Neal Girandola (00:05)
a small city in
girls walking home spot a creature crouched in the
oily skin, red eyes, and a head too large for its
dawn, the military
roll out covered in
before the week is
there are whispers of dead soldiers, secret autopsies, and a cover-up that locals still call
Brazil's
It's the Varginha alien
you believe? Let's get into
to another episode of Mostly True
Alien Stories.
Neal Girandola (00:54)
back to Mostly True Alien Stories, where we take one true reported alien encounter, we break it down and decide whether it's mostly true or not.
I'm Neil Girondola and with me,
it's the guy who'd probably try to interview an alien before calling for
Andrew Triana. Hi, Andrew.
Android (01:13)
How did you find that out? Is that on the dark web?
Wow, that's awful. That's awful. I don't like the whole gossip thing. I mean, yes, I did interview an alien and yes, I did call it in and yes, they were taken away.
It's unfortunate, but you know, it happens. It's par for the
Neal Girandola (01:31)
It is part of the course. But you know, today, Andrew, we're headed to Vardinha, Brazil, a story that starts with three teenage girls spirals into a full blown military operation and ends with an alleged alien body that no one's been able to find. This one's not a rumor. It's an entire city's legend. And nearly 30 years later, it's still unsolved. But before we get into that, make sure you hit that subscribe button if you haven't already.
Android (01:34)
huh.
Neal Girandola (02:00)
Yeah. So we can reach more aliens and you know, speaking of subscribes, I'm proud to announce that we've on our YouTube channel. We're now over 1600 subscribers.
tick tock channel has reached about 12,000 followers. Our Instagram is up to 7,000. I remember seven months ago when we first started doing this
was just me and you following each other. two of us.
Android (02:24)
Well, actually, I didn't start following into it. must've been somebody else. Yeah, I had to follow us, right?
Neal Girandola (02:26)
Right, I had to make you follow like a month ago. It was just me
following us.
You know, what else is working our, our, short videos that we put out, we just keep putting out those, three I Atlas videos are over, ⁓ over almost a million views on, those. It's just, you know, there people love it. They're talking about it like crazy. You know that, you know, right now three I Atlas is rounding.
the sun. it's in it's in the para helium stage, so to speak. So and what's interesting is, it's about to break through the sun glare and soon as it gets through the sun's glare and into the dark skies, then we're going to be able to start snapping pictures from that time all the way to December 19, when it's the closest to Earth, which is going to be very cool. But they did get some pictures of it, because it's as closest to the sun as it can be right now. And they got some images of it.
Android (02:53)
Right, right.
Neal Girandola (03:18)
is turning extremely blue, like glow blue that they've, you know, obviously have never seen this kind of thing before. But it also might be an indication. I mean, they're going to learn a lot from that and the chemistry, but it's also an indication. People are obviously saying, oh, it's a spaceship. It's got its heat shields. It activated its heat shields. And you know, that's why it's turning blue.
actually could possibly
not survive the sun. could just break up from as it rounds the sun.
Android (03:47)
Now,
now let me just go back on that theory of the heat shield, right? Of the spaceship. Okay. Yeah. So if it is a spaceship, why would they, is it a testing thing that they're doing? Let's see. Hey guys, we got to test our heat shields. Let's get really close to the sun to do that. Let's not forget about the gravity pull from the sun. That's not going to pull us in because we're going super fast. We're just going to see if those shields are going to last. Come on.
Neal Girandola (03:50)
The spaceship of the space real. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know. I, know,
I don't know enough about the science or the astronomy, the science of astronomy or the science of space kind of stuff like that. ⁓ but what I do love about this is it is, it is almost over saturated three. I Atlas talk everywhere you go. The theories, the error. mean, all of the conspiracies about this thing
Android (04:19)
Right.
That's so much. It's too much.
Neal Girandola (04:33)
just a comment,
there are many people that just say, it's not. No, it's not. It's, you know, prepare, prepare yourselves, you know, I mean, they truly believe that that's
Android (04:38)
It's a spaceship.
yeah, well October 29th is
when we were supposed to be invaded. It's the 31st. They're two days
But you know what? I bet they're late because the government shut down. They're probably waiting for the government to come back. And then they'll be like, now we're going to get
Neal Girandola (04:50)
Mm-hmm.
know, we, we did a, we did a post update on three, I Atlas,
for the 29th and immediately.
hundreds and hundreds and thousands of comments where the photo want to see the photos want to the photos, you know, and it was only the 20 it's only the
What was misunderstood was that, you know, that 29th is when it's closest to the sun, as I
it's a big day for three iatlas because it's almost like it's, you know, it's the beginning of the end for it because it is closest to sun is about to pop through.
Android (05:20)
Right.
Neal Girandola (05:22)
We're going to start getting pictures like by mid November, really good ones. And then even better by December 19th. But it's so funny how mad people get because they're just like, well, where's the next update? We want to see the photos. Well, it's the
Android (05:25)
Right, Well.
Well, right,
people are mad over that, but you know who's madder over all of this? The two I Atlas, completely forgotten about, completely, like they never even existed.
Neal Girandola (05:38)
Who's that? Yeah, I'm more more. Yeah,
I'm more more was like, what the fuck? Nobody made that big a deal about me.
Android (05:49)
I got a call yesterday from two I Atlas just ranting, just so upset, like just screaming at me. I'm like, why are you yelling at me? And they're really mad at you for doing all those videos on three. I, so I gave them your number. I told them where you live.
Neal Girandola (05:51)
I have so pissed.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, did you explain
that we didn't have our podcast when when ⁓ when when I love that you called to eyed atlas to eyed atlas
Android (06:07)
Two I Atlas came through. They don't care. That doesn't matter. They said that we should have known. it's, yeah, it's
two I Atlas is really, they're going to call you tomorrow. think. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (06:15)
into IALYS. You know what,
you know what else is cool is, um, I saw a report, I think you'll find this interesting.
from 1949 to 1957. All right. So studies, there were studies done of that time. I'm not saying that it was done during that time. It was just recently studies were made that, uh, affirm that something or someone could have been watching us from outer
Android (06:26)
Wow.
Okay, okay.
Neal Girandola (06:39)
let me explain. Yeah. Let me explain the study. It's it's actually
Android (06:39)
Really? Yeah, explain that
because that sounds like Roswell, right? It's about the same time as Roswell, 47 to 62, right? This is 49 to 57. Come on, let's put it together. Let's put it together. And think about, you know, Serpo and all that stuff. So yeah, go ahead. Sorry.
Neal Girandola (06:47)
Yeah, that's right. didn't add. As that's well, that's why you're on the show. Okay.
All right.
Well, this is very interesting. So according to a new study, I'm going to read it. ⁓ Something was observing nuclear tests from space before the satellite area era. So the satellite era was 57. ⁓ So, and yeah, and in an international team ⁓ of scientists led by astrophysicist Beatriz Villarul of the Nordic Institute for Theoretical Physics.
Android (07:11)
Right, right. Sputnik.
Neal Girandola (07:24)
published a discovery in the scientific reports and their study was they analyzed more than a hundred thousand astronomical photographs that were taken. So photographs taken between 1949 and 1957 and they identified a series of anomalous flashes of light known as transients. Now these points of light appeared to suddenly appear, rotate and then disappear.
Android (07:50)
Okay.
Neal Girandola (07:50)
And now the
study revealed that the frequency of these phenomena increased by 45 % during the days surrounding the first atmospheric nuclear
flashes displayed a highly reflective mirror-like glow and some displayed apparent rotation. So most notably, all the in images analyzed, as I mentioned, predate 1957. It's the year that we placed
first satellite into orbit. the team ruled out natural causes. This is the best is this line. They ruled out natural causes and optical failures. And they noted that if the recordings are authentic,
the objects would have to be, they would have to be non-human artificial structures. And now there was an image that accompanied this and they showed the comparison of that. You know, star constellation area, and it definitely is.
you see a notable difference in what, what we were seeing during that
Android (08:46)
Yeah, okay.
And you said this was from what, 1947 until?
Neal Girandola (08:51)
That was the time that they were, yeah, they, they did this study of just recently and they, looked at those astronomical images.
Android (08:58)
Okay, and when was Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I believe before 1947.
Neal Girandola (09:02)
Why what do you think? Why?
Well, why do you what? Yeah. So what is your
Android (09:07)
So
then what were they watching nuclear? There's no nuclear activity happening in 1947. It was all done by
Neal Girandola (09:13)
well, I don't know. You want to call them? You could ask them. You're mad at them.
Android (09:15)
Yeah, hold on.
Neal Girandola (09:16)
just find it interesting that they, you know, they're, kind of in this science study, you know, they're saying that they would have to be non-human artificial structures.
Android (09:22)
Yeah, but it's like,
you're noticing these structures in 1947, you know, and then they're trying to link it to nuclear activity. It makes no sense. Sorry, guys. If they had said from 1942 until 1957, that would be different.
Neal Girandola (09:34)
What did they do any nuclear tests?
Were they talking about doing nuclear tests in space or no? What is that? I'm not. No, probably not.
Android (09:44)
No.
Neal Girandola (09:45)
I think it's something that I think I hope
Android (09:49)
No, I think it's fascinating
that they found this, that they think that this was artificial alien life or alien life wouldn't be artificial life. It would be alien life observing us. But what are they watching? What was on TV then?
Neal Girandola (10:01)
Well, that's the question too, I guess.
There wasn't more to this report that I could find. I don't know what was on TV. ⁓
Android (10:08)
I love Lucy
was late 50s. Maybe that's what it was. That's what attracted them. Lucille balls annoying. ⁓
Neal Girandola (10:12)
Could have been.
We're
And then when they ended the show, they left.
Android (10:24)
They were like, I can't believe they canceled I Love Lucy. This is ridiculous. I can't watch My Three Sons. This is terrible. This is horrible.
Neal Girandola (10:29)
We're out of here. it's so,
it's coincidence that it just, no, but it correlated with the nuclear testing that was happening. Yeah.
Android (10:35)
stopped.
Well, they what you know they're trying to
Lucille ball that the I love Lucy show was
Boom mic drop. I'm out
Neal Girandola (10:47)
Probably probably it so there was
also there's
just saw a video is pretty interesting of this ⁓ cloaked Alien, did you hear about this?
a cloaked alien was caught in the home of this guy's house It was a gray alien. It appeared in in his house. The guy the guy who filmed it ⁓ Was his name?
Android (11:13)
On Sora, did
he film it on Sora?
Neal Girandola (11:15)
It was not on Sora though. It wasn't a Sora video. It wasn't an AI video.
But it was, ⁓ his name is Juanito
That was the guy's name. Juanito.
Android (11:24)
my God,
is this the same guy that had the alien in the box that treated it so poorly and then threw it in the jungle? Okay.
Neal Girandola (11:27)
It is it is it is not. Yeah, it's not that guy. That guy disappeared.
That guy disappeared. I don't know what happened to that guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The alien took him. But this guy wanted to one he he says it just appeared and he shows a video and it's it actually is pretty cool looking at these two different angles of it that he got.
Android (11:35)
His account is closed. Everything is like account disabled or whatever it says. ⁓
Neal Girandola (11:52)
And ⁓ then, you know, the viewers were saying it looks like he's wearing a cloaking suit because he kind of just appears. could see through them, but you see the whole body and all that stuff. And this guy, ⁓ he's been, but, it turns out this guy wanted a one kind of been doing this for a while. You know, he has orbs that visit his house and he's got visitations and he's got all this, you know, weird anomaly stuff that happens around him and his house. So.
Android (12:13)
⁓
Right.
Neal Girandola (12:21)
Do you see the figure in this house?
Android (12:23)
Yeah. ⁓ yeah, dude. That's that is completely cloaked. That's weird, actually.
Neal Girandola (12:30)
Yeah,
it's very still. The thing's not moving.
Android (12:34)
Yeah, it doesn't move. what does that mean? He
Neal Girandola (12:36)
Which is what to me makes
it seem a little off.
Android (12:40)
Yeah, because if he's cloaked, why wouldn't he move?
That doesn't make sense. And then this guy's got images of these spheres and stuff that are outside of his house. There's one that looks like a, actually looks like a UFO.
Neal Girandola (12:52)
that's one, eat a wand, baby.
Android (12:54)
Yeah, yeah, one, eight, a one. ⁓
Neal Girandola (12:57)
Are you debunking him?
Android (12:58)
I need is green screen. I could create the same thing.
Neal Girandola (12:59)
Are you?
no. You know what? I challenge you to do that.
Android (13:03)
Yeah.
Okay, I just got to buy a green screen. So let me talk to the producers about them giving me some money
Neal Girandola (13:10)
We got coupons.
Android (13:11)
No, dude, I got coupons for Circuit City. I'm going to go to Circuit City and buy that green screen.
Neal Girandola (13:16)
I would love to see if we could recreate something like, you know, maybe we should start doing things like that. See if we can recreate like videos that are submitted and you know, all of those things. Yeah, all of that. Yeah. We should try to recreate it, recreate that stuff. Yeah. I swear to God we should do that.
Android (13:24)
The Boogasphere.
Okay,
I'm gonna do, I promise you, I'm gonna do a Boogasphere-like video of me or someone that I know in the backyard watching the sphere float in the air. Okay. And I'm gonna film it. I'm gonna film it. And then we'll put it on mostly true. And then the people could decide if it's a mostly true alien story or not.
Neal Girandola (13:39)
That'd be great.
Okay, and film it. I would love that.
I love
it. See if they can tell if it was fake or not. That'd be very cool. All right. Before we try to explain what Brazil was hiding in 1996, hit that subscribe button. And Andrew, are you ready to get into this true report of an alien counter, the Vargena incident?
Android (14:00)
Right. OK.
Varginia. Yes, Virginia, Virginia, Virginia. It's almost like vagina, but without the with an R.
Neal Girandola (14:18)
Virginia, Virginia, Virginia.
Well, no, I looked up the pronunciation and Virginia Yeah, right. Yeah, so just long as
Android (14:27)
Virginia Virginia. Yeah, did you do it on
did you do it on Google
How do you say this Google
and it was like?
Neal Girandola (14:34)
But.
Android (14:35)
Virginia
Virginia, Virginia
Neal Girandola (14:36)
Is that how they did? No, I,
I watched a YouTube video of people that live there and they did a whole like clip of it. Like a whole cut, cut, cut, cut. And they're so happy. They're so happy there. They were like, bar, deena and everybody is kind of, you know, show the two girls and they're like, bar, deena. And then it goes show guys and they're like, bar, deena and everybody was saying it. So I, I did it with them and now I know how to say it. I have to say bar, deena. You have to say it there. You have to smile.
Android (14:58)
So when you say it today during the story, have to say it. Yes.
Neal Girandola (15:05)
You have to Say it. Brazil. Virginia. Yeah. Jesus God. All right. Here we go. It began on January 20 of 1996 in the quiet industrial city of Virginia in southern Brazil's ⁓ Minas Gerais state. I don't know how you say that.
Android (15:05)
Do know what you didn't see in the video? The guy behind them with a gun to their head. And be happy when you say it. Great place. Love it. Boom.
Neal Girandola (15:34)
in southern let's just go with in southern Brazil. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I will a place that is better known for coffee and cattle than extraterrestrials.
Android (15:36)
Yeah, it's easier that way. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (15:45)
afternoon, three young women, Lillian, Valkyria and Katya ages 14 to 22 were walking home when they spotted something unusual crouched beside a wall in an empty
described it as short and humanoid.
with brown oily skin, a large head, a thin body and huge red eyes that seemed to glow. They said it looked wet, like it had been in the rain and that it emitted a faint buzzing or clicking sound. That's freaking
Yeah, like that. That's it. That's the sound. it. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe more click more click and some buzzing buzzing in there. Yeah. I feel like that's, I think that's it.
Android (16:20)
I'm so oily.
Neal Girandola (16:29)
The louder clicks were better. Yeah, that's okay. We got it. Now we got it. We got it. Okay. So terrified. I would be terrified from that. ⁓ my God. Terrified. They ran home to tell their mother who she wanted to see what they were talking about. She returned with them to the site and only to find that nothing was there but a faint smell of ammonia and a wet footprint on the
Android (16:39)
Flip and slide.
Neal Girandola (16:54)
that evening,
Reports began flooding in residents were claiming to have seen military trucks and soldiers combing the area others reported a crash earlier that morning a cigar shaped object descending trailing
and Witnessed by farmers just outside
Within 24 hours the city was swarming with police and military
Android (17:18)
Right, right.
Neal Girandola (17:18)
And according
to multiple civilian witnesses, soldiers captured one of the creatures alive near the outskirts of town and they loaded it into a truck.
Wow.
I don't know. I don't know. don't know. yeah, imagine seeing that though. They put a sack over this guy, this poor creature.
Android (17:32)
they put a sack over it or anything? grabbed it. Come here!
Neal Girandola (17:42)
Alright, so the next day though, another strange being was reportedly captured near a wooded area called Jardim and Deer. So it's interesting. There's all these creatures running around now, it seems like from this
Then came the death that made the story impossible to shake a
A young military police officer Marco Eli Shariz.
He was allegedly involved in the capture. He died weeks later from a mysterious
hospital records later that were later leaked said his immune system collapsed after exposure to an unknown biological agent. Now this is getting really serious.
Android (18:14)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (18:26)
family maintains he was contaminated by contact with this creature, whatever it was.
Now, local doctors who treated him were ordered to silence. The hospital was visited by military officials and the paperwork, according to nurses, was
Android (18:38)
Thank
Neal Girandola (18:44)
then though, the journalists had all descended on Varcinia and television crews interviewed witnesses. They recorded sightings and they tracked truck convoys reportedly leaving the city under guard. This story
just then exploded across Brazil.
And the Brazilian army issued a formal denial, of course. They claimed that the creature was nothing more than a mentally disabled man who lived nearby and was mistaken for something alien.
Yeah, you're always mistaken.
Android (19:15)
That happens to me all the time. People mistake
me for a mentally challenged man.
Neal Girandola (19:21)
That lives nearby.
Android (19:22)
that lives nearby and hangs out in the
crouched on the ground, looking at things.
Neal Girandola (19:26)
Yeah. I get it. I get it.
I make a lot of calls to the
and tell them to go to your house. Yeah. Yeah. Mentally guy. And they're like, do you live nearby? I'm like, Nope. I'm in New Jersey. I don't know where he is. Here's his address.
Android (19:30)
about me.
that mentally challenged guys.
Neal Girandola (19:40)
all right. So now
the fire department accused of assisting the military.
said they were responding to an animal capture call. Okay. So now that everybody's saying different, all these things kind of, yeah. And of course, right. But of course not everyone was convinced.
Android (19:49)
Yeah. Yep.
Yeah, story's changed, you know. Story's changed. It happens.
Neal Girandola (20:01)
Rodriguez and Vitorio Pacaccini,
two respected Brazilian
began interviewing these witnesses and they documented over 40 separate
from civilians, police and hospital workers and all described strange creatures, sealed trucks, government.
Pressure to keep quiet.
Android (20:22)
I've got a question. How are they considered respective? Do they just give that claim to themselves? mean, who gives them that claim? Like, I mean, you're a sexy ufologist. Would you consider yourself a respected sexy ufologist?
Neal Girandola (20:34)
Mm.
I think if I'm claiming myself as a ufologist, I'm going to claim that I'm a respectable ufologist. I don't, what do you, what do want me to say? I'm a degenerate ufologist,
Android (20:40)
Okay, I'm just wondering because...
Neal Girandola (20:45)
I got to ask you these questions.
Android (20:46)
But look, I'm really not qualified to even ask you these questions. Some people will call me respected, but I...
Neal Girandola (20:49)
Yeah, I don't know. I made this. I made this
tag that says ufologist. Okay, I'm a
Android (20:56)
just asking because every for all the research that that I do for these things and all the things that you do, they're always listed as a respected ufologist. And I'm like, ⁓ do they have like a is there a committee that votes that they're most respected?
Neal Girandola (21:09)
Well, you know what? I want to
see the list of the ufologists that aren't respected. Yeah. Where's that group? Yeah. Yeah.
Android (21:14)
that are not respected Stephen career. No, he's he's respected.
Right? Would you consider he's a respected you apologize? Yeah, yeah. Yes, and infamous right, which is more than famous. He's infamous.
Neal Girandola (21:21)
Yeah. Sort of. Yes. You would say he's, you would say he's respected. Yeah. One of the most famous I would say. Yeah. Right. I, right.
I don't know though. I don't know if like, if the non-respected ufologists would actually, you know, come forward, we'll go, go to these alien encounters and interview people.
Android (21:44)
Come forward.
But if this
was your first time, like you just got your ufology degree, you're so excited. Right. That's what's, that's not going to happen. You'd like, I'm a ufologist. Here's my degree. You're to show them your ID that says.
Neal Girandola (21:52)
you're not respected. can't talk to you.
Well, it also falls.
It falls into that hole. It's something I've never seen before kind of thing.
Android (22:04)
Right.
Right. But you know what? I bet your ID card has a blank on it that you can write in. Respect it. It just says ufologist and there's a blank before it.
Neal Girandola (22:10)
respected. Check, check the box
respected or not respected. Yeah. No, that's fine. All right. So here we are. So one nurse who talked to the respected ufologist identified only as Marta claimed she saw a small hairless body with an oversized head stored at the hospital before it was removed by military officials.
Android (22:16)
Okay, sorry, sorry, go ahead, please.
What?
Neal Girandola (22:33)
She said the smell was overwhelming.
like sulfur and ammonia.
Android (22:36)
⁓
I love that smell, sort of rotten eggs.
Neal Girandola (22:40)
It
sounds like it actually sounds like it was ⁓ a, you know, a test. No, a test that went bad on some dude, like some science project. But anyway, we'll get to that. Yeah, I know. But over the next few weeks, news outlets around the world dubbed it the Roswell of Brazil. I mean, we could throw Roswell in front of anything,
Android (22:49)
that's even worse.
Neal Girandola (22:58)
it had everything a possible crash at multiple beans, military recovery, a dead soldier and official denial.
Android (23:01)
Right? Right?
Neal Girandola (23:07)
Now the official government investigation was closed by mid 1996 and they labeled the event a series of misunderstanding. So there's a lot of misunderstandings happening all across Brazil. Yeah. But decades later, the witnesses, they still haven't recanted and in 2022, James Fox's documentary moment of contact, reignited the case featuring I have no, no.
Android (23:19)
always a misunderstanding.
And
Have you watched that? Have you seen it? it's
good. I actually watched it. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah. Much better than the one that was on Netflix about Linda, ⁓ whatever her name was. Yeah, Napolitano. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (23:39)
Is it?
Yeah, in Amalatano, Amalatano. Yeah.
as you know, this moment of contact documentary featured new interviews with military insiders. And this was done in 2022. So just recently who claimed they saw creatures transported to a secret base near Campinas
Android (23:54)
Yep. Yep. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (24:03)
or study. Campinas.
Android (24:02)
Yeah. Where?
Neal Girandola (24:06)
Campinas. Not Campinas. Campinas. Campinas.
Android (24:05)
Penis? I love summers like Camp Penis. my
God. The summers I spent at Camp Penis with Scoutmaster Bob and Father Kenny. my gosh, those were the best summers of my life.
Neal Girandola (24:16)
Mm-hmm.
I always got the bottom bunk.
was so much fun.
Android (24:19)
Always
on the bottom bunk with three other guys on top. It's crazy bunks they had there.
Neal Girandola (24:22)
Campinas Campinas was
my favorite memory
it Uh-huh one year they brought an alien there
Android (24:25)
my God, it's bringing it back. ⁓ I can't beat us.
And I gotta tell you, Roscoe was his name and he was frisky.
fingers on his hand.
Neal Girandola (24:33)
He was our camp
camp penises camp
All right. Well, to this day, no photos or physical evidence have ever surfaced, but the timeline, the witnesses and military activity do remain confirmed by local records. All right. So for many in Brazil, the Virginia incident was, isn't just folklore. It's a national mystery.
And for the people who were there, something very real did happen that week, whether it came from.
space or just fell out of secrecy. All right, Andrew. So there it is. Three eyewitnesses, a crash,
alleged captures, a soldier's death and a government that swears it was all a misunderstanding. ⁓ Andrew, this one feels like,
call it what it is, Brazil's Roswell. But is it just the perfect storm of coincidence, fear and small town rumor?
did you find when you dug into the Vargena case? Let's weigh in and decide whether we think.
This is a Mostly True Alien Story.
Android (25:31)
here's something that I found digging up during my dig. I was really fascinated with this story. It really intrigued me.
And the more I dug, the more evidence that I
of this being a real, could be real, first time UFO encounter. So, all right. So, NORAD, a believer, already saying yes, it is real. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. It's real. It's done.
Neal Girandola (25:51)
Interesting. Okay, I can't wait. I can't wait to see what you found. That would make you early on.
Interesting. All right. Well, we can end the No,
but you know what? I'm not, I'm not going to buy into what you're saying right now until I hear it all. let's go.
Android (26:11)
Okay,
okay, so let's look at this. This is interesting. You've heard of NORAD, right? North American Aerodefense Command, right? During that time in January, NORAD contacted the Brazilian Air Defense to warn them that an object had entered their atmosphere around 200 miles east of São Paulo,
Neal Girandola (26:16)
Course, yeah.
Wait, and that was on the round the same date?
Android (26:36)
Yes. So this was January the 13th.
Neal Girandola (26:38)
Okay.
Android (26:39)
the girls said they saw the creature on the 20th of January. Right. Nora, right. Right. This is a week prior to that. they described it as
Neal Girandola (26:43)
Yes. Yeah. A week later after what you're reporting. Yeah.
Android (26:51)
The defense command said about 10 minutes after the warning that an object crashed near the town
our Hina,
Virginia.
Neal Girandola (27:00)
Huh.
Android (27:01)
Brazilian army and air force. They scrambled to get there to the crash site before civilians could get there. That was their whole purpose to get there before anybody else. people saw the
Neal Girandola (27:10)
Mm.
Android (27:12)
The people saw this ship. Some people saw this ship and when they got there, whoever was driving it was
over the next few days, that'll give us a week.
Neal Girandola (27:20)
But did anybody get a
photos of that ship? I mean, we're talking 1990.
Android (27:26)
No,
Neal Girandola (27:27)
Interesting.
Android (27:26)
So
this is a little backstory. And what's scary is that as I started digging, started reading, like you mentioned, one person that died, and there's actually more than that, that died from exposure to whatever this thing was, whatever the creature or.
Neal Girandola (27:44)
Okay, but we didn't,
we're not there yet, right? We didn't, we didn't get to these guys. That's interesting. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Android (27:45)
We're not there yet, but I'm just letting you know that some folks just didn't survive. Okay. So
you mentioned that it was located in the Southern state of Minas Gerais. Gerais. Gerais. Population of that place is about 135,000 people.
Neal Girandola (27:55)
Okay, yes, yes.
Okay.
Android (28:00)
economy is agricultural. So farmers, coffee corn, soybeans. So there was a farmer and his wife, ⁓ Eureko and Orlina de Fretas. ⁓
Neal Girandola (28:03)
A lot of farmland. Yep.
Okay.
Android (28:14)
or Lena woke up that night, ⁓ to hear the cows running around outside their house and the cows, said, they sounded
Neal Girandola (28:21)
Okay.
Android (28:24)
She looked up in the sky out the window and she saw a cigar shaped craft hovering above the pasture. So she wakes up Eureka. This is the 13th or 14th. Thing hadn't crashed
Neal Girandola (28:32)
Wait, what's the date on that? The 13th. So the thing hadn't crashed yet.
Android (28:40)
It's over her house.
Neal Girandola (28:39)
over her house. The cows
are going nuts.
Android (28:42)
Cows are going nuts.
Eureka said it looked like a
like a summer Eureka Eureka. It's a cigar. No.
Neal Girandola (28:45)
I love that name. Your Rico. love your Rico. Here we go.
Android (28:51)
He said it looked like a submarine or some sort of size of a small bus,
He said it had white smoke coming out of it and it looked like it was out of control.
It hovered around.
Neal Girandola (29:02)
Hmm.
Android (29:03)
for about an hour over their
They didn't call anybody.
Neal Girandola (29:07)
No pictures.
Android (29:08)
No photos.
But these are farmers. Maybe they don't even own a camera. It's 1996.
Neal Girandola (29:11)
What's 1996
when
cell phones were kind of out? Isn't that big time then? 96? Yeah, I think 96. Or is that still pager era?
Android (29:16)
96, yeah, had a, no,
no, no, that's 96. I had a sidekick.
Neal Girandola (29:23)
You probably got met a lot of ladies with
I got a sidekick.
Android (29:25)
yeah, I could store a lot of numbers in it.
Neal Girandola (29:28)
I'm gonna text you.
Android (29:29)
I'm going to text you up girl. Okay. So it flew there for about an hour and then it went over the ridge and went out of
They lost sight of it. Okay. So they see a craft, smoke coming out of it and then it just disappears on the, on the other side of the ridge. There was a guy driving in his truck by the name of Carlos de Souza.
Neal Girandola (29:36)
Hmm, okay. Yeah.
Mmm. Yeah. Size of a bus.
Alright, so you kind of link in this together. So the thing goes off over the thing and now over the over the hill. There's a guy driving a truck and he picks it up from there.
Android (29:56)
Yep. There's a guy driving in his truck, Carlos,
Carlos de Sousa. He was driving his truck and he heard a weird rumbling sound
he thinks it's his truck that is rumbling. And ⁓ so he pulls off, he turns. This is at night. It's at night. Yeah, it's about three o'clock, two o'clock in the morning. He said he was driving to the airport. Yeah. He said he was driving to the airport. I guess it's a long way for him to get to Sao
Neal Girandola (30:09)
Sure. Yeah. Wait, this is at night? Yeah. Okay, so it's dark out.
⁓ it's real early. Okay.
Android (30:24)
Yeah, because it's about 200 miles. So yeah, so he's going to the airport. ⁓
Neal Girandola (30:24)
Maybe. Yeah, he's he's got a
car. He's got about three hour drive, two and a half hour drive. Yeah.
Android (30:30)
Right, right.
So, ⁓ he heard the weird rumbling. He thought it was his truck and stopped. Then he saw the cigar shaped craft about 300 feet in the air and it was making strange now noises. He said it had windows
Neal Girandola (30:42)
Hmm.
Android (30:46)
and it had a long crack running through the middle of it. He got back in his truck because the thing hovered and then it took off. He got back in his truck and he started following it.
Neal Girandola (30:46)
What?
Huh.
Android (30:58)
He said it flew up the mountain and disappeared. He wants to see what it is. He's driving like right. He's driving like a freaking maniac. He sees a dirt road going up the mountain. He gets on that dirt
Neal Girandola (31:00)
So he's now going, he wants to see this thing more. He's not afraid, he's going after that thing. Crazy.
Android (31:10)
And when he gets to this clearing, there is just crash debris everywhere.
Neal Girandola (31:15)
Huh.
Android (31:16)
He thought he said he thought it was a small plane. ⁓ and he was a pilot apparently, and he thought he could help. Okay. And I'm like,
Neal Girandola (31:21)
Yeah. ⁓ okay.
Android (31:25)
How are you going to help them pilot? crashed. Shouldn't you have already been in the ship to help them fly? You can't help them now. No, I know. He understood it was an emergency. Right, right.
Neal Girandola (31:27)
Mm-hmm. Right. Can't help him. Well, maybe, you know, he understands the whole crash situation. He's gonna maybe save
some people. That's a good dude. Good dude.
Android (31:38)
So he ran towards the crash and he said, only one on the scene. And he said, he realized that it was not a plane. Whatever it was, was something
Neal Girandola (31:40)
Okay. But he's the only one on the scene. Yeah.
Android (31:50)
had never seen before.
Neal Girandola (31:50)
Never seen before.
Android (31:51)
Then he said he smelled ammonia and sulfur. He said it smelled so bad, he took off his shirt and covered his mouth to breathe.
Neal Girandola (32:00)
It's a very interesting ⁓ through line through it will through line on this. Everybody's saying this. Okay, about the smell. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I mean, that's that's what's interesting about this is because,
Android (32:04)
No? Right. Right. Same thing. Right. Right. Right. He said it burned his eyes.
Neal Girandola (32:14)
you know, usually you say, I saw you have I saw an alien. I saw this. But when you link it to senses, when everybody's saying that they smelled something, that's an odd thing to enter into this whole story. So
Android (32:23)
Right.
Right,
and if you start thinking that a lot of this stuff didn't come out until basically 20 years after the event. And these are memories. So we know that memories are triggered by smells, by things you... Right, you smell it. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (32:31)
Yeah. Yeah. Ammonia. You smell. You remember that smell.
Android (32:38)
So I won't have a cat inside anymore. That cat piss smell is awful. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (32:40)
Cause of the cat pee? Cat pee.
I cat sat for you. Yeah.
Android (32:43)
You can't say you did. That's right.
I forgot about that.
Neal Girandola (32:46)
the worst week of my life.
right.
Android (32:49)
the cat didn't forget either.
Neal Girandola (32:51)
I'll tell you what.
Android (32:51)
actually he said it on his deathbed
Neal Girandola (32:52)
I brought so many different people back to your
That cat saw some horrible stuff while you were away.
No. Okay.
Android (33:04)
He was never the same after that. He was
never the same. Okay. So he said that he saw this large piece of what looked like metal, but when he picked it up, it was light. He said it was more like aluminum foil.
Neal Girandola (33:16)
⁓ cool.
Android (33:17)
It wasn't hot to touch from the crash. So he, he crumples it
Neal Girandola (33:19)
Right.
Android (33:21)
And he drops it, but the thing doesn't hit the ground at first. It opens itself back up to the shape and kind of floats back to the ground.
Neal Girandola (33:23)
Why don't you take it?
Holy cow.
so did he see anybody in the wreck?
Android (33:34)
didn't see anybody that's what he was hoping to find somebody he said minutes later
military trucks pulled up to where this crash site was soldiers got out with guns that quickly they pointed the guns at him and they said get out of
Neal Girandola (33:42)
That quickly.
That's interesting.
Android (33:50)
or we'll shoot you
Neal Girandola (33:50)
How did they not
know how did they know that he wasn't the guy in the No, I mean, how would they assume? Yeah, but they're gonna pull up right away and they immediately turn to this guy and tell him to get lost. But what if he was the alien?
Android (33:56)
I don't know. guess because he had like the thing.
Right. Maybe. But they told him to get out of there, right? So he did. Okay. So he left. So he got in his car and he drove. he drove to, he, drove to the closest town. He was freaking out. So he went and got himself a cup of
Neal Girandola (34:10)
A lot of interesting steps here.
Sure, he was scared, probably scared.
Android (34:21)
Okay. Or drink. And a hooker. Right.
Neal Girandola (34:21)
I would. Yeah. Yeah. fact, in fact, in fact, this
is making me want to take a drink out of my alien mug.
Android (34:30)
he gets in the coffee shop, right? And two guys in dark suits appear in the coffee shop.
Neal Girandola (34:36)
Wait a minute, that quickly?
Android (34:38)
that fast. Here come the men in black. I don't know. But he said two men. Two men is I'm just telling you what he says. Okay, he said that two men in dark suits approached him in the coffee shop and said, we know your name.
Neal Girandola (34:40)
And why do they always wear the dark suits? Why don't they walk in and like sweatshirt and a hoodie and be like a regular dude?
Android (34:55)
We know your wife's name. We know how many children we have you have. We know where you live. You are to tell no one about what you saw tonight,
or what you experienced.
Neal Girandola (35:04)
Really?
That would make me want to tell everyone.
Android (35:07)
and forget you ever saw it. And if you don't...
Neal Girandola (35:09)
This would make me want to tell everybody.
They did, they threatened his life.
Android (35:16)
They threatened his life. So he was freaking terrified, dude, and he stayed silent for over 20 years until he spoke in this movie. Moment of contact. James Fox got him to, not Jamie Foxx. I was hoping it was Jamie Foxx. That would have been kind of cool. But it's James Foxx, okay?
Neal Girandola (35:26)
Yeah.
Right, James Fox. Not Jamie Foxx. Yeah.
So, he opens up about it now because he feels like he's safe?
Android (35:41)
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess he's like, I've lived this much longer. I'm going to tell people about what happened. I don't know. I don't know. He looks like he's probably in his early 60s now. Late 50s, early 60s. That's what I would guess. Okay, so let's go back to the scene of the crash. All right, because that's, we're done with Carlos. ⁓ Back at the... He's not speak. He's terrified. He's done.
Neal Girandola (35:46)
How old was he got? How old is he? How old he look? ⁓
Okay.
Okay. Yep.
Yeah.
Okay, Carlos Carlos is not going to speak. He's not gonna say a word for 20 years. Right?
Okay.
Android (36:07)
So back at the crash scene, the soldiers were looking for survivors, but there were no survivors at the crash site. Let's fast forward to...
Neal Girandola (36:13)
Mm-hmm. How did this
information, how'd that information get out about that?
Android (36:18)
This was
revealed later from some military sources. So some of this stuff is coming from a moment of contact because those are all eyewitness reports, right?
Neal Girandola (36:20)
Okay, okay.
Mm hmm. Understood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Android (36:28)
So about 8 AM that morning, a college student reported seeing a creature with oily dark brown skin crouched in an alleyway near the park, near a park. This is separate than the three girls.
Neal Girandola (36:40)
This is
Android (36:44)
It had small hands with three fingers about four or five feet tall, no hair,
no clothes, butt ass naked.
Neal Girandola (36:50)
Those aliens.
Android (36:52)
They're just trying to have fun. I think it was a stripper party gone wrong on the ship and that's what made them crash.
Neal Girandola (36:59)
It was an alien bash party.
Android (37:00)
OK, now a few blocks away from that incident. OK.
Neal Girandola (37:04)
So wait, I want to, have a question. the
ship in your assessment from the explanation from the farmers and then from the truck driver who saw it
was it big enough for more than one alien or do you think it was just big enough for one alien? Because there was multiple reports. There were reports three. Okay. Yeah. I mean like, okay, I got it. But it's not like a giant bus, not a regular size bus. You're talking maybe that.
Android (37:20)
I think there was like three inside. was like three inside.
Okay.
No, it's a mini school
bus. It's a short bus. It's a short bus.
Neal Girandola (37:32)
Mini bus yeah,
Android (37:34)
a few blocks away, this is when we bring in our three young ladies.
Neal Girandola (37:37)
Yeah, so that's the
other thing. was like, why was it? Why is the whole story based around the three ladies more than anybody else?
Android (37:45)
they actually, well, it's not because I'm going to give you more details about other people, but they were the ones that the reason why is because they came out and they were on TV and everything about this. That's why they were interviewed on TV, which I'll get to that
Neal Girandola (37:50)
Okay, but usually when you
Okay. Okay.
Android (38:00)
so a few blocks away, the three girls, Katya, Liniana, and whatever the other girl's name is,
they were going to that same park.
where that college kid said that they saw it. Okay. They said they saw a creature four to five feet tall. Yes. Yeah. This is during the day. It's after 8 a.m. now. Yeah. Yeah. The next day they saw it. they said it had a large head with three bumps, red eyes, brown oily skin. It was hairless, butt ass naked. No
Neal Girandola (38:10)
Yeah.
But this is during the day. Right? It's like the next day. Yeah, okay.
Yeah.
Mm.
Did it have genitalia? Did they say that?
Android (38:34)
They said it was huge. They thought it had three legs is what they said. No.
Neal Girandola (38:38)
No, but seriously, was three girls.
Three girls see it, and they're gonna immediately go, his penis was out.
Android (38:43)
Well, he was crouched. It was crouched like in a little position. You know what? Yeah, yeah, we'll actually be able, I have,
Neal Girandola (38:47)
Hiding his penis, his alien penis.
Android (38:51)
I have photos I'm gonna send
painted of the alien penis. It's freaking, it's huge, dude. It's so freaking, I was like envious of this four foot tall thing with a freaking four foot long penis. I was like, wow.
Neal Girandola (38:52)
Of the alien penis? I don't want any photos of alien penises.
my gosh. penis
was as big as he was tall.
Android (39:08)
Yeah, and that's how he got around. He hopped on it through the town. That's why it was so scary. Freaking, it's on a short bus.
Neal Girandola (39:11)
Yeah. ⁓ aliens.
Alright,
but no, but they didn't remark about any janetalia or nothing like that. Okay, so
Android (39:19)
No, they didn't remark about anything like that.
When they got close to it, they said it made no sound. just stared at
said they could feel its thoughts. They sensed it was frightened and in pain and needed help. So what do you think they did?
Neal Girandola (39:28)
Mm.
⁓ man, that sucked. Yeah.
They screamed and ran.
Android (39:38)
Yes.
Neal Girandola (39:39)
either shot it or screamed and ran. That's what everybody does.
Android (39:39)
me.
right because that's the only thing
right no one went over to it right ⁓
Neal Girandola (39:45)
They didn't try to help him.
Android (39:47)
to kathia's house
Neal Girandola (39:47)
would have you done? I would have helped
Android (39:49)
i would have probably gone over there and been like dude are you all right god you smell you smell like ammonia and sulfur
Neal Girandola (39:52)
You smell like ammonia. and
Android (39:56)
have you been eating eggs can i see your penis how can you just be so smooth down there i don't understand
Neal Girandola (39:58)
And where's your penis?
No, but in all seriousness,
I
I think it depends on who I'm with. Like if I'm with my wife and she'll be screaming and running for the friggin hills. So I'd have to go and protect her. But if it was just me,
Android (40:11)
Right.
Neal Girandola (40:14)
I'm pretty sure I'd go over and help.
Android (40:15)
Yeah,
yeah, and they sense that it was scared. Yeah, that it's hurt. That's different, right?
Neal Girandola (40:18)
Yeah, if you get in that sense.
But it
does sound like he's pretty scary looking.
Android (40:25)
No, does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. mean, he's brown oily skin with red eyes and bumps all over him.
Neal Girandola (40:26)
Sounds pretty scary. So you'd
have to be pretty brave or a sexy ufologist to want to go over to him and you know, see what you could
Android (40:33)
right seducive
Neal Girandola (40:36)
I don't want to
Android (40:36)
being like hey
Neal Girandola (40:37)
I'm just saying
Android (40:37)
are you
Neal Girandola (40:38)
but I'm thinking
Android (40:37)
I love your skin can I touch it
Neal Girandola (40:40)
thinking, you know what? I'm a little disappointed
I mean, why, why not help? Why not see if you could help the guy? First of all, you're naked. That's one sign of a problem. There's there's the guys in trouble.
Android (40:46)
Right.
Right. Right.
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (40:53)
You know, there's something something's up. So even if you thought it was grotesque looking or there was issue that scared you, didn't recognize what you were looking
Android (40:55)
Yep.
Neal Girandola (41:01)
unless you thought it was a rabbit animal, but it doesn't sound like anybody saying, well, I thought it was a rabbit animal or a dog, you know, some weird dog or yeah, something like that. looked like it was human with abnormalities.
Android (41:08)
Right. Or a crazy chimp or something. Right. That's different. Right. It looked kind of human. Right.
So they ran
tore ass out of their.
Neal Girandola (41:16)
But wait, you didn't answer my
Android (41:18)
What was that?
Neal Girandola (41:19)
you help him?
Android (41:19)
yeah, I'd help
I'd help him. Yeah, I would have helped him. I would have been like, ⁓ you stink.
Neal Girandola (41:20)
You would have helped them.
you would take them home or would you take him to
Android (41:27)
I probably would have
Neal Girandola (41:28)
when you realize it's an alien.
Android (41:29)
kissed his
Neal Girandola (41:30)
When you realized it's an alien, would have you taken it home or would it be taken?
Android (41:35)
Nah, I probably would have shit
my pants.
Neal Girandola (41:36)
You and your shitting pants. You shit your pants so easily. You shit your pants very easily over things. You really do. I mean, it's not even that scary and you shit your pants.
Android (41:38)
No, no, I wouldn't. I just did. I just did. I wear a diaper
now just in case it could happen. It can happen at any moment.
Neal Girandola (41:46)
In case I scare you. He just shit himself. ⁓
So no, but would you take it to a hospital or a police or what would you do?
Android (41:58)
No, if I was to find something like that, probably would take it home.
I wouldn't take it to a hospital. What would they do with it? They're not going to know any more than I do.
Neal Girandola (42:07)
But if the reports are true, you would have died like three days later.
Android (42:10)
then I would have died helping a helpless
Neal Girandola (42:13)
and Ali.
Android (42:14)
you be better to die that way knowing that you tried to help this thing than to just call authorities and have them take it and probe it and test it and kill it?
Neal Girandola (42:13)
He would have killed your
Yeah, I, I'm maybe.
Android (42:24)
And maybe he can control his ammonia smell. Maybe his ammonia smell is a defense mechanism.
Neal Girandola (42:29)
Yeah, maybe he just needed a shower.
Like a little OOD.
Android (42:31)
I mean, you know, like think about like a skunk, right? A skunk sprays you as a defense mechanism.
Maybe that's their defense mechanism. And if they realized that they weren't in
he could retract that smell. And he'd smell like Old Spice.
Neal Girandola (42:42)
Yeah. ⁓
and I'm sure the reports of the the military guys that died
sure well yeah they definitely were probably pretty hostile and you know approaching this guy yeah maybe it might be onto something okay all right so you would you would go and save him at the risk of your life
Android (42:48)
Well, they scared him.
Yeah, I mean, okay, okay. I would help him. Yeah, I would help him at the risk
of but why would I think I was going to die if I help him? I wouldn't think that right.
Neal Girandola (43:03)
Well, you wouldn't think that. You wouldn't know that, but that's the thing. It's
You know, you wanna help out, but... You know... Will I
Alright, so go ahead. I would help. I would do the same thing.
Android (43:10)
So, so they,
okay, good. That's good to hear. Would you help me if I was on the side of the road? Naked. You probably would take me home.
Neal Girandola (43:14)
Yeah. No. Like that. Like that. You naked, hairy, real hairy. You're so hairy. I don't
think I could, you know, skinless, I can deal with that. All that hair, there's nothing I could do.
You're gonna die. You're dying.
Android (43:27)
home and
you probably would, would roofie me or chloroform me, throw me in the back of your van that you have that you've sold puppies out of. Take me back to your basement and keep me locked in the basement and tell your
Neal Girandola (43:36)
and candy.
Android (43:40)
it's a stray dog that you found. Don't go down there. I found this gorilla that escaped from the zoo.
Neal Girandola (43:42)
Yeah, don't go down there.
We got- I got
him chained to a pole down there just to make sure he's not rabid. We're gonna wait a few days and see.
Android (43:52)
And I'm gonna give him my banana. mean, I'm gonna feed him some bananas. Whatever you do, don't touch him. It makes him angry if you touch him.
Neal Girandola (43:55)
Don't touch him. He's so hairy. We are going to
shave him eventually. We're going to shave him his entire body. All right. All right. Good.
Android (44:05)
Okay.
So, so they, they go home, they tell their mom what
from the, yes, right. The Chupa Chupa episode, talked about these three girls as well. And they, they described this thing as a
Neal Girandola (44:09)
talking about the three girls that saw him now.
Yeah.
Android (44:17)
They never said the word alien. They described it as a demon. So their mom freaked out and yeah, they, they get, they get back, they all run back to the park and there's nothing there.
Neal Girandola (44:19)
No.
So this guy must've been scary looking.
Android (44:29)
No human, but a non-human footprint found in the mud with three long toes and ammonia smell around the area.
Neal Girandola (44:29)
Right. Right.
Mm-hmm. Right.
Yeah.
Wow. That guy must've put off something.
Android (44:39)
And the mother, the mother of Katya
said that it stayed in her nose for several days after she could keep smelling the ammonia. You know, the girls never described the ammonia smell. They never said it.
Neal Girandola (44:46)
Did any of the kids or any of girls or the mother get sick? They never sit. Really?
I thought they did. I thought my end of the report.
Android (44:56)
In your thing,
yes. But what I found, they never talked about the ammonia
they even talked about getting close to
And that would have been something that they would have said, my God, this thing stunk. maybe the creature only emits that smell out of fear.
Neal Girandola (45:01)
Okay.
Yeah.
Right,
right. The girls did not say, I'm looking at my report, the girls did not say that the mother is the only one.
Android (45:12)
Yeah.
Yeah. So that's what I mean. Maybe it is a defense mechanism.
Neal Girandola (45:19)
could have been could have
or if it's dying maybe it admits that to know some sort of glandular reaction yeah
Android (45:21)
So.
Right. Oh, God. Oh, I'm dying.
Let me release that ammonia and sulfur. Something like
Neal Girandola (45:34)
Yeah.
Android (45:34)
You think that's what he was thinking?
Neal Girandola (45:34)
Yeah.
Android (45:36)
Yeah. Oh, God. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Neal Girandola (45:35)
You know, I had to get that out. God, that feels good. Yeah.
Android (45:43)
OK, so a few hours later, I'm going to guess it's probably 10 AM,
So this is when military police, Eric Lopez and Marco Cherise were patrolling. And that's when they saw this small creature run across the freaking street in front of their car.
Neal Girandola (46:01)
This is all in the same day ish kind of Yeah. In the same area. We're talking same area.
Android (46:03)
Same day, there several hours later, few hours later, same area
near the park, right? Near the park. they said it was dark skinned, no hair, butt ass naked. Yep. So Marco got out of the car, chased after it and tackled it. He grabs it. They put it back in their police car and they take it to the hospital.
Neal Girandola (46:12)
Mm-hmm. So everybody's seeing this thing.
I wonder if they handcuffed it.
Android (46:28)
don't know. They didn't say they cuffed it. He just said they grabbed it and threw it in the back of the car or maybe they threw it in the car. They didn't say if it was in the back seat or if they threw it in the trunk. They didn't say they took it to the hospital and the creature died at the
Neal Girandola (46:38)
Poor guy.
Android (46:40)
Now, a few hours after that, Marco said he felt ill. He said his skin felt greasy and he started smelling ammonia.
Neal Girandola (46:44)
Hmm.
Android (46:49)
And over two weeks he got sicker and sicker.
Neal Girandola (46:53)
⁓ boy.
Android (46:53)
He went to
the hospital and he was so sick they put him in ICU. The doctors were puzzle
Neal Girandola (46:57)
my
Android (47:01)
later he died of unknown causes. The dude was only 23 years old.
Neal Girandola (47:06)
They tested his blood and everything that they didn't find like ⁓
Android (47:09)
Now this is where it gets weird. No autopsy,
closed casket,
they buried him immediately. They said they did this to protect public health. But you mentioned a blood test.
Neal Girandola (47:21)
Hmm.
Android (47:23)
his blood test.
Neal Girandola (47:23)
To protect public health,
they have to do an autopsy to make sure this isn't going to spread. Well, by doing something like that is saying to me they knew what this was.
Android (47:28)
They didn't autopsy
him. 8 % of his blood was unknown toxic substances.
Neal Girandola (47:37)
Well,
Android (47:39)
Later on that day, the fire department got a call about a wild animal. You mentioned that earlier, right? It had gone down an embankment near a large wooded area.
Neal Girandola (47:46)
Mm-hmm.
So there's another guy. So this is after they've already picked one up. Now they're getting another call for something else. Yeah. Yeah.
Android (47:54)
Another call about another creature, right?
⁓ it took them two hours to catch this
Everyone who saw it said it stunk. It smelled. The firemen use one of those snare things, you know, those poles that they use to grab a dog, you know, or, whatever. That's what they grabbed it.
Neal Girandola (48:07)
Yeah, to put around a neck. ⁓ huh. Yeah.
Android (48:12)
As soon as they snared it and got it back up the hill, military trucks from the local base showed
They threw a bag.
a black bag, like a body bag over this thing, took it and they closed the area immediately. So soldiers are there with their guns. They took it. They threw it in the back of the military truck. They drove off and they went to the regional
Neal Girandola (48:23)
Mm.
Yeah.
Now how do...
Android (48:37)
They closed off a section of the hospital.
The military shows up with the black bags. They took it down.
Neal Girandola (48:43)
I wonder
why they go to the hospital.
Android (48:45)
I'm going to get there.
They wanted to x-ray what was in the bag. Nobody wanted to open up the bag. Whatever was in the bag was apparently very scary, but they wanted to x-ray
So in the exam room, was full of doctors, police, military personnel. No one saw the x-rays because the military confiscated the x-ray film
They told everybody there to stay quiet.
Neal Girandola (49:05)
Hmm.
Android (49:08)
This is national security, everybody be quiet. But the ammonia smell that was in that section of the hospital stayed there for almost two weeks.
Neal Girandola (49:17)
Wow.
Android (49:18)
And the fireman that snared it, he died. Same thing, unknown toxic poisoning.
Neal Girandola (49:19)
Yeah. Huh. ⁓
They bury him quick too?
Android (49:27)
They made the doctors and the nurses that were there sign NDAs and threatened them with prison if they told anybody what they had seen. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (49:36)
The military is doing this. Hmm.
Android (49:40)
Now let's fast forward 25 years later. Okay. We're now 2021. A soldier came forward with his
and it's in this moment of contact documentary.
Neal Girandola (49:52)
Mm-hmm.
Android (49:53)
They couldn't give his name because he's still afraid. So they called him military X.
To protect him. He said he was in the
Neal Girandola (49:58)
Yeah. Well, okay.
Android (50:01)
And he said there was the alien in there in this bag, ⁓ four or five feet tall, brown, dark red skin. It looked oily. Right. No, it was dead. It was dead.
Neal Girandola (50:08)
It was still alive in the bag.
But it was still alive in the bag?
But they had to capture it in a park or wherever.
Android (50:19)
This was the fireman
The fireman one that they snared died before they even got it to the hospital.
Neal Girandola (50:24)
All right, but it was alive when they captured
Android (50:26)
well, yeah, kind of. It was almost on its way
Neal Girandola (50:30)
but this subject X guy military X he did
Android (50:33)
Military X. Yep. Said that
it had, it was four to five feet tall and had dark, ⁓ red or brown skin. was oily. It had, he saw the foot sticking out of the bag and the head, the toes had three, had three toes.
Neal Girandola (50:48)
Mmm,
Android (50:49)
He arrived.
Neal Girandola (50:49)
Everything everybody else was saying.
Android (50:51)
Right. He arrives at the base. they asked him what they saw.
He said, it looked like a burnt man.
That's how he described it to his commander, his commanding officer. And the commanding officer said, no, it's not a Burt man. It's something supernatural. And if you tell anyone, we'll kill
Neal Girandola (51:00)
⁓ Hm. Okay.
Android (51:08)
They love saying that. If you tell anyone, we'll kill you.
Neal Girandola (51:09)
Yeah, I'm kill you.
who's going to believe me if you really think about it? Okay. I'm I, know what you just told me not to tell anybody cause you're going to kill me. That makes me go. I'm going to start telling people cause I don't believe one, you're going to kill me and two, who's going to believe me. But I, I want to tell people.
Android (51:21)
Yeah.
Right. guess they'll believe me when I'm dead.
So he said, what was crazy was that the next day he's at the military base, military X this officer is, and he said more soldiers arrived and things were getting, they felt really, really tense.
Neal Girandola (51:40)
Ramping up.
Android (51:41)
was put on a, he was put on a, on a small bus. No, he was put on a truck and he, and he traveled to the space X army base at
Neal Girandola (51:41)
Something was going on.
Android (51:52)
Camp Penis. I'm sorry, Camp Penis, Camp Penis, not Camp Penis. He went to Camp Penis, right?
Neal Girandola (51:52)
This is military x guy. went to Campinas. Campinas. Campinas.
Android (51:59)
But he said he didn't know what happened to the... to the... to the alien. Okay.
Neal Girandola (52:05)
They don't know.
Nobody knows what happened to the two aliens because it was too alien.
Android (52:08)
to the bodies, right? He doesn't know what happened. But there
is a guy that says he thinks he knows what happened. His name is Jose Manuel Fernandez, and he was an air traffic controller at that time at the base. He said two helicopters flew to Vargenhas, Vargenhas, and they said they were going out on some sort of rescue mission.
Neal Girandola (52:19)
Okay.
Yeah? Yeah?
Okay.
Android (52:31)
so they flew back to the base.
He said, then a plane showed up that was unauthorized to land at the base. A weird plane shows up unauthorized to land and he was told to give them authorization to land.
Neal Girandola (52:38)
Hmm. Unauthorized to land, but it landed.
Android (52:45)
Out of the helicopter, they pull two black bags. Body bags is what they are. ⁓ And they load them onto the plane and the plane took off.
Neal Girandola (52:47)
Mm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm.
He doesn't know where it went.
Android (52:57)
He doesn't know where it went, you know what was on the side of the plane?
Neal Girandola (53:00)
What?
Mm, the Air Force took him.
Android (53:01)
USAF. ⁓
United States Air Force. So military witness said the US took over the operation for three months after this whole thing went down. They took over everything.
Neal Girandola (53:13)
Mm-hmm.
Android (53:16)
Fast forward to three months later, right, at Katya's house. Her mom said that four men in suits came to speak with her.
Neal Girandola (53:20)
Yeah.
Android (53:25)
She said they forced their way into the house.
One guy had a clipboard and one guy had a briefcase.
Neal Girandola (53:28)
Yeah.
Android (53:31)
They told her, you can have all the money in this briefcase.
Neal Girandola (53:34)
Hmm. I'll take it.
Android (53:36)
tens of thousands of dollars.
Neal Girandola (53:36)
All right. Yeah. Where do I sign? You
don't need to explain it anymore. How much I don't care. Just give me I'll take it.
Android (53:41)
But the girls have to say they made up the
and you have to leave the country and never speak of it again. Yeah, yeah, you have to leave the country.
Neal Girandola (53:47)
you got to leave the country. You have to leave the country. Probably
because everyone was interviewing them or coming to see them and all this stuff, but it's probably too late by then.
Android (53:56)
She said, no, I'm not going to have these girls lie for you.
Neal Girandola (53:58)
Said no.
Android (54:02)
So she called the police and while she was calling the police, the four men in black left.
Neal Girandola (54:07)
Interesting.
Android (54:08)
so I felt like it was deal or no deal, right? Do you want what's in the briefcase? Or Monty Hall? Monty Hall was there!
Neal Girandola (54:08)
I would have negotiated a little bit more on that one. Well, I don't know.
Yeah, would have been like, listen,
I don't want to guess what's in the briefcase. How much is it? No, that's not enough. Nope. I'm going to need more. Yeah. I want three briefcases. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And you got a deal.
Android (54:21)
No, then in more. Bring me another briefcase. Bring me two briefcases full of money and I'll leave and I won't say anything.
another family. Now this is apparently an upstanding family. Of course, all their identities are hidden, but they came forward and they said that they saw a craft in the sky.
Neal Girandola (54:33)
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Android (54:43)
They said it seemed like it was looking for something. This is what took place after the first crash. They saw another craft in the sky. It felt like it was looking for something, right? Same sort of cigar shaped, yep, small school bus size.
Neal Girandola (54:48)
⁓ And it was looking for something. Was it the same sort of craft-ish? Huh. Huh.
Android (54:58)
they told that they told this documentary series that soon after that, men in suits visited them as well, and they threatened them.
Neal Girandola (55:08)
Hmm. No briefcase.
Android (55:10)
No briefcase.
Neal Girandola (55:11)
They're gonna just threaten them.
Android (55:12)
Just threaten them. Don't say anything to anybody or we'll kill you.
Neal Girandola (55:14)
You know, it could be a scenario
the second ship that was seen with the with which is being flown, we're assuming by aliens of the same kind. We're actually, let's just say law enforcement, aliens of sorts, or some sort of from there. And they're actually going out. They're chasing these other aliens that we're going to go and do something either nefarious
Android (55:23)
Right.
Neal Girandola (55:41)
and
reveal themselves to you know they maybe they were interdimensional they pop through this is like a fringe event and they come come come you know and they crashed because they're trying to get away from these guys who they lost them but then the ship fails they crash and then you know all this shit goes down with them
Android (55:49)
Right. Right, right.
Right.
Neal Girandola (56:01)
and then the other guy aliens that are looking for them come into town and they're gonna they're trying to find they don't know yet that they're dead or gone so they're gonna come looking
Android (56:06)
Right.
So they stole,
like maybe it was teenage aliens that stole their dad's ship. And the dad called the cops on them and they chased them down.
Neal Girandola (56:15)
They borrowed it.
Could be.
or could be something bigger than that, but it could be ⁓ an interesting scenario because why would other aliens now come looking for them and what were they all doing together? You know, my assumption would be
Android (56:22)
Right.
Neal Girandola (56:32)
either they were flying together to come to earth and they, they got separated, crashed and that happened. And then those guys were looking for them or they were being chased by these other aliens.
Android (56:35)
Right. Right.
Right,
right. But what's so interesting is that, you know, they call this the Brazilian Roswell, right? And we know Roswell, we know the military, whatever happened there is always, there's always a military coverup, right? No matter what happened, it was a military coverup. So here's something interesting that I saw in the film that I was really, this really kind of freaked me out a little bit. Eric Lopez, right? Who was the friend of Marcos, the other soldier, right? He's just kind of like faded away,
Neal Girandola (56:49)
Mm. Yeah.
mhm yeah the officer the soldier that died
Android (57:10)
And, ⁓
They found him. James Fox found him and went to his house asking him for an interview. And this guy went freaking ballistic screaming at them, telling them he knows nothing, telling them to get off his property, telling them that if they don't get off his property, he's going to shoot them. And he produces a gun and points it out the window at these
Neal Girandola (57:26)
Hmm.
Mm.
Android (57:34)
In the documentary.
Neal Girandola (57:33)
This is in the documentary. Hmm.
but maybe the guys just had it. Maybe he's just like, didn't nothing really. I mean, otherwise maybe he would yell that nothing happened. There was nothing there, but, why he's freaking out so much. Maybe he's so scared that, you know, if it doesn't want to talk about it.
Android (57:44)
Right, right.
No, I gotcha. No, I gotcha. Yeah. He doesn't want to talk about it.
Yeah, I mean, that just seems it makes it more real. It makes it more real. Or he's just really sad about what his life has become and doesn't want anybody to know.
Neal Girandola (57:56)
Yeah. Yeah, it's
Possibly. All right, are you ready to weigh in?
Android (58:04)
ready to kind of weigh in, yeah. Not really yet. I'm still kind of on the fence. But there are things to remember, okay? So there's no physical evidence of what actually happened, right? We only have witness testimonies and the testimonies have become less consistent over the years. All right?
Neal Girandola (58:10)
All right, but do you do? All right, OK.
Okay.
⁓ okay. Okay. changed
a little bit. They've changed over the years.
Android (58:26)
We can say that, you know,
we can do what we always say, no reason to lie, nobody made money off of this, right, off of this, but that's not true. Because the girls wanted $200 to speak to the Wall Street
Neal Girandola (58:32)
Right, right, right. Okay.
Android (58:40)
There were no other witnesses that came back in the day, 96, 200 bucks each, to speak to the Wall Street Journal.
Neal Girandola (58:41)
Wait, they wanted 200 bucks back in the day, 96, to speak to the Wall Street Journal, but they wouldn't
take the briefcase full of money.
Android (58:49)
if they speak to the wall, think about it, if they speak to the Wall Street Journal, right, they're telling the truth.
If they take the briefcase, they have to lie. That's a good way to look at it. Because the mother said she would not have them lie. She said, absolutely not.
Neal Girandola (58:59)
Okay, you could say that. But the but
I'll take money from people who want to pay me to hear our story. Okay, that's weird. Okay.
Android (59:06)
Right, right, okay. So
there's no other witnesses that came forward until the girls appeared on Brazilian TV show.
Then the new witnesses that did come forward of what happened that night described the aliens to a T exactly as the girls had described
But what the crazy thing is is that the girls never mentioned the word alien.
Neal Girandola (59:28)
Right, they never said alien. Okay.
Android (59:28)
They only called it a demon. Then they
later retracted it and called it a creature. UFO was never said. Now at this same time, you know, they describe it as a creepy looking thing, right? At this same time, guess what was going crazy in Brazil on the news? The
Neal Girandola (59:35)
But never said alien.
Android (59:47)
And it's four to five feet tall, brown oily skin, you know, eating the hearts of virgins or whatever it does, right? Sucking the blood out of people, right?
Neal Girandola (59:48)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. That would be on the minds of
everybody in the area.
Android (59:58)
And it wasn't until a well-known ufologist, one of the two guys that you mentioned, suggested that it was an alien. And that's when everybody started talking about it was an alien. It was an alien. But the locals said that they saw Mudeño, right? Little Mute. His real name is Luis Antonio de Paula. He lived in the area.
Neal Girandola (1:00:02)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Not a sane alien. Okay. Okay.
Mm. Mm-hmm.
Android (1:00:24)
A major storm happened that night and he was probably covered in mud. And I'm going to send you, I'm going to send you a picture of the dude sitting on the ground because apparently he would just sit on the ground and look at the ground all day long. Okay. No, he was just, he was just a little guy, you know, that was not well mentally. ⁓ they said the first report, ⁓ the girls said they didn't, had never heard of this guy. They'd never seen him before. Right.
Neal Girandola (1:00:26)
Mm-hmm.
so that's the story that popped up from the
Okay. Did he have a large head and...
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Android (1:00:54)
then they retracted that and said yeah we know him we know him we know the guy yeah but that wasn't him what we saw was an alien so which which right
Neal Girandola (1:01:04)
⁓ so first they said they didn't know him, then they said they did
know him, but then they said it wasn't him. Right. ⁓ Yeah.
Android (1:01:09)
Right. So which version is true? Which one is right and which one is wrong? Okay.
Then you talked about the briefcase full of money. So first Katya's mother spoke of the men. She implied that there would be money.
Neal Girandola (1:01:19)
Mm-hmm.
Android (1:01:22)
That they kind of promised her money. But later she said it was a deal or no deal cash briefcase.
Neal Girandola (1:01:29)
Hmm.
Android (1:01:29)
The first couple that I
names? The farmers. Yeah, the farmers.
Neal Girandola (1:01:31)
farmers
Android (1:01:34)
story happened basically a week
And
Neal Girandola (1:01:36)
Eureka!
Android (1:01:37)
Eureka. Yeah. And it's, and it's, and it's fine
you're, when you're dealing with memories, right? This is 25 years later, they could have said, yeah, yeah. Wasn't at the
Neal Girandola (1:01:40)
Wait, their story what? That's when they told their story was 25 years later. Wasn't at the time.
Android (1:01:49)
And they said it was, you know, they think it was around January 13th.
Neal Girandola (1:01:49)
Yeah.
Android (1:01:53)
and the girls said it was January the 20th.
So they couldn't remember when it happened, whether it was the 13th or the 20th, it doesn't matter. It was still the same month of the same
Neal Girandola (1:01:56)
Sure. Right.
Right.
Android (1:02:02)
Now, Marco the soldier who
Neal Girandola (1:02:01)
Sure.
Yeah, that died.
Android (1:02:06)
He had a cyst on his arm.
that was infected for a very long time before he did anything about it, even before this. So they tried to say that he was the, you know, model of health, but he wasn't, he was sick. He probably had some sort of blood poisoning from the cyst on his arm ⁓ that was severely infected. And then, you know, he died at the
Neal Girandola (1:02:13)
even before this incident. Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Android (1:02:31)
The only person that puts him at the scene of the hospital is his sister.
Neal Girandola (1:02:35)
Mm-hmm.
Android (1:02:37)
when they
want to talk to eric eric and say yeah i was there
Neal Girandola (1:02:40)
So why would they
lie about, why would he lie about that? Did the family try to sue the government or something?
Android (1:02:46)
It was the sister that brought in that whole part of the story. There was no military record. The military record of Marco says he was off that night. Is that true or not? We don't know. We don't really know what's true. Right.
Neal Girandola (1:02:50)
Yeah, right.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying is she is
she bringing it up in that regards? So she could say I could sue you guys because you put them in danger or something along those lines. Okay.
Android (1:03:02)
Yeah.
So all the military trucks and everything that was happening that night, the military came out and said that it was a drill. It was a military drill because that base is, that's all they do there are special drills, just to let you know. Right. Right.
Neal Girandola (1:03:11)
Mm-hmm.
Well, yeah, I mean, that's
Yeah, right, right. But if they're hiding something, that would be the first thing I would say.
That as a military base, we know that they'd say, yeah, it was a military drill. ⁓ So that one I'm I'm I don't care about.
Android (1:03:30)
So remember, right,
remember that the hospital, the section was closed off, right? They said it was closed off. Well, we found out that it was closed off because the hospital was building a cardio wing in that area. It's under construction. We were waiting for all the new cardio equipment to arrive. Yes. Yes, of course it would be, right?
Neal Girandola (1:03:43)
also under construction. Okay.
Alright, but that would be a great place to put an alien. It is separate from everything. There's no one over there.
Android (1:03:56)
Right, and guess what? The equipment was delivered in black boxes by guess who? The military. So the military is to this regional hospital, it's not a military hospital, but it's a regional hospital, but they're bringing in this cardio equipment for them.
Neal Girandola (1:04:02)
Okay.
The government? Yeah. Military.
But what are you
saying? What does that mean? What are you telling me?
Android (1:04:19)
I'm just saying that why is the military at a civilian hospital bringing in their equipment? That makes no sense to me. Yeah. I mean, there's a hospital here, and I see them get trucks that drive up bringing new equipment. They're not military trucks. OK. Now here's where it gets funny. That night, apparently at the hospital, there was a dwarf couple that was having a baby that night. How sweet is that? Little people.
Neal Girandola (1:04:24)
okay, okay, I see. I didn't know what you were saying. Okay, that's questionable. Okay, yeah, gotcha.
Hmm?
military okay interesting okay
Mm.
little little people little
Android (1:04:48)
And the lady was in labor when they were bringing it up and a soldier actually helped her into the hospital. Okay. So they're like small alien people. They were actually freaking dwarves. Right.
Neal Girandola (1:04:54)
Okay.
Android (1:05:01)
So here's where we, ⁓
Neal Girandola (1:05:01)
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
You're not gonna go fast that that that quickly. So hold on. Hold on. Whoa, stop the show.
Android (1:05:12)
Look, some of the
best, some of my best military friends actually helped dwarves. That's all I'm going to say. They're known for that. Dropping cardio equipment and helping dwarves. mean, if you look at Brazilian military, that's what you're going to see. What are they known for? Top things. Dropping cardio equipment and helping dwarves give birth to their babies. Like where the, where did that come from?
Neal Girandola (1:05:16)
All right. So, somebody. So
helping dwarfs.
All right, wait a minute. So wait a minute. This is what this so
somebody's saying, look, it wasn't aliens. It was just a dwarf couple. They were happened to be coming into the hospital. She was giving birth and the soldier was helping the dwarf lady into the hospital as she's giving birth. And that's what they're saying that that was. Okay. They went as far as to say there was a dwarf couple there that night. Was that confirmed?
Android (1:05:48)
the hospital.
That's pretty far-fetched.
just what they said, right? This is what one witness said, right?
Neal Girandola (1:06:01)
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. The military
is here to help the dwarf couple give birth to their baby. Okay. All right. I mean, that's pretty cool. Okay.
Android (1:06:09)
Yes. Okay.
I'm gonna weigh in now. I'm gonna weigh in.
Neal Girandola (1:06:17)
Yeah, yeah, let's
get to it. Andrew, is this a mostly true alien story based on everything we just heard and all that was great, great information, by the way. Good stuff. Way to fill this all in. Is this, in your opinion, a mostly true alien story or not?
Android (1:06:33)
Yes.
Neal Girandola (1:06:36)
Wait, you're saying you're saying that this is aliens that crashed landed killed these guys because of whatever the ammonia smell to put you know that the girls did see an alien that the farmers saw the alien ship fly over the trucker saw the alien ship crash.
Android (1:06:36)
Yes.
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (1:06:53)
All of its arm and the army's trying to cover it up military.
Android (1:06:55)
And I'm going to tell you what convinced me.
The guy that in the truck that saw the crash site, Carlos, ⁓ he's in this documentary. And this dude is, this is 25 years later.
He is riddled with emotion. He is sobbing. He is so like crying.
Neal Girandola (1:07:16)
sobbing. Yeah,
Android (1:07:19)
Like,
Neal Girandola (1:07:19)
no.
Android (1:07:20)
and if this guy's, if this guy is lying, dude, right? Cause all we have in this, we have no physical evidence. We have no photographs other than the photograph of the guy that is the little muto, whatever his name is, right? In the town, the homeless guy that rolls around in mud and, and, know, shits his pants or whatever he does in the town. That's the only thing that we have to go on is witnesses. Do I believe the girls? No.
Neal Girandola (1:07:23)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Android (1:07:48)
I don't believe the
don't believe that. I don't know if people saw aliens or not, but what this guy witnessed at the crash site was something that is not of this world or of this world and we've made it. So it's alien, at least alien in nature. So yes, I'm going to call it a mostly true alien story.
Neal Girandola (1:07:59)
Okay.
Wow, okay, wow, I didn't see that coming, but I didn't know which way you were going to go, but I didn't see you leaning into that.
Android (1:08:13)
He, this guy
is like, he is so emotional. He's like here and he's speaking in Portuguese and he's like, here's where it happened. He goes, I can still see the crash. I can still see everything. I can still smell it. It's, it's, and he was riddled with
Neal Girandola (1:08:17)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
There's one thing I am going to call it out again on you one more time. You believe stories when you are able to see the video and hear people talk about it more than you do if it was just a story without any of that witness testimony on video. Yeah.
Android (1:08:38)
Yeah.
Yeah, that helps so much because all
we have is witness account. And I mean, how many stories have we done so far that we have witness accounts? And I'm like, that's bullshit,
That's all that. But to see this guy and to hear this guy talk about it, dude, he, he, it was, brought emotion in me how, how he was overwhelmed by it. I didn't cry. I almost sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-
Neal Girandola (1:08:49)
Yeah, right, Right, yeah, yeah.
Did you cry? you have to? Did you almost did? Did you well up? Did you well up a little? You'd turn away from
your wife?
Android (1:09:05)
I was just
like, this guy is, and I kept rewinding it and watching it just to see like, is he like faking this shit? Is he lying? No. The guy's not lying. Everybody else, everybody else in the video, this is the truck driver. that was.
Neal Girandola (1:09:09)
Wow.
⁓ okay. So he's the one that convinced you this but this is the truck driver. This is a truck driver. So this is the guy
that convinced you but he never saw the alien. He just saw the ship.
Android (1:09:23)
That's why I'm saying I don't believe the girls. don't believe there were aliens. I think a ship crashed and I think the military was able to find what whatever was in it, whatever human or.
Neal Girandola (1:09:31)
Why would the guy cry
over seeing a ship that crashed?
I think you got hoodwinked.
Android (1:09:34)
know because remember
he said that when he got up to the sea he thought it was a small plane possibly it crashed and then when he got there he realized this was no plane this was some side of other other craft and there's nobody here I can help
Neal Girandola (1:09:40)
Yeah. Yeah.
right? Sure. Sure.
I would have gathered up all kinds of broken materials from that crash site taken a throw to my truck. It showed up right away, which was another interesting thing. Okay. All right. So you say it is a mostly true alien story. Now it's my turn to weigh in. I this case does check every UFO box alien encounter box for me. They got the witnesses. You got the government denial.
Android (1:09:51)
He couldn't though, because remember the military showed up right away. Right.
Neal Girandola (1:10:10)
You have the mystery illness.
but you have the one missing piece of all of this. that's, you know, of course you can never prove it,
this isn't ancient history. It happened in 1996. So these people are still alive. You were able to witness and see the videos in the documentary, which I think affected you ⁓ more. You're able to see that I did not see the documentary. So I'm basing this off of the information.
Android (1:10:34)
Right.
Neal Girandola (1:10:35)
that you shared that I read in the
Android (1:10:38)
Right.
Neal Girandola (1:10:39)
And in my opinion, ⁓ yeah, the girls you discredited the girls for me when their money came into the conversation for me. ⁓ I think they did see something in town. ⁓ And I don't know that they knew what they saw. And I think they were caught up in the Chubacabra hole, you know,
Android (1:10:47)
Right.
Neal Girandola (1:11:00)
mythology behind that and the sensationalism that was happening at that time over that
Android (1:11:02)
Right.
Neal Girandola (1:11:04)
and then the other alien stuff that was going on in the area so they got caught up in a mom mom got greedy wanted money she wanted this suitcase filled with cash but you know probably one of them i don't know if that story's even true now that they're you accepting money to tell their
Android (1:11:18)
Right.
Neal Girandola (1:11:19)
I think something was seen. think there was definitely a ⁓ an incident with something that looked odd and weird. The thing that crashed is the only thing that's throwing me off and the farmer saying that they saw something hovering and crashing.
And then the military getting involved. Do you believe that the military was telling people not to say anything?
Do you believe the military showed up where let's go to the farmer, the guy that you do believe or the trucker?
Android (1:11:44)
Yeah, I think they did because remember when I said that NORAD that they scrambled military immediately after they got the call from NORAD after NORAD said it crashed 200 miles east of San Paulo, which was Virginia. yeah, the military was on the way there because several hours passed before the thing actually went down that people saw it. Right.
Neal Girandola (1:11:58)
Yeah. All right. So.
So
if based on that, the military was tracking something, they knew something was
It feels like to me...
Android (1:12:15)
But remember, it wasn't Brazilian military. It was us. was NORAD. NORAD reported to Brazilian defense and Brazilian defense, Brazilian military showed up at the site.
Neal Girandola (1:12:19)
You nor but but but who showed up at the site?
Yeah. So
there, what, whoever was tracking was tracking it in real time. Like they saw, they knew what was happening. This thing was happening. It was traveling and it crashed. That thing crashed. wasn't confirmed that anything aliens came from it. In my opinion, I
here's what I feel like happened. I do feel like this entire thing was a fringe
there was some sort of technology that they were tracking.
⁓ that may have escaped or got away or got out. I don't know that I feel like it's aliens though. I kind of feel like it's more of a science experiment or a, something that went wrong and these people were damaged by it. And what we were seeing as a result of that, or these people were trying to escape or get away or do something. It may have actually even been someone in the air force or military that were normal soldiers that
got caught up in some test of tech, knowledge that infected them and they turned into looking like they were looking. ⁓ but for me,
Android (1:13:20)
Right, oh yeah, I know, I hear you.
Neal Girandola (1:13:26)
don't think this is a mostly true alien story. I think this is a military event that went wrong. think some witnesses saw some things. think the girls were lying or they saw something in town that was freaked them out. Yeah. Freak them out.
Android (1:13:28)
Wow.
I think they saw the guy. I think they saw
the guy. mean, look, the fact that Carlos picked up a piece of the ship, which we heard at Roswell too, right? It was like a piece of aluminum foil that you could crumple it and then it would go back into shape, right?
Neal Girandola (1:13:46)
Mm hmm. So right,
there's no denying that that that's what I'm saying is I think this is military technology they were testing that went wrong. These guys got their image. ⁓
Android (1:14:00)
Well, remember I said that this is a mostly
true alien story because the ship is alien in nature, meaning that it's like something we've never seen before. But I'm not saying there were aliens on the ship.
Neal Girandola (1:14:05)
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well then I can. All right. Okay. All right. I'm,
know, I'm a ufologist. I'm a sexy ufologist. I'm just, you know, I'm just saying what I'm, hearing from you, you know, and all of this stuff. So, all right. So that is the Virginia UFO incident. ⁓ they referred to it as a Brazil's Roswell, which is, mean, I guess I kind of agree with that. It was a city shaken, soldiers silenced, and an official story that
somehow answers nothing. Andrew says it is a mostly true alien story. I didn't see that coming. I say it is not a mostly true alien story.
Android (1:14:43)
Yeah, but you believed
in Roswell. So if you're call it the Brazilian Roswell, I didn't even believe in Roswell. I said the Roswell. Right. But don't say it then. Don't call it. Don't call it that.
Neal Girandola (1:14:50)
I'm not calling it that that's what they are calling it. People are calling it from from Virginia, Virginia. All
right. I'm going to not call it the Brazil's Ros Ros, Brazil's Rosway. It's not, it's not that. That's right. They wish it was. All
Android (1:15:01)
They wish.
Neal Girandola (1:15:05)
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Android (1:15:18)
Hey, thanks, buddy.
Neal Girandola (1:15:21)
be kind to the aliens when they get here. Bye everybody.
Android (1:15:26)
Bye.