.

Android (19:10)
No, because it hummed.

They were trying to figure out if there was something inside, wires or anything that would make it hum.

Neal Girandola (19:15)
Okay, okay, okay.

Okay, but but they couldn't they couldn't explain. They couldn't explain why it was behaving the way it was behaving though. And then they return the sphere to the Betz family like you but you you've witnessed all this strange activity with it. It is odd. It is it's clearly something alien. I'm not saying alien alien but alien. You're gonna give it back to the family. Okay, so that

Android (19:23)
Right.

Yep.

Definitely not.

Yeah, he

was an inventor. He invented, I tell you, it's the first Roomba. There's no, yeah, there's no government stuff on this thing. So just take it. It's not gonna explode. You can use it. Use it in your house. Give it to your friends. They'll use it.

Neal Girandola (19:47)
All right. All right. So the bit.

Yeah. All right. So the Betts family now they get it back from the

and that's when this independent investigation investigator he steps in and this guy is another metal or just named Dr. Carl Williston. He's from the Omega medals.

from Omega medals in Louisiana in Louisiana. Hi Carl from Omega medals doesn't sound real and he examines it next.

Android (20:21)
No. No.

Neal Girandola (20:24)
He reports that the sphere had unusual magnetic properties and emitted radio waves at around 540 kilohertz. That's an AM band territory kind of thing. I mean, it's so similar to the bugosphere. It's really something now. Yeah.

Android (20:40)
Right, right. And they put a stethoscope next to it. And it was like,

you've reached Kix 95.

us a phrase that

Alien AM, give us a phrase that pays.

Neal Girandola (20:51)
here. We're the

Alright, deal with it. AM

Android (20:53)
Deal with it.

Neal Girandola (20:56)
so then he says Will Williston determines or he says it might be a sophisticated guidance system or surveillance device.

interesting. I love I love

was a conversation we also had about the boogas sphere, but it's funny. So many similar areas. right. Meanwhile, the university of Florida's physicist, Dr. J. A. Harder, he now says it was probably manmade. This guy, I don't know where he came in, but he came in, he came in on it. I don't know if he he, he researched it, but he admitted, but admitted the internal reflections and vibrations were not typical. mean, it doesn't sound typical for sure.

Android (21:10)
Right. Right.

No, no.

Neal Girandola (21:35)
So within months, the Betts family grew tired of the media circus and they withdrew from public view. Just like that. They got tired of this

wanted to just sing to it by themselves and they wanted it. They wanted this sphere to themselves. They don't want anybody. Yeah. I'm the only one allowed to sing to it.

Android (21:49)
It's our sphere. It's my sphere, mama.

I play guitar to

Neal Girandola (21:55)
went on the road. It was like the Swiss family Robinson. They were doing shows with the sphere

now our next song.

Android (21:59)
Ladies and gentlemen,

the Sphere!

Neal Girandola (22:03)
on people gather.

just started

There he goes. They make it a

the best family.

Android (22:08)
How

does a

Neal Girandola (22:11)
look it's rolling and people start applauding. It's moving. It's moving to that song

Android (22:13)
All we are is fears

in the wind

Neal Girandola (22:18)
darkness my old friend.

Android (22:17)
are just... ⁓

Neal Girandola (22:20)
I've to see you again.

Android (22:21)
within the sound of spheres.

Neal Girandola (22:25)
are just it's sold out. Another sold out performance of the Betz family spheres.

Android (22:30)
They just put it up on the frickin' pedestal, put lights on it, it does nothing. Then they come out and they sing, right.

Neal Girandola (22:33)
And it does nothing, but he just sings in front of it. just sings in front of it.

what a wonderful show. It's better than

Android (22:41)
It actually would have been better than Jesus Christ Superstar.

Neal Girandola (22:43)
my God. All

right. So within months, so the Betts family, they grew tired of this, the media circus, they withdrew from public view. They stopped their music

by 1975. we're talking about a year later. The sphere had vanished from the headlines and soon after from a traceable record, couldn't, no one could ever find some clay.

Android (22:58)
Basically a year, yeah. Give or take.

Neal Girandola (23:10)
Some are claiming that it was confiscated by the military, which kind of makes sense to me. I mean, I don't see that. I don't know why the Navy would have handed it

but others say the Betts family kept it in a bank vault. They kept it in

⁓ local savings and loan in a bank vault.

Android (23:26)
Give me the key. want to go look at the sphere and sing to it, mama.

Neal Girandola (23:27)
Yeah.

Mama take me to the bank

Android (23:33)
Take me to the bank so I can kiss the spear and sing to it. He's like, huh, spear. Huh, spear. I'm gonna sing a song to you now.

Neal Girandola (23:37)
Stop kissing your monkey.

It got really weird. got real Terry. That's why they had to take the sphere away from Terry. Terry, they're walking in on him. He's doing things this fear. It started with guitar

Android (23:51)
It took the scare away from Terry! ⁓

He's like, I love you so much. You are so beautiful and smooth.

Neal Girandola (24:04)
and then it then even take it out to dinner.

Like the restaurants and

All right. Anyway, so its last confirmed appearance was actually in St. Petersburg times in a St. Petersburg times photo. that was in May of 1974. And that was the last that the public

I do want to point out that also during the same decade, ⁓ cause we'd like to talk about the reports of other sightings.

Android (24:27)
Right, right.

Neal Girandola (24:31)
There were other mysterious metal spheres that surfaced worldwide. And the one was the Kara UFO orb that was in Japan in 72. And then you had the council Bluffs sphere that happened in Iowa in 1975. They all exhibited the similar sizes, the metallic composition and unexplained motion behavior, just like the Betz.

Android (24:50)
Right.

Neal Girandola (25:02)
we can get into those spheres in another episode, but they had some interesting stuff behind them as

so the theories where this was an extraterrestrial

was a spy or satellite

Other theories came out saying it was an art sculpture. ⁓

Android (25:18)
Right, right.

Neal Girandola (25:21)
might be his lost stainless steel buoy design. This guy, James Dirling Jones, he claimed that that was his from a shipping project in the area. very interesting. People jumped on the case of

Android (25:26)
Yeah, yeah, that's a theory, right.

Neal Girandola (25:35)
right. So that's the best spheres. Whereabouts remain unknown. The family, which are now largely private, has never sold or exhibited

Most modern researchers, including military historian Robert Schaeffer, suspect it was an industrial valve sphere used in paper mills or natural gas piping.

the mystery still

Every replica tested since has failed to reproduce the reported rolling and sound effects, meaning that valve sphere theory doesn't add up. all right, so we're 50 years later.

one's seen the Bet Sphere. And that is our Mostly True Alien report. Now I'm gonna hand it over to you, Andrew, fill in the blanks, and then let's weigh in on whether we think the Bet Sphere is a Mostly True Alien story or

gonna hand it over to Andrew. Go ahead,

Android (26:24)
Okay. So this

I found it fascinating. ⁓ It's a cool story and dude, I'm going to add to more coolness to this story. ⁓ this this is, they said the sphere would be more active when it was in sunlight, as if it was possibly solar

Neal Girandola (26:28)
It's a cool story.

⁓ this is what I love about you.

Android (26:42)
As you mentioned, eight inches in diameter, triangle shape stamped into the top.

Neal Girandola (26:42)
⁓ okay.

Now eight inches,

eight inches in diameter, that's like that. That's not big. That's like a ball. It's a ball you could hold in your hand, one hand.

Android (26:51)
It's not that big. Right. they, and they

know this because Terry, you know, they got it. This is what's the craziest thing. They found this thing. They thought it was cool. They brought it in their house. They just put it in the window. Now interesting about the Betts family is that they were, they weren't super wealthy, but they were well off enough. So they never did anything for

This was never for money. They never, you know, gained any. They had money. Yeah. So it didn't matter. Right. Cause you know, he had like a huge guitar collection. Huge.

Neal Girandola (27:12)
Mm-hmm. They had money. They had money, Yeah.

Android (27:21)
Terry put it in the window, forgot all about it. ⁓ he and a friend were playing guitar one day.

Neal Girandola (27:26)
It

does sound like that they just handled the they took they took the sphere for granted. I mean, just leaving it laying around and putting on tables with seeing if it'll roll off.

Android (27:32)
Yeah.

Neal Girandola (27:35)
I mean, this is a with

this is if this is alien technology that they found or something they discovered it is just leaving on their window. You know what I mean? Like anybody can just grab it. How do you forget about that? They ran from the media attention because it was too much. How do you forget about the best sphere? All right, go ahead. I didn't forget about it.

Android (27:42)
He forgot about it. They forgot about it said they forgot about it. They just forgot

this way let me get there you're not letting me get there

they were playing guitar one day and they heard a humming sound and he realized that the sphere was buzzing ⁓

Neal Girandola (28:01)
What was the humming sound? was the humming sound?

Okay. And beepy. Yeah.

Android (28:07)
Beep. All right, so he

realized that the sphere was buzzing. When he played closer to the sphere, the closer he would get,

Neal Girandola (28:18)
It would... ...play with it. That's interesting.

I love that, that aspect of this story because it is reacting. It does bring it to life for you because it's responding to the music in that regard that it is making its own sound. It's cool.

Android (28:38)
Yep.

So he decided that he would hit it with a hammer. Here, yeah. Yep. I think he got hit in the head with a hammer.

Neal Girandola (28:43)
What the f this is Terry is something wrong with Terry. Well, do we know if anything was wrong with Terry?

I'm

gonna hit it with a hammer now.

Android (28:53)
This is my girlfriend. You be nice to me, Sphere. I love you.

Neal Girandola (28:57)
He's like a spoiled brat. got he's got a trust fund and he's just like yeah Yeah, I got alien tech. I got any other tech. I'm gonna use it

Android (29:00)
He's just eating this here with a hammer. You just see him doing this,

All right, so he...

This could be my new bead.

Neal Girandola (29:11)
huh. Yeah.

Alright, so why's he hit it with a hammer? That's stupid.

Android (29:14)
He just wanted

to see what would happen, right? And he said it made like a gong sound.

Neal Girandola (29:19)
I wonder if this was before or after the Navy took it. ⁓ okay.

Android (29:21)
This was before the Navy took it. So he gathered

the family around and they watched it roll around.

Neal Girandola (29:26)
Wait, the family was like, you hit it with the hammer, Terry! Yeah, do it, Terry!

Android (29:29)
No, no, he did that and

he brought it out to the living room because it started rolling in his room. He brings it out to the living room. He said, ⁓ he gathered the family around, they watched it roll around and when it stopped, it would vibrate. So then they put the ball on a glass table.

Neal Girandola (29:44)
So wait a minute, Terry, let's just back up. Terry finds this in that fire. By the way, the fire that happened, they don't know what started it.

That whole brush fire. Yeah. Terry started it. And so Terry is like, Well, Terry, Terry, Terry either started it or, or, or the sphere did the sphere caused a brush fire because it could brush brush. So that was a very mysterious fire. They never, never solved what started it, but the

Android (29:55)
I'm find my spear. It's out here. gonna burn it.

The sphere could have caused the fire, dude. Yeah, totally.

Neal Girandola (30:14)
But Terry binds the sphere brings it into the house and then he doesn't tell anybody he's got it. He's just playing with it. He's just doing things with it. Yeah, but just the whole gather round everyone. I want to show you something thing is weird. It's just so much a weird thing. Okay.

Android (30:21)
No, no, the family knew the family knew they found it. The family knew they found it. Right. Right. OK, so here's OK, here's here's where it gets weird. OK, so he said

they put it on the glass table and it rolled. Well, he just wanted to see what was inside. Maybe. ⁓

Neal Girandola (30:32)
What's weird is he's going to hit it with a hammer. That's what's weird too. What was he like with his the cat and

the dog they had the like, you know what mean? Like, are you just cruel? Yeah. Mama killed another cat.

Android (30:41)
Why do you

Neal Girandola (30:49)
That's exactly... This guy sounds like that.

Android (30:51)
They were just mounds

in their backyard of buried animals. No, okay. Okay, so it rolled around. Okay, they put it on the glass table and it rolled around the table. Then they lifted the table to try to get it to fall off and it rolled up and didn't fall. Did you hear what I just said? They lifted the freaking glass table up and the thing didn't fall off. It rolled back up towards them. They said it.

Neal Girandola (30:54)
Terry, I'm sure you're not like that, but it sounds like it. Okay, go ahead.

It's family. The aliens are... Wait, did what? Yeah.

Mm. Okay.

Android (31:22)
Okay. This is this is alien abuse.

Neal Girandola (31:22)
They're abusive. is the aliens are like the aliens are like

we got it for the poor sphere. We he's in the wrong hands. Yeah, it's like it is just it's like the Goonies man. It's like

Android (31:29)
We are never coming to this planet.

So, so they said they shook it and it reacted like a Mexican jumping bean and it tried to get away from them. They talked about it having a magnetic

and when it rolled, the more it rolled, the stronger the magnetic field got.

Neal Girandola (31:52)
That's very, very

Android (32:06)
Okay.

photographer from the Jackson Jacksonville journal came by his name was Lon Anger.

Neal Girandola (32:13)
Okay.

Android (32:13)
and Lon

rolled the ball and it rolled away then shifted it rolled about eight feet away and came back and this guy didn't believe in anything and now all of sudden he's like man this is crazy right

Neal Girandola (32:27)
I

wonder if anybody filmed it. I know it's 74.

Android (32:30)
Now think they do

have I think they do have film footage of them in their house with that old, you know, millimeter camera, no sound, just the rolling. So they couldn't even hear like Terry's guitar solos. They just show him playing like he's not even probably not even playing. Okay. So tons of. I hate you. You don't love me anymore. Bang. Just like the dog. You're just like the dog. ⁓

Neal Girandola (32:36)
Yeah. No sound. Yeah.

Yeah.

Or him or him cursing cursing at the sphere and kicking it. You suck. You're asleep.

You're in the closet tonight.

Android (33:01)
You're sleeping there, Spear, I hate you. Okay, so they got tons of media coverage. Well, this started sparking

first scientist that came by was Dr. Carl Williston of the Omega minus one Institute.

Neal Girandola (33:12)
Mm-hmm.

Right. Yep.

Is that a government institute or what? No, it's just a... Yeah. Yeah.

Android (33:21)
Okay, so here's where it gets weird. They ran six hours of tests and

the sphere ⁓ emitted radio waves. Not only did he find that, but he found that it was made of stainless steel

And then he found an element of unknown

Neal Girandola (33:35)
I don't know what that is.

but it's stainless steel 431 is just normal whatever is that ⁓ yeah okay right but then they found an unknown element you said

Android (33:42)
I it's a type of stainless steel. All he knew it wasn't stainless steel for 32.

Yes, unknown

Now here's where it gets weird. There is no record of a Dr. Carl Williston from the Omega minus one Institute. So they think that he was actually some foreign operative that came in. Okay.

Neal Girandola (33:58)
Awesome, ⁓

It's brilliant. It's brilliant.

It's brilliant that, you know what, it probably was very easy to do something like that back then. Just as you heard about the sphere and then, you're gonna pretend you're from this Institute. I need to inspect the sphere. I'm gonna come out and I'm gonna do X, Y, Do it.

Android (34:10)
Right. Yep. Yep. Yep. So you had mentioned

that the Navy came, right? And they took it, right? And they discovered that it was magnetic. They said that the

Neal Girandola (34:21)
Mm-hmm.

Well, wait a minute. Wait,

wait, I want to do you know, and it's okay if you

What's happening first? This Omega guy comes in first? Or does the Navy come first? Or who? Because I thought of the Betz went to the Navy first, and then they get this beer back.

Android (34:32)
⁓ The Navy, right? The Navy, the Navy was first, right? Let me go

Okay, so the Navy came and they took it

they determined that it was magnetic. They said that it was stainless steel 431 and ⁓ they said that the material that it was made of which used in aerospace and missile

Neal Girandola (34:47)
Mm-hmm.

Android (34:55)
It showed no signs of rust. weighed approximately 21.8 pounds, no visible seams, no markings other than the triangle. It was perfectly balanced. And when it was scanned, it had three more spheres inside. It was denser. And then there was an unidentified material. And it emitted a a weak magnetic field. So they had no explanation of what this was, other than possibly a large ball bearing.

Neal Girandola (35:08)
Mm-hmm.

Hmm.

So then the Navy

also said there's an unidentified material in it, okay

Android (35:25)
Yes. Yeah. And

it said, ⁓ after two weeks, they returned it because they were like, it's not government property. There's no us government stamp on it. So it's yours to keep. Right now. Here's weird too, dude. This thing could withstand 120,000 pounds of pressure. They put it like in a, in a press, but I wonder what happened if they would have gone to 130, 130.

Neal Girandola (35:39)
Yeah.

Why are they trying to? Why?

Why did they think that's the test we're going to do? Let's try to crush it.

Android (35:56)
Well, they wanted to see if it was gonna pop open.

Neal Girandola (35:59)
Yeah, but still, that's not the way you go about it. I'm credit to Jaime Masson. He doesn't want to cut it open. Open the Boogasphere.

Android (36:06)
Well, here's the thing,

the Navy guy talked to Terry and he was like, well, I hit it with a hammer. I want to try to crush it because it's...

Neal Girandola (36:12)
well then I'm gonna try to crush it. Yeah, the kindred spirits. Kindred spirits,

you did? And what did you do when you hit it with that hammer? Cause I'm gonna crush it.

Android (36:20)
It hummed.

It gonged is what it did. It gonged.

Neal Girandola (36:25)
do when he slept with it?

Android (36:26)
That was the inspiration for power stations. Get it all bag and go get it all. Cause bang a sphere didn't sound good. ⁓ Changed it to the sound that actually made. Okay. So

Neal Girandola (36:35)
It changed. like that. Okay. All right. So all

this shit goes on and now they got the Betz. The Betz family has the sphere back.

Android (36:45)
they have this fear back and then these they do the they ⁓ what's called the journalist comes the media makes a big storm the first scientist Carl Williston comes who's a fake there's nobody by that name okay sure doesn't exist the guy doesn't exist and then second dr. James harder came

Neal Girandola (36:50)
Mm-hmm. Yep.

Yeah.

Android (37:05)
and he confirmed what Williston's findings and I'm like, well, who cares? The fake doctor's findings. But he said the internal sphere was composed of a material with an atomic number of 140.

Neal Girandola (37:09)
The fake doctor's findings.

What does that mean?

Android (37:20)
so atomic numbers are the number of protons an element has, right? So the highest number in nature, recorded nature is 92 and that's uranium.

Neal Girandola (37:28)
OK.

Android (37:30)
Now scientists have tried to increase protons, but the highest they were ever able to get to was

140.

Neal Girandola (37:36)
But this one has 140.

Okay, but now what does that mean then? It's just an unknown composition of whatever. Yeah, for me, it just means that the sphere likes music.

Android (37:44)
I don't know. Just an unknown thing for me. I don't know. I'm not a physicist. Yeah. Yeah.

and it likes to be kissed no hammer and crying to crush no no but kissing and coddling and singing too it loves kissing it loves kissing okay no

Neal Girandola (37:54)
It does not like to be hammered. Loves kissing. It does not like Terry. It hates Terry.

Android (38:08)
so harder dr. harder thought it could be a damaged alien probe or some sort of anti-gravity device that's what he

Neal Girandola (38:17)
But

he felt it was damaged?

Android (38:20)
It's yeah, I guess because it's not flying.

Neal Girandola (38:21)
It seem damaged,

it's doing all kinds of... it's supposed to be... So it never flew. They never saw anything fly.

Android (38:27)
It was supposed to vacuum up the dust in their house and it just never did. We have made this atomic powered Roomba as a sphere for your home. Best thing ever.

Neal Girandola (38:39)
What if

what if Terry was in the backyard parents were out he's lighting off illegal fireworks that he got and he shoots one up if the sphere was flying he hits

Android (38:47)
sets of fire.

Neal Girandola (38:51)
and it fell down into the into the ground the brush fire is now starting the fire and then Terry's like boy I screwed

Android (38:54)
started the fire.

Neal Girandola (39:02)
and then that thing couldn't fly again

Android (39:04)
Hmm.

No, it never flew. just rolled around like...

Neal Girandola (39:05)
You like that theory?

Yeah. Interesting. So

So, so this one guy, what's his name? The last doctor. He he's the one who felt that it probably flew at one point.

Android (39:14)
Dr. Harder. Harder.

He's just said it was a damaged alien probe. Now don't know if that means the type of probe that goes in your butt or if that's the probe that's flying in the sky. Don't really know.

Neal Girandola (39:27)
I'm

an eight inch sphere in your butt is a big, is a big broke.

Android (39:30)
Well, we don't know how big aliens

are.

Neal Girandola (39:35)
true it's like fisting this is like double fisting

Android (39:36)
Okay, so there's a there's a third doctor that comes

Excuse me, you have discovered one of our anal beads. Please return it.

No, bang, bang. I gotta make it smaller. Doesn't fit. Okay, so doctor, the third scientist comes Dr. J. Allen Hynek. He's an astronomer. He's a professor. He worked. This guy worked on Project Blue Book. He confirmed all the findings. Okay.

Neal Girandola (39:54)
Okay. All right. All

Okay. Okay. This guy is legit.

Okay. ⁓ okay. He did. Okay.

Android (40:12)
So now a whole group of scientists come to the Betz's home and they offer them $750,000 for the sphere.

Neal Girandola (40:17)
Mm.

Did the best family take it?

Android (40:23)
Nope.

They said that these guys were probably some sort of foreign government trying to acquire the sphere.

Neal Girandola (40:25)
Why?

Yeah, so.

Android (40:32)
They didn't sell it to them.

Neal Girandola (40:33)
it's Terry's only friend. It's Terry's only friend.

Android (40:35)
I'm not giving up, it's very free.

Okay, so, so here's where it gets funny.

Neal Girandola (40:43)
I would have taken

that. I would have taken that 750,000 bucks. Yeah, if I can take

long as I can visit it every now and again, can I visit it? That would be the deal. I'd make. I need to come see it once a month. I think they would have agreed to that too. I think they would have agreed.

Android (40:48)
mentioned that

rub on it let's sing to it

and play guitar and sing to it because it really likes that a lot please no ⁓ no we cannot do

this no no no no we will not allow you to see this once we have this video it is awesome no but

Neal Girandola (41:07)
You gotta give me something. Alright,

then I want a million bucks.

Android (41:15)
So, okay. So you mentioned the sphere going to New

You didn't. I thought you did. Did you not? Okay. So it went to, it went to New Orleans. ⁓ it like, it rolled, it rolled all the way to New Orleans. Yep. Yep. Cause it was in the sun and that powered it. Okay. The national

Neal Girandola (41:18)
I didn't it did. No. on its own. It's like, I'll be back from Florida to New Orleans. Yeah. No. So, so why did it go to who took it to New Orleans?

Android (41:39)
had a gathering and they had a UFO panel and they took it there.

Neal Girandola (41:38)
cool. Okay. And that was the special guest.

That was the special guest.

Android (41:44)
It's here. Ladies

and gentlemen, the sphere.

Neal Girandola (41:47)
The Betts Family Sphere show.

It was just that

Android (41:51)
And it just sat there. didn't do anything.

Neal Girandola (41:53)
So really the National Choir had an event and they paid to have them come. I wonder if they, I wonder if the Betts family is getting paid for this appearance stuff.

Android (41:58)
They paid.

I don't know. think they were just because it was a UFO panel. They thought that. Okay. So while they were there and they were being examined by the by the by the National Enquirer UFO panel, Terry gets a call, an emergency call saying that his mother was ill.

Neal Girandola (42:10)
Yeah.

Terry's there in New Orleans with the sphere at this national choir thing. His fan, his parents are at home. Okay.

Android (42:20)
Yeah, yeah.

Yep, yep, so

he went home, but he left the sphere there. He flew back afterwards and he found out that his mom wasn't sick. So he flies back and the sphere was gone.

Neal Girandola (42:28)
Ugh, this guy. This guy.

Mm-hmm.

Android (42:40)
The UFO panel took it to run tests.

sphere.

Neal Girandola (42:44)
So this

this guy Terry's a dumbass

Android (42:47)
Here's where it gets crazy. Okay. So the, they, they, the UFO panel took it and he finds out that they took it. Right. And so he's like, I got to get the spear back. They're like, look, we're just running tests on it and then we'll give it back to you. Okay. We got it. We got it.

Neal Girandola (42:47)
Okay.

Mm-hmm.

We're fine. We got it. We got it. It's okay. Everything's okay. We got the sphere. Don't worry, you'll get it back.

Android (43:04)
they got the spear

and it, it got it back and it was a different two weeks.

Neal Girandola (43:05)
they did get it back. How long after that?

Okay.

Android (43:11)
and it was a different sphere.

Neal Girandola (43:13)
my God. Wait, did this is what Terry said? Is it's not the sphere.

Android (43:14)
So they x-rayed it. Yep.

Yep. And so, ⁓ you know, that guy, Dr. Hynek, that I mentioned earlier, he was on the panel. On the panel. So they x-rayed this sphere that they got back, and there was a seam on this sphere now that wasn't there before. Didn't have. And it appeared to have like dust inside.

Neal Girandola (43:27)
Mm. Okay.

Hmm. The other one was didn't have. ⁓

Android (43:45)
So they said they never trusted Heineck, right? They never trusted Heineck. Now here's where it gets interesting. When Heineck died, no.

Neal Girandola (43:46)
I wonder...

Well, you know what, you know what, the the Betts family didn't handle this right. They didn't

manage this sphere properly. If it was really leaving it on the window, hitting it with hammers, freaking thrown it off tables and shit. I mean, they just, they weren't responsible.

Android (43:58)
So.

So when Heineck died, when Dr. Heineck died, his son said, I don't know what it was. I just know that he died. And when he died, his son said that his dad had a metal

Neal Girandola (44:08)
Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what year this was when he died? Okay, yeah, okay.

Android (44:18)
that had something to do with the UFO case from Florida.

Neal Girandola (44:22)
Okay, so his son was probably very young when this all went down and he knew things about okay.

Android (44:25)
Yeah. Yeah. His dad must

talked about it. Man. I bamboozled those guys and took their sphere. Now I love sphere. We're in love. Son. This is your mom's fear. Sing to your mama boy. Do

Neal Girandola (44:31)
That Betts family? Dumbasses. Sing to it. Sing to it. Sing!

Android (44:43)
All right.

Neal Girandola (44:44)
darkness my old friend. Okay, go ahead.

Android (44:48)
So the Betts family after that, they just disappeared. They went out of the limelight. I guess they were like, how could you be so stupid to give the spiritist or leave the sphere behind? That's what I guess they got tired of hearing. Damn, Terry, you're an idiot. no, no. They start hitting himself in the head with a hammer.

Neal Girandola (45:02)
Probably. When I started that fire.

guess there's really nothing they could do when they discovered that this fear that they got back was not the fear that they had found. I mean, now what do you do? What are going to call the cops? What are they going to do? Was anybody going to do nothing? You you you f'd up.

Android (45:20)
Right. right. Well,

right. We don't know really what this fear was. So they're trying to say that the reason why it rolled on the Betts family floors is because their floors weren't level. But that doesn't really explain why it would come back up a table, you know, but the Betts family is the only ones that saw it do that. No one else saw it do that. Right. They thought there is video of it rolling around on the floor.

Neal Girandola (45:41)
Well, that's the thing. And there's no video.

Does it look like it's an uneven floor and that would cause it?

Android (45:50)
think it's a, no,

it's like it was a flat floor, but I think there's a little hamster inside that wheel.

Neal Girandola (45:53)
Yeah.

They put something in it. You know that dog ball that they have that automatically rolls by itself? It's that.

Android (45:58)
Make it real.

Yeah, that's

what, what the father discovered. He created that. I mean, ⁓ yeah, that's why they were so rich came out later. Okay. So the, the idea behind this is that it could be, have been a down satellite or what they like to call a foo fighter.

Neal Girandola (46:07)
Made millions. Uh-huh.

A foof fight, for real?

Android (46:22)
That's what they're called. That's where Dave Grohl's got the name of the band from. That's why their stuff has aliens and stuff all on it and guns, alien guns and stuff.

Neal Girandola (46:24)
Yeah. Yeah.

So

they're thinking it was a satellite that some government agency launched into space and it came down or is a satellite probe from aliens? Yeah, but what do you think? What do you think they're insinuating? No, but is what was that what they were insinuating that it's a government thing? Okay.

Android (46:36)
Possibly, no. They don't say. And then I think it's probably some government thing. I don't think it's an alien.

Yeah, that's a government thing. And they said

that during, now this is where it got kind of weird when I dug into this a little bit more. During World War II, Allied fighters encountered UFOs that were similar to these spheres that were able to move fast around their planes. And so they would see these things flying around and they said they moved at incredible speeds. Now another theory is that this is actually, I can't even say this, an alien atomic weapon.

Neal Girandola (47:03)
Mm-hmm.

boy. Mmm-bye.

Android (47:18)
that this guy's freakin' baggin' with a hammer. What's in it? Bang! ⁓

Neal Girandola (47:21)
leaving it

on windowsills and yeah

Android (47:26)
Whatever you do, don't put it in the sun. The sun powers it, and when it gets fully charged, it's gonna explode and just annihilate Florida.

Neal Girandola (47:35)
I, but I, has anyone has any theory or anything that you found like explain why it would have been in Florida and why it would have been like in that area? it near something? Was it, you know what I mean? Like what,

Android (47:47)
Right.

Neal Girandola (47:52)
could see in New Mexico, uh, you know, I don't know, whatever, wherever location, Antarctica, what are we, you know, finding things like that there? Why in this guy's rich backyard in Florida?

Android (47:59)
Right. Right. Well,

They also mentioned, know, that guy, James, what was his name? The artist. ⁓ You had mentioned it. Yeah, the sculpture guy that it was he was he had an exhibit that was somewhere in Florida and they think that the ball that the spear might have rolled off of

Neal Girandola (48:11)
I a sculpture guy.

His name was ⁓ James Duraling

Android (48:21)
James, James Dierling, right,

Neal Girandola (48:24)
Yeah.

Android (48:23)
right. So that's a new,

a new theory is that, ⁓ but no evidence of this, the sculptor named James Dierle Jones, ⁓ who used large metal spheres in his modern art installations. Some believe it could have been misplaced or rolled off the back of a truck, although he never reported any of his art missing.

Neal Girandola (48:31)

Hmm.

Well, maybe he had so many, didn't realize it, right? I don't know. Maybe, maybe. Yeah,

Android (48:50)
Right. who's going to miss the 8-inch sphere?

Neal Girandola (48:53)
wow his spheres are very freaking cool

Yeah, these are eight inch diameter spheres that are very... Yeah, and look at... Well, now here's the images of

Android (49:02)
long and hard.

He's like kissing it.

Neal Girandola (49:12)
Harry

holding the hair he's always holding the hammer

Android (49:17)
like,

Neal Girandola (49:21)
yeah

Android (49:19)
you're gonna hum for me. Hum for

Hum for me.

I love you, Spear.

That's all I got for you, bro.

Neal Girandola (49:30)
well.

Dude, that was a lot though. That was great. That's good stuff. This is one of my favorite stories only because I think

Android (49:36)
Yeah.

Neal Girandola (49:39)
It adds the allure to it because of the boo the Boogasphere. You know, there's a lot of similarities in this story to what you know, has now been sort of commercialized through Jaime's Boogasphere.

Android (49:44)
boogas for your right.

Neal Girandola (49:54)
And it, there's a lot like you could say, could say if you were just to read about the Buga Sphere, but you read this first and then you saw the Buga Sphere or heard the Buga Sphere story, you'd say, Hmm. So there's a lot of similarities that were pulled from this, you know, that was in the Buga Sphere, especially the testing, the, you know, the talking about the electromagnetic.

Android (50:05)
Right.

Right. So when you say Boogasphere, do you mean La Esfera de Booga? Because I'm confused. I don't know. I only know it by La Esfera de Booga.

Neal Girandola (50:23)
pulsing and humming.

That's exactly what I mean. But what

Mm-hmm,

and how do you know the Bet Sphere now? Bye.

Android (50:38)
by a crazy guy with a frickin' hammer banging it.

Neal Girandola (50:40)

It's like a horror movie for aliens. just like, yeah, we're to go down and annihilate these people and then they land in the best backyard and shit goes wrong for them.

It's terrible. We're never going back to earth.

Android (50:50)
He's playing music! Stop playing! It's terrible music! The little guy inside's like, SOS! SOS! I'm under attack! I'm under

attack!

Neal Girandola (51:05)
That's why he's rolling his hole in his head and he's undulating. He's trying to get the fuck out. my god! Call for help!

Android (51:11)
If I hear Stairway to Heaven one more time!

Neal Girandola (51:15)
Poor aliens. Poor aliens. Alright

do you think that this is the best sphere is a mostly true alien story or not?

Android (51:27)
Absolutely not. It is not an alien story. This is some freaking ball bearing or metal valve thing. ⁓ the only thing they saw was rolling around on the ground. That's it. They could have just propelled it and you see it roll. You didn't see them like place it in the middle of the rug and then watch it roll back and forth. That that wasn't happening.

Neal Girandola (51:30)
It is not, you say it's not.

Android (51:53)
You know, they talked about putting it on the table. They talked about these people appearing and disappearing and come on. You know, the guy showed up in like in a trench coat and he's like, I'll give you 50 bucks if you just let me put the sphere under my jacket just for 15 minutes. Now go play guitar, boy.

Neal Girandola (52:11)
Well

Alright, so you say it's not a mostly true alien story. Alright. It is.

Android (52:17)
No, not a mostly true alias. So it's a great fricking story though. I

absolutely love it. And since we've been talking so much about la esfera de buga, this is like perfect. It's perfect.

Neal Girandola (52:28)
All right.

All right. Well, now it's my turn to weigh in. I have to say this is a tough one to sort of pin down for me because ⁓ I could easily say it is a mostly true alien story and I'm not there yet. I haven't I haven't fully weighed in. The problem is I have to take I have to give the benefit of the doubt that all these people that investigated except for the one guy who was not who turned out to be a fake. ⁓ Yeah, who disappeared, I guess they never they don't know where he is or where. Yeah, but

Android (52:51)
Dr. Carl Williston.

No, he never even existed.

Neal Girandola (52:57)
But who, who, but he, a guy came in his stead, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean that, truly happened. And then all of the investigations done by the Navy and by, Williston and all the other folks who are confirming that, listen, there's some unknown elements in here. Shit is happening. It was humming. was beeping. It was buzzing. Are you talking 1974?

Android (53:01)
right and he said hello my name is Dr. Carl Will and he had a card printed up

Neal Girandola (53:23)
That would be some advanced technology then to fake something like that, in my opinion, in an eight inch sphere. So I think the mistakes that were made along the way was that the Betts family didn't take the $750,000. Right? I think the other mistake is that Terry left it in New Orleans with those, that panel, the National Choir panel.

Android (53:38)
Right, right.

Neal Girandola (53:46)
And, and then, and then they lost it from there. He lost it from there. And the, and the reason that happened was because it was something unusual. And the, again, the mystery of the fire happening, how did the fire happen and the brush fire that is still an

And, ⁓ you know, it, responds to music. is doing these things that are unusual to the point where there were so many people involved and interested in it. They were getting offered money and then it was stolen.

So for me, this

Android (54:16)
Wait,

before you rule in, just want to say that stainless steel grade 431 is very

Neal Girandola (54:22)
Yes, but there was another but that's what they were saying. This is a common aluminum.

Android (54:26)
Right, but they're not going to be able to tell you what the material is inside from a freaking x-ray in 1974.

Neal Girandola (54:32)
point valid

valid valid point right they still can't tell us today but friggin they just tell us they tell us what they want us to think it is in the sphere you know at least that for this story it didn't have that kind of i don't know it didn't have that kind of snarky sort of dirty you know commercialism to it i don't think

Android (54:38)
because the sphere is gone.

Right. Right.

simple-minded boy playing guitar with his sphere.

Neal Girandola (55:03)
who likes to beat things with a hammer. Freaking kid. kid, you know what? I just feel bad for this fear. It's just like, yeah, that's terrible, terrible

Android (55:10)
I feel terrible for the sphere.

Neal Girandola (55:14)
So it is hard for me. This one's hard for me. ⁓

Android (55:20)
Is

it hard as a sphere?

Neal Girandola (55:22)
I will say this. I won't. That's hard as a sphere. will say this and this may be this this a probably piss off a lot of

I believe that the best sphere is more alien than the boogers fear. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Can I leave it there? Do I have to say it's mostly true? It's yeah. You know what? I'm going to say this that the best fear is a mostly true alien story and

Android (55:33)
Yes, and the Boogasphere 100 % 100 %

You have to, you gotta weigh in.

Neal Girandola (55:51)
I, I, I like you. I'd love this story. This is, this was fun.

Android (55:54)
I'm gonna try to,

I'm gonna find videos of Terry playing guitar. I'm just gonna randomly send them to you to torture you. And then three episodes from now you're gonna be like, guys, it's not a mostly true, because there's no way that thing wouldn't have

Neal Girandola (55:59)
He probably is.

Android (56:08)
figured out a way to fly out of his freaking house after hearing that horrible music.

Neal Girandola (56:11)
Yeah.

it. All right, so there you have it, the Bed Sphere. It's a family finds a mystery. The Navy investigates scientists scratch their heads and 50 years later, we're still wondering what it was and where it

And Andrew, thanks for all the info that you shared here. If you're listening, drop your theories in the comments. Was the Bed Sphere alien tech? You think it's more alien tech than the Booga Sphere?

was it a lost military hardware or just one very confused piece of

Make sure you subscribe, share the episode and join us next week for another Mostly True Alien encounter that blurs the line between fact and fantastic. Until then, be kind to the aliens when they get here. Thanks everybody. Thanks, Andrew.

Android (57:00)
Thanks Neil, bye.