Neo (00:00)
Andrew, you know what I just
Android (00:01)
that?
Neo (00:02)
I never let you do
open intro to our show. So today, I'm going to let you just pay attention to how I do it. So welcome to another episode of Mostly
Alien Stories.
Android (00:14)
Welcome to another episode of Mostly True Alien Stories.
Neo (00:17)
I already did it.
Yeah, I already did it.
Android (00:18)
I thought that was.
Neo (00:19)
just going to work on it. You work on it for a little while. All right. I'll let you
Android (00:21)
Okay, alright.
Neo (00:41)
I am very excited about today's episode. And I know I say that for every episode, but today we're going to be telling a story, Andrew, about this guy in Italy. Are you brushed up on your Italian?
Android (00:53)
Uh-huh.
Si molto bene.
Palato in italiano. Palo in italiano. Si? Si.
Neo (00:56)
you are. Yeah, you're ready. You're ready for this one. But this
guy, this guy was a security guard in Italy and he was abducted not once,
but 11 times by aliens.
Android (01:11)
know 11's a magical number, so that's kind of cool. 7 and 11. That's why it's called 7 and 11, because both those numbers are very magical. have meaning. I don't know what the meanings are, but I've heard that.
Neo (01:21)
It just means you're open at seven and you're open from seven to eleven.
Android (01:26)
Yeah, but most 7-Elevens are open 24 hours a day.
Neo (01:29)
Yeah, there's seven days a week, 11 hours a day.
Android (01:32)
No, that doesn't make
No.
Neo (01:34)
don't
they just call it 24 hours?
Android (01:37)
724 that makes better
then they could get Kiefer Sutherland to come back and do the 24
Such a great series such a great
Neo (01:43)
I love that show, that series. That was really good.
Android (01:47)
He could be there like the guy behind the counter 24 hours
Neo (01:50)
Shit happens to him like every minute. He's like, yeah, yeah.
Android (01:52)
Every minute somebody comes in with a bomb, a gun, people choking, everything.
In that 24 hour span, all this shit goes down while he's trying to just ring out cigarettes for people.
Neo (02:05)
Breaks up a gang.
Android (02:06)
I think we got something. We should contact Fox and let them know we're going to revamp 24, but with a totally different spin to
Neo (02:06)
Mm.
Android (02:14)
no president. Yep.
Neo (02:14)
place in 7-Eleven, but
it's not called 7-Eleven, it's called 24.
Android (02:19)
You know,
Neo (02:19)
724.
Android (02:20)
in Japan it's called AMPM.
Neo (02:22)
because they're open in the morning, closed at night.
Android (02:23)
No, they're open 24 hours.
Neo (02:25)
Let's just call it 24
Android (02:27)
Yeah,
yeah, I agree.
You ever been to Japan?
Neo (02:30)
I have never been to Japan, I'm not
Android (02:32)
are you banned?
Neo (02:33)
No, I'm just not allowed.
Android (02:35)
Okay.
I don't want to know.
I kind of want to ask, but I'm not going to ask.
Neo (02:38)
Ha ha.
Yeah, don't ask. Don't ask.
story that we're going
today on mostly true alien stories takes place in security guard who has been abducted not once but 11 times
And as we always do on this show, we will determine whether we think this is a mostly true alien story or not.
But before we get to that, Andrew, I'm sure you have some alien news and entertainment you'd like to discuss.
Android (03:07)
is real stuff. This is from CBS News.
CBS News, you know, the news station that nobody watches. Sorry.
Neo (03:09)
the CBS News, then bring it home.
Yeah, yeah, but you know
what? No one does. No one ever does news from CBS.
Android (03:21)
Right, I'm giving CBS credit, so this is CBS News. UFO is moving at hundreds of miles an hour
Neo (03:22)
Yeah. Yeah.
Android (03:29)
underwater.
Neo (03:29)
That would be amazing to see.
Android (03:29)
that's,
yeah. So a Republican representative, Tim Burchett, said in an interview Wednesday that an admiral, whom he did not identify, had told him of an unidentified craft moving at incredible speeds in the
tell me something's moving at 100 miles an hour under the
A large football field, size, that's the size of it, underwater. The Tennessee congressman told former Republican congressman Matt Goetz.
who now hosts the show on the right wing news outlet, One America News, okay? This was documented
Neo (03:59)
Sure, I've heard of Matt.
hate to interrupt your news. You were on a flow there. You were really zooming through. I know it was really good. You were in there, but I think you can get it back. My question is, did you say it was a football field size craft? That's 100 yards, listeners. 100 yards.
Android (04:05)
And I was feeling my news voice and everything. Okay, go ahead.
It's the size of a football field. Yes, the size, a hundred yards. Yeah. Yeah.
Neo (04:22)
100 yards.
Android (04:23)
You're right, that's 100. I just thought about it. is 100 yards. But is it including the end zones? Because then it's an extra what, 10 yards, right?
Neo (04:23)
All right. That's 100 yards.
Oh yeah, so it's a whole, it's 120 yards. It might be 15 yards. It might be 30, it might be 130. I have no idea.
Android (04:33)
120 yards? See, I don't know. Okay. All right.
So this was a documented case. And I have an admiral telling me this stuff. Birchett, this year, well 2024, Birchett, known for claims that the US government is hiding existence of UFOs and other alien
Neo (04:46)
What year was this? This year?
2024.
Android (04:55)
said anything is possible given the vastness of God's great universe.
However, he told Americans,
not to worry about the suspected extraterrestrials' extraordinary advances. I'm not worried about them harming me," he said. I mean, with that capabilities,
would have barbecued us a long time evidence has been produced of intelligent life beyond Earth.
Neo (05:14)
saying, he's he's saying.
love when he even said when they referred to
Android (05:17)
I think that.
Neo (05:20)
when they. Yeah, like like that's that's how you're going to calm us down. they would have done something. They would have barbecued us a long time ago.
Android (05:19)
A total annihilation as barbecuing?
What if I, let me rephrase it. Let me rephrase it. I'm not worried about them harming me. He said, I mean, with that type of capabilities, we could have a huge barbecue all together.
That's better, right?
Neo (05:41)
Yeah,
you made it sound nicer.
Android (05:44)
So it
was identified and now dubbed as an unidentified anomalous
Neo (05:50)
anybody
have video of that or I mean who actually saw
Android (05:54)
an admiral reported it. They can't identify who he is.
Okay, so in November, the Pentagon Office investigating reports of UAPs received 21 reports.
that contain enough data for intelligence community to continue actively
Neo (06:08)
they probably got thousands of reports Thousands, but they're saying 21 of them were credible enough for them to say hey, let's go look. Let's continue to look into this Do you
Android (06:11)
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure of it.
Yeah, so they're going to keep looking into it.
Neo (06:21)
do you have any examples of any of those any of those reports?
Android (06:25)
I do in my files. I'm not allowed to share them with you.
Neo (06:29)
Did you know we were going to have a podcast recording today that we were going to maybe. The fuck.
Android (06:32)
Yeah, I did, but I got the call this
morning not to share any of that information. So my life is in danger right now. Again, yeah, they call like, they literally call me a minute before the show goes.
Neo (06:37)
Again?
Yeah, but you know what? At least they're listening to our podcast.
Android (06:49)
I think it's great. I think it's awesome.
Neo (06:51)
Yeah. Yeah. Do
you know, I looked up, not to, we'll get back to your news, but this has to do with it. The agencies, did you know that there's only four, well, I may be wrong, but the research I
that there's only four government agencies that look into phenomenons, UAPs, alien, you know, whatever I want to call it. Did you know this?
Android (07:08)
UAPs.
There's actually
a fifth one.
I got the text this morning. It's us. We are the fifth agency.
Neo (07:19)
Wait.
I don't want that responsibility.
Android (07:24)
Well, too bad. You knew they were listening.
All the tech said was, welcome aboard, you're the fifth agency. That's all it said.
Neo (07:31)
Okay, so we don't know what we have to do yet.
Android (07:33)
No, they haven't told us what we're going to have to do yet. I hope it involves probing.
Neo (07:39)
you want to get in on the probing.
You want
Android (07:40)
why not?
Neo (07:41)
want to find out.
Android (07:41)
Why should all these other people get probed?
Neo (07:44)
What do you think they're finding out by probing us? What do you think?
Android (07:44)
Just wondering.
cleaner colons?
cleaner colons. cleaner planet.
Neo (07:50)
Nah, it's gotta be deeper than that.
Android (07:52)
Much deeper.
I'm gonna mention something right now and then we can never speak of it again.
Neo (07:57)
Alright, let's go.
Android (07:59)
Majestic 12.
Neo (08:01)
Majestic 12, Yeah,
We're not even allowed to talk about it any further than that.
Android (08:05)
I don't think we can even say it Majestic 12. Can we say Majestic 12?
Neo (08:09)
We can if we want to tell people what Majestic 12 is.
Android (08:12)
Supposedly it's an organization that appeared in fake documents that were circulated by ufologists in 1984. Now these are just UFO conspiracy theory folks. I'm not going to say
Majestic 12 is real, but the rumor is that it has a secret committee of scientists, military leaders, and government officials. It was formed in 1947 by an executive order by President Harry S. Truman. That's all I'm going to say about it. Don't ask me any more questions.
Neo (08:42)
Why do you think why do you think
why do you think Truman? Wanted that founded. What do you think that evidence that he was getting that felt him? Felt the need for him to form this organization Roswell.
Android (08:53)
Roswell
Roswell But I'm not gonna talk about it anymore. That's it
Neo (08:57)
Yeah. That's it? I mean,
this is the most boring podcast ever.
Android (09:02)
I'm gonna give you the name of the organization, but I'm not gonna tell you anything about it. Go.
Neo (09:08)
Enjoy our show.
Android (09:10)
Enjoy the shit. All right. I'm going to give you some really cool news. That is, I know, all the stuff I deliver. I don't know.
Neo (09:15)
It's about time.
What do got?
Android (09:20)
bait tool, one of the bait tools, John
On August the 23rd, 1974,
John claimed to have seen a UFO moving slowly over his New York City apartment by the East
The claim, which came in the middle of John's famous 18-month-long weekend period, was backed by his girlfriend Mei
and by other residents of the city.
May explained that John was lying in bed and decided to go out onto the balcony for a cigarette
As he was smoking, he noticed odd lights flashing. And as he turned,
he saw this silent circular object, dark in color and adorned with white pulsing lights around the rim with one red light on top. Standing on the balcony naked and in
John shouted to May,
to come and confirm the
She later wrote that a large circular object was
With no noise,
I started yelling, it's a
She described it was two or three stories above them and just cleared the rooftop of the next building. The saucer crawled past at a slow pace before turning sideways and floating down the river. Then it hovered above the building before heading towards Brooklyn.
After stopping short over a bridge, it flew upwards into the sky.
Neo (10:37)
So he saw all of this. saw the whole path of it all. Okay. Was there any sound? Any sound?
Android (10:41)
The sighting came, no
sound, they said it was silent. They said it was silent, no noise. The sighting came just after John had finished work on the album Walls and Bridges. And he added a note in the inner sleeve that read,
23rd of August 1974 at nine o'clock I saw a
The event was referenced to in the lyrics, there's UFOs over New York and I ain't surprised. In John's song,
Nobody told me.
So yeah, I thought it was kind of cool. That's in the song. Now what I find interesting in all of this, you know, is that I lived in New York City, right? And it says that it's moving slowly over his New York City apartment by the East River. Now, John Lennon lived in the Dakota, which was on 77 in Central Park West.
Neo (11:08)
Hmm. Wait, that's in his song?
Android (11:35)
So there's all of Central Park that he has to look over. So that freaking ship must have been pretty significant because you've got to go all the way to the East River.
to see it.
Neo (11:48)
Are they... But they said that other people saw it.
Android (11:52)
Yeah, they don't talk about the other people, but apparently other people had come out to talk about that night that they saw lights in the sky.
Neo (11:59)
Do you know what day of the week that was?
Android (12:01)
no, I think it was a Thursday.
Neo (12:03)
You're just making that up, but I'm asking for a reason because I what if it was a blimp, you know, like it was a sporting event happening. Maybe it was, uh, yeah, late at night. Those things have lights, you know, the sporting events, the, you know, the, they have a good
Android (12:11)
What?
No. On the east side?
What sporting event happens on the east side in New York?
Neo (12:22)
Could have been coming from New Jersey.
Android (12:24)
It flew around.
Neo (12:26)
Yeah, I wanted to see John Lennon.
Did you ever think of that? You ever think of that? We're up in there going, there's John Lennon, butt ass naked on the porch.
Android (12:33)
interesting that they added that he was naked.
Neo (12:35)
Yeah, yeah, I don't think the aliens like that.
Android (12:39)
You don't think they want to strip you down?
Neo (12:40)
No, that's
probably why they left.
It's like, fuck.
Android (12:43)
They were like, come on, you're smoking? Ugh. you're naked? Ugh. Your hair in those shoes? dress? No, sorry.
Neo (12:46)
Buttass naked.
You call that a penis?
Android (12:54)
Could have been, could have
Neo (12:55)
What else?
Android (12:56)
got a movie recommendation for everybody.
sci-fi horror film John Carpenter's They Live.
Neo (13:06)
tell me about it. I've heard of it. I've never seen it.
Android (13:09)
so they live as a 1988 film directed by John Carpenter, who did The Thing and who did Halloween, the original Halloween. And actually he wrote the music for that too. A lot of people don't know that. It's a political commentary on capitalism, economic inequality, and the exploitation of the poor. The film revolves around the lead character who is, ready?
Neo (13:16)
Sure. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Android (13:37)
Rowdy, Roddy Piper.
Neo (13:39)
Let's go. We're out. He, I didn't know he was an actor. I know he's a performer. Right, there you go. But you're saying this is like the movie to watch just based on because of its campiness of it or?
Android (13:41)
Yes! Freaking... Roddy Piper! He didn't know he was an
This is because it's true.
premise of the movie is you need to get a pair of special glasses. That's all I'm gonna say. I don't wanna ruin it for people. You know what, it's been 1982. If you haven't seen it by now, go see it. If you have seen it, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
Neo (14:07)
there's no spoiler alerts here because we are going to spoil shit. We're spoiling shit.
Android (14:08)
No spoiler alerts, okay. So what happens
is, what I love is his name is Nada. N-A-D-A. Nada, which means nothing in Spanish. Okay, so he's a nobody, basically. He's Nada, right? And he finds these sunglasses, right, or these special glasses, and with these glasses, he can see what the aliens look like. And they look like skeletons. It's the cr-
Neo (14:18)
Right. Yep.
So wait, he
has to wear these glasses in order to see what the aliens look like. Otherwise they're invisible?
Android (14:37)
to see them in order to see them, right?
Otherwise they look like you and me. So you could be one of them.
Neo (14:46)
okay. Got you. And what is the what is what is the agenda of these aliens?
Android (14:47)
You are probably one of they. just don't these glasses don't do anything.
They are controlling everyone on Earth.
Neo (14:56)
To do what?
Android (14:58)
to do their bidding.
Neo (15:00)
Like what? For what? Have sex with them? Feed them?
Android (15:01)
Like, no, no, it's just
all about greed. It's all about, really, the whole movie's about greed. keep the man, you know, it's like the man keeping you down. That's what it's like. The man's keeping you down. But are you ready for this? The best line, one of the best lines ever in a movie came from this film.
Neo (15:06)
Are there?
Android (15:19)
The line is, I've come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble
Neo (15:27)
Yes, yes. That's from Rowdy Roddy Piper. Is he still alive?
Android (15:29)
awesome as that that's really Roddy Piper I mean
no he's dead macho man as well rest in peace I've come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass and I'm all out of
Neo (15:42)
And I'm all out of bubble gum.
Android (15:43)
you know why he should have gone to 24
Neo (15:44)
We gotta bring that. What's that?
Android (15:46)
He went to 7-Eleven, but he got there at 11-03 and they were closed.
Neo (15:51)
They have never figured it out hours wise.
There's a 7-Eleven down the street from me the guy that works there, his name is Gandhi. so every morning I walk to see Gandhi.
Android (15:59)
is.
Neo (16:02)
so happy. And you walk in there and he's just so happy you're buying a shitty coffee from his 7-Eleven counter and he's proud of his coffee he made.
Android (16:11)
that they had pretty good coffee, do they not?
Neo (16:13)
They actually do have some great coffee. They have good coffee. Wawa has good coffee and I don't eat at McDonald's, but I do go there from time to time to get their coffee. Their coffee is excellent.
but Starbucks just came out with this Cortado It's and I get the brown sugar Cortado and it's just three shots of espresso with a little brown sugar in it. my god. It is the best. What's that?
Android (16:38)
No, you know where the best coffee is?
The best coffee is from Gabby's in Boulder,
If you're listening, Gabby's, we'd love for you to send us some coffee, because that would be awesome, because I actually buy your coffee, I'm drinking your coffee right now, and it is fricking delicious.
Neo (16:54)
Go Gabby. And you know, by the way, listeners, we have no sponsors yet. We're just plugging everybody.
Android (16:55)
Gabby's Coffee.
We will get a sponsor now that we're the fifth agency.
Neo (17:04)
That is true. The fifth agency always gets sponsors.
Android (17:08)
Yeah, because the fourth one didn't. Neither did the third.
Neo (17:09)
That's right.
Yeah. What else you got?
Android (17:12)
That's all I got for you today.
Neo (17:14)
All right. Well, listen, I did take your recommendation and I watched the first episode of paradise and paradise. Exactly. Like you said at the end of that first episode, it just blew my mind. Yeah, I was, it was very cool. Watched it with my wife and she's a hard one to please to get her to sit down and watch, you know, certain shows that I like. And she, she was into it. She was into
Android (17:27)
Right?
Right?
Neo (17:38)
I'm looking forward to watching the next one.
see if it can continue and you're gonna ruin it for me i love it i love
Android (17:41)
it's good. So in the second episode that.
See, now that would be
a spoiler if I talked about it right now. It would be a spoiler. For people.
Neo (17:50)
I don't Yeah, but see, I don't mind that.
I'm still gonna watch it.
Android (17:54)
It's so good. It's so freaking
So,
Neo (17:57)
Well, Andrew,
Android (17:58)
my goodness. I love it.
Neo (17:58)
it is time now to get to our story of this episode.
as we always do on mostly true alien stories, am going to share a reported alien phenomenon. You and I are going to.
determine whether we think it is a mostly true alien story or not. And today's episode takes us all the way to Italy.
Android (18:15)
Mm-hmm.
Neo (18:17)
in 1978 or now
don't need to speak Italian.
Android (18:19)
When the moon hits
your eye like a big pizza pie that's a moody
Neo (18:24)
December 6,
1979. It was a cold night in Torriglia, Italy.
Android (18:31)
Corruglia
Neo (18:33)
a small mountain village in Italy. It's nestled in the Ligurian Apennines. About 30 kilometers. Yeah, but I've never spoken. Never spoken. This is first time I've seen Italian, okay.
Android (18:40)
What a horror. Aren't you Italian? I mean, come on. Spaghetti.
Neo (18:49)
about 30 kilometers northeast of Genoa Pierre Fortunara Zanfreda, a 26 year old night watchman working for the Val Bisagno private security firm was on duty. His job was
the empty vacation homes scattered through the hills,
no burglars or trespassers disrupted the peace.
at 1130 PM, as he approached Villa Casa Nostra,
An elegant but isolated estate is flashlight flickered and then it died.
And then almost,
Android (19:19)
should have had Duracell batteries.
Neo (19:20)
maybe I don't know if that would have mattered.
Android (19:21)
Duracell batteries,
that's another one of our sponsors.
Neo (19:24)
obviously he didn't have Duracell batteries in that flashlight. Yeah, because Duracell batteries really last and last long.
Android (19:25)
He didn't have him, so he's probably using Rayovac.
Neo (19:31)
Almost as his flashlight died, his radio cut
And it left only a faint crackle of static.
he saw them.
bright lights were moving unnaturally through the darkness near the villa that he was inspecting and thinking he had stumbled upon a burglary in progress. He cautiously
hand tightening around his Smith and Wesson. He had a 38 special revolver
As he got closer his breath hitched
and the lights weren't from flashlights or lanterns as he thought maybe it was a burglar were hovering so now they're hovering lights yep and they're pulsating they have this eerie glow the air around him suddenly turned oppressively hot according to him
Android (20:06)
wow, okay.
Neo (20:14)
an unnatural heat that made him sweat despite the winter chill yeah
Android (20:19)
it was well okay that's
Neo (20:22)
And then he saw them. The towering over him, there were these three massive figures at least nine to 10 feet tall. Their skin was greenish and wrinkled.
yellow triangular eyes that
and their foreheads were rigid with red veins running across them.
Android (20:38)
Ew.
Neo (20:39)
that, the foreheads just red veins running across them. This is the ugliest alien descriptions I've ever heard.
Android (20:45)
Wow, this sounds like they needed like oil of Olay, but I don't think that was created in 78.
Neo (20:49)
No, I think it was.
their skin was greenish though. Right. So we haven't heard that much and very wrinkled.
Android (20:55)
No,
they're always like gray with black eyes and right. We never heard about glowing eyes yet. I haven't heard of glowing eyes. Weird. Okay.
Neo (20:59)
Yeah, yeah, yelp.
Yeah, that triangular eyes. They glowed. Yeah, their
mouths appeared metallic. As though they were mechanical. So it was like a mechanical appearance, but yet still alien with the skin and all that
arms were long and muscular, so strong, and their fingers thick and
And they moved slowly but deliberately
dressed in what looked like metallic suits.
Okay, so a lot going on there for
My poor guy is in Zanfretta He did the only thing he knew to do.
he raised his gun and he fired at them.
Android (21:31)
Why would he do that?
Neo (21:32)
Well, I don't know, I mean, I guess...
Android (21:34)
They could have been asking him like, hey, do you know where there's a cool pizza parlor?
Neo (21:38)
He may, he may not have been a very good security guard. You know what I mean? Like, right. Scared of all kinds of shit.
Android (21:43)
Right, the game of God,
Neo (21:47)
Yeah.
Android (21:47)
Okay.
Neo (21:48)
I once met a, an exterminator. had to come to our house and he had to go in the barn because we had these Vietnamese burrowing rats.
And I don't, if you've ever known what these are, they're like rats that are this
Android (21:55)
Ooh.
Neo (21:59)
they build these.
like volcanoes out of the dirt. They're like volcano, uh, uh, nests and they build them all along the wall of the barn and like, you know, 30, 40 of them. And they're just eerie looking little mini volcanoes of dirt. And that's where they nest in there. And I was telling this exterminator, know, you gotta figure this out and whatever, take it. I take him in, take him into the barn. And he walked in like this, he's preparing for
What is this
I had to I I had to explain to him what they were
Android (22:31)
He'd never seen him.
Neo (22:34)
all of a
jumps and he's like good What's that and it was a rabbit coming through like he got so he'd like shit
I turned him I said, I think you're in the wrong business friend. Yeah Yeah, move on Then Fred I'm thinking I'm thinking I mean you just
Android (22:45)
So, so I'm playing it that not a good security guard got it
Neo (22:52)
He's just going to start
Zanfretta started shooting.
Android (22:53)
Yeah, shoot first, ask questions later.
Neo (22:56)
So he shi- he fired five shots. but the bullets had no effect. So the creatures didn't fall. They didn't bleed. Instead, instead at the time a blinding flash of white light engulfed everything. And then there was nothing.
The next thing Zanfretta knew, he was lying on the
cold.
his gun nowhere to be seen. His heart was racing as as I would expect it
And he was sweating despite being so cold. Yeah. So yeah, and his clothes were warm to the touch. Like as if he was exposed to like this intense heat.
Android (23:20)
freezing cold right he's in shock okay
first because he had just pissed himself.
Neo (23:30)
it was very wet and smelled like pee.
Those damn aliens peed on me. That was- that's not for me, man. They peed on me.
Android (23:35)
Why would they do that? That's not mine.
I was like, I need a shower after all this. And they were like, we will give you a shower.
Neo (23:45)
Those aliens also shit my pants.
Android (23:48)
Why would they do that?
Neo (23:49)
Why
would they do that? all the way here and shit my pants
Android (23:53)
shit and piss in my pants to make me look bad! Freaking loser people with their red veins and their triangles!
Neo (23:58)
That wasn't me!
motherfuckers.
what is going on?
Android (24:10)
Okay, okay,
Neo (24:12)
At this point, he was very panicked and he scrambled for his radio and he managed to call his dispatcher Albano Luizzi at this was like 12 15 in the
Android (24:18)
Okay. Okay.
Neo (24:23)
Albano had said that he his voice was filled with terror
crackling through the radio, but he could tell this guy was scared
line that he said
This is where I get to speak
Loro non sono umani, which
they are not, they're not human. They're not humans. Yeah, they're not humans.
Android (24:35)
They're not human or men. Yeah. See, I translated.
Neo (24:40)
And then it was silent. So this is what Albano is reporting that this is message
through the radio and he hears they are not
Android (24:47)
Please tell me they sent help for this poor guy.
Neo (24:49)
of course they did.
Then there was silence, right? So after that message, minutes later, these guys, the guard showed up. was only minutes later. Four of his fellow security guards showed up and they found Zanfretta still in a state of shock. He was trembling. His pupils were dilated. He was obviously going through some stress.
Android (24:52)
Okay, right.
Neo (25:06)
he's laying there. He steals people's dilated. He's still in
his revolver, they found his revolver. was like 15 feet away from him and it was in the snow
and five,
Android (25:14)
Wow, okay.
Neo (25:15)
bullets were missing. were they, yeah, they were discharged from his weapon, right? But at what? Because no one saw anything. They don't know what he shot at. So they begin the investigation and this the Carabinieri, the Italian military police,
Android (25:16)
have been discharged from his right, okay?
Neo (25:28)
launch an official investigation.
interviewed this Dr. Giorgio Capello, a local physician
Android (25:34)
Okay.
Neo (25:34)
had seen a massive triangular UFO.
that was hovering over the area at the same time of the
and Capello, this Dr. Capello was not the only one to have seen it.
Over 50 residents of Tariglia later came forward. stated they had seen a bright glowing object flying over the village that
And others had reported strange electrical disturbances with radios, their televisions, everything mysteriously shutting off. So,
Shit was going down in that town of Triglia. was very disturbed, he was so disturbed, he needed help. He agreed to go under some hypnotic regression therapy. And this was conducted by a Dr. Mauro Moretti.
Android (26:02)
Right.
Neo (26:17)
was a respected hypnotist, apparently. And under the hypnosis,
the story emerges.
the creatures had taken him. He was pulled into a bright room aboard the craft. He was subjected to a strange examination and
Android (26:28)
Right.
Neo (26:32)
communicated with him. Stating a couple of things that, one of them, which they meant no harm, but we're preparing for something important.
That was the first abduction. The second abduction happened.
Literally, 20 days later on December 26th, 1978.
Android (26:50)
day after Christmas or Boxing Day, right? No, that's not Boxing Day. Is it? No.
Neo (26:54)
I've never boxed the day after Christmas.
Android (26:57)
in China.
Neo (26:58)
This time, so he's back at work 20 days later after this crazy incident.
Android (27:02)
Right. And he feels great,
right?
Neo (27:04)
This time they were like, hey, we're gonna give you a wooden gun.
right, Zanfretta?
Android (27:07)
We're gonna give
you a spatula and some latex gloves, go.
Neo (27:12)
Good luck. This time he was patrolling near the Marzano region when his car was engulfed. His car was engulfed by a beam of light. And witnesses, including his fellow security guards, saw the vanish completely. No, completely
Android (27:24)
in the light.
Neo (27:27)
And then it reappeared two hours later. So they took the whole fucking car.
Android (27:31)
Why would they, what kind of card, did he have a nice card?
like a Pougeot or Saab?
Neo (27:36)
doesn't I didn't
find out that detail yeah yeah yeah but Zanfretta was in the car too so that
Android (27:39)
Fiat, he was driving a Fiat. He's in Italy, he had to be driving a Fiat.
Neo (27:44)
disappeared it came back two hours later he's
and when he came to
Android (27:47)
Okay.
Neo (27:48)
his story was even more bizarre. So this is what he said. He described being taken to an underground alien base.
Android (27:53)
on
Or he didn't say? Okay, alright. The alien base, okay.
Neo (27:53)
I don't know. didn't say my mean
I guess maybe they have a I'm assuming he's saying on earth. Yeah, so maybe where he saw so this is what he saw. So these weird large transparent cylinders they were filled with a strange glowing fluid and in them was pulsating shimmering creature.
something he'd never seen before. mean, unlike seeing the aliens, he saw something now, he saw something even further that he had never seen before. I s- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was the first thing I'd never seen before in my life, but then I saw them! The second thing! There was a creature in a ball- in a ball!
Android (28:21)
I've never seen anything like this. The nine feet tall lizard men with triangular glowing eyes and red veins in their heads. I'm used to that. I'm used to that.
The second thing.
It was a nicer ball. It was looking good.
It was shiny. A little creature was waving. Hello.
Neo (28:44)
And these guys again they communicated with them. So this time they made these sort of cryptic statements about humanity's future.
Android (28:47)
Okay.
Neo (28:52)
hear that a lot.
But they warned that they had been observing Earth for centuries, these guys. This is what they're telling Zanfretta. And that soon, they're gonna reveal themselves. So this is 1978, remember that. we're
Android (29:06)
Right, okay, we're still waiting.
Neo (29:08)
this was the first time Zanfretta expressed fear that he might not be the only
taken. He felt like there was others being
Android (29:15)
Cool.
Neo (29:16)
and under hypnosis, he said,
say I will be taken again, and no one can stop them. want to teach me something, but I don't understand. And they are watching us always watching these are this is exactly what then Freda said
hypnosis after the second abduction.
Android (29:32)
my god, this poor guy.
Neo (29:33)
Yeah.
So now between 1979 and 1981,
reported being abducted at least 11 more times.
Android (29:41)
So yeah, so he had those two plus nine and 11 total, wow.
Neo (29:44)
Yeah, yeah. So each time the encounters followed a similar pattern, bright lights, missing time, underground bases and cryptic messages. And at one point he recalled being forced to wear a helmet that allowed him to understand the alien's language, but caused a lot of pain. It gave him a lot of pain.
during one of one abduction, the beings presented him with a small, mysterious object and asked him to give it to a human leader.
I guess like the president or a governor or a senator or somebody, don't know, somebody who's looking up, but he was never able to deliver it because it disappeared upon his return.
Android (30:21)
Look, first of all, this is really poor design. They give you a helmet that hurts your head when they try to talk to you. Badly designed. Okay, it was probably like their second prototype. And then they give you an orb, and they go here, deliver this, and then the orb disappears. How am I supposed to deliver that?
Neo (30:27)
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's it really is just poor planning. It's poor. You know, it's one of those things where, know, I think we need to start adding into our show, the alien conversations, right? So I do a lot have a lot of business meetings and do marketing strategies and stuff for, you know, companies. And, you know, we sit down and we we have team meetings every week.
you know, how do we dominate this market? How do we take over? How do we, you know, we really come up with a plan and a strategy. I just wonder, like, what are the aliens meetings like, you know, when they're
Like we're going to go down to earth and then we'll just find some dude, some random single dude in the middle of Italy. Yeah, go, go, go. No, that's not the one. we're going to find this security guard. We'll just fuck with him for a while. And then our message will be clear to everyone. Like they're not having strategy meetings. I don't think they're meeting once a week to have the, like the really let's, let's talk this through. Is this a good approach? I don't know.
Android (31:10)
Look at that guy. No, that's John Lennon naked. Keep flying.
Italian guy. Yeah.
No.
No, I think
they lack communication amongst themselves. Yeah.
Neo (31:36)
Yeah. Yeah.
So by 81, he obviously this poor guy, though, I mean, we we joke, but this poor guy, his life was really in ruins. He was really being bothered by something. And he withdrew from public. His mental health was going in the shitter
and even through it all, never changed his story.
Android (31:56)
His story,
Neo (31:57)
Yeah, so Zanfretta's case, it seemed to be not an isolated incident because in the 70s in Italy, they were experiencing massive wave of UFO activity. I think we've talked about this in the past. There's two hikers that saw bright light, one disappearing temporarily and then found later in a day's state. That was in 1978 in Montemuscine. And then in Torrita di Siena,
Android (31:59)
.
Neo (32:23)
In 78 a motor saw two small beans and metallic suits examining his car before entering a UFO. So these aliens just basically went over they really liked his car. Yeah, they love this car is like, well,
Android (32:32)
I love Italian cars, right. They went there for the food and the cars.
Neo (32:36)
then in Florence in 1978, dozens of people witnessed a metallic objects hovering over stadium, and then dropping strange white filaments with a white white filaments with
And what?
Android (32:48)
Dental floss.
Neo (32:49)
And that's their message. Everyone should floss more. The environment or cleaning your teeth. 70 and particularly around 1978, there was over 1000 cases documented nationwide in Italy of UFO sightings and encounters.
Android (32:51)
Plus clean. It's always about cleaning.
Wow.
Neo (33:06)
Okay, so, is in his seventies today. he's alive. He's still stays private. he says they're still watching. I don't know what they want, but I know they'll be back. He feels like they're going to come back.
Android (33:10)
Mm-hmm.
Neo (33:19)
he went through a lot of examinations. No one made money on this. He never made money off of this story.
that
Android (33:24)
a book or
Neo (33:25)
the story of
Zanfretta abductions, the man who saw too much in Italy. And Andrew, now I'm gonna hand it to you. And I want you to tell me whether you think this
Android (33:30)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Neo (33:35)
mostly true alien story or
Android (33:37)
Okay, so while you were telling this story, I was doing a little bit of research on our friend, Piers and Freda, and a couple things. What they realized too is that the story changed. It got more elaborate as time went on, and that could be because of the hypnosis and they could have blocked him, you know, I'm not saying that, but when they abducted him the first time, they had placed him on a steel bed.
And they had six spikes that pierced his body. And it took blood out and put it into a special machine. And they communicated with him. Are you ready? And they said to him, we are Dargos. That's who we are. We are the Dargos. They came from a dying planet of the third galaxy called Titania. And they came to check out Earth.
Neo (34:24)
Damn.
Android (34:26)
Okay. So you had talked about the orb, right? In another story, Zenz and Freda said, he said that they gave him the orb and he actually had it. And inside it was a clear sphere. Inside was like this triangle that kind of floated around inside the sphere.
Neo (34:28)
Yeah.
Android (34:43)
Okay? And he said that no one could get near the orb except him. He took the orb and buried it. All right? He said while he was burying it, as he was walking away,
Neo (34:57)
This is like the ring.
Android (34:58)
thousand. The precious make precious. Yes, it's the ring. Okay. No, it's an orb. Okay. Now.
Neo (35:04)
Yes, I know, but it
had that same effect. He's like, no one's going to get it.
Android (35:09)
Well, no, he was going to give it apparently for some special thing like to the
right?
Neo (35:14)
Mm-hmm.
Android (35:15)
has this orb, right? But apparently the orb, if anyone else besides Zanfretta got near the orb, would be
So he said he buried the orb and a rabbit, a rabbit came by and it killed the rabbit.
So the aliens hate rabbits. That's what I'm learning from this. He also said that he tried to take a video and he tried to take a photo of the orb to prove to people that he had this artifact and none of the photos came out. They all were black. Okay. Since 2008,
The Orb is gone.
Neo (35:47)
So he had it up until 2008. He wasn't handling it responsibly. He was supposed to give it to a leader and he never did. He buried it and killed rabbits.
Android (35:49)
to 2008, yeah. And then another.
So he buried it.
Neo (35:57)
They're like, wait a minute, that's not what we fucking told you. We told you to take this orb. We're entrusting you. We could go to anybody. We came to use Zanfretta We hated you this fucking orb and we need you to give this orb to a leader. And what'd you do with it? You fucking bury it in a field and just let all these rabbits fucking die and it came along? Is that what we asked you to do, Zanfretta? One fucking simple thing to do. Take this orb.
Android (35:59)
Right, right, OK.
You banished it and you killed it.
One job.
You had one job. One job. OK. Now here's what's interesting.
Neo (36:26)
You fucked it up!
Android (36:29)
On Fort George Island, the Betts family also stumbled across what they're calling an alien orb that they were actually able to take pictures of it. So if you look up the Betts family, Fort George Island, they were able to take photos of their alien orb, but Zanfretta couldn't. So it went as far as Zanfretta going.
Neo (36:47)
Wait, when
did their orb happen?
Android (36:50)
it was the 80s. I have to confirm that. It was in the 80s. After Zanfretta's, yeah. And I saw a picture of it online. It's kind of cool. It looks like a crystal ball. It was metallic though. was metallic. They found it in the woods.
Neo (36:53)
Their orb was after Zanfretta's orb.
How did they get theirs? The bets.
They fucking dug up Zanfretta's fucking orb.
Android (37:09)
No, but it wasn't clear and it didn't have a triangle inside and there weren't in Italy when it
So
Neo (37:14)
What'd they do with that orb?
Android (37:16)
They sold it on eBay.
Neo (37:18)
They did not. Didn't they really?
Android (37:20)
I have the orb here now with me.
I can't show it to you because it won't come out on camera. Now it won't come out on camera.
Neo (37:27)
And minute I got it, my dog died.
Android (37:29)
Okay, now what's
is that Zanfretta went on a talk show in 2004, his latest 2004, claiming to have photos with him of the
when he went to show it to the host of the show, the pictures were black.
Neo (37:43)
It's right there. You look at me, you see, I see it.
Android (37:45)
You don't see it!
Okay, so I'm gonna go ahead and say...
This is not a mostly true alien story. And the reason why I'm saying this is because the guy's story changed. And also the 50 witnesses that you spoke of earlier that said they saw, those people also came back. Some of them came back saying, making the story even more elaborate than what it was.
Neo (37:54)
Yeah, that, yeah, what?
Mm-hmm.
You think the entire town was in on it? Like they wanted to create tourism?
Android (38:11)
No, they didn't take, the other thing too. Do you know
when you were talking about the Italian, the police coming, right? Do you know that they found a horseshoe shaped footprint?
Neo (38:24)
Where a ship may have landed. Yeah. Right. Right.
Android (38:26)
Where the ship may have landed, yeah. Possibly. But
only one.
So the ship landed on one little pedestal.
I'm gonna say no. I'm gonna say this dude is having a serious mental breakdown. And his friends are just trying to make him feel good about himself and say, yeah, I saw the light, it
Neo (38:43)
So all right. So you're saying this is not a mostly true alien story. Okay. All right. Well done. Good research.
Android (38:45)
No. No.
Neo (38:50)
me weigh in now. I
guy was 26 at the time when this happened.
again, I always like to think of okay, what was his life like?
I don't think you went
Like we don't, I don't think you went
Android (39:02)
tickets to the barbecue in his pocket.
Neo (39:02)
of this.
you know, you always have to like, I always like to look at what were the witnesses saying, right? What are these guys saying? And, and, and they're the ones that either they're in on it or they're, or they're not lying upon like feeling that him, he's hot, he's sweating, you know, pupils are
He's scared. We don't know what kind of security guard he was, you know, and all of you had friends who don't know, you know, what his background is. doesn't sound like he's police, but more security guard kind of guy.
Android (39:31)
Yeah,
Neo (39:32)
he was allowed to carry a gun
first impression was
if you're going to say you were abducted once and this incident
me, it's like,
Okay, that's possibility now, but he 11 more times,
he
anything from it, except attention.
it was a fantastical story with the orbs and the spikes and the drawing of the blood and you know, being the car disappearing
coming back, you know, two hours later, I
I am having a hard time believing that there's a reason for these aliens to come and just fucking bother him 11 effing times.
Android (40:14)
Not just mental
illness, He couldn't have mental illness. That would be crazy.
Neo (40:17)
Yeah, that would be crazy. I just don't from the aliens Why? What am I gaining going to this guy's Zanfretta who is a security guard in a small company in a very small town in
Android (40:21)
people?
Neo (40:29)
What are they gaining by getting extracting blood from him information from him telling him things that we're going to come back? What is it that we're there? Gain?
I don't see the purpose of it. Like I said, that this is a, if that's the, what the aliens are doing, they are, they are the worst managed group of other worldly beings I've ever met in my life.
Android (40:51)
Right, right.
Yeah. Poor communication.
Neo (40:58)
So to that end, I think Xanfretta made it up, maybe was in on it with some of the security buddies, and maybe they thought, hey, this will draw tourism to this town. Maybe this would make for interesting reasons to come here and visit. Maybe? I don't know.
Android (41:09)
Mm-hmm.
many rabbits had to die to get historic?
Neo (41:21)
that's the other thing. Zan Freddie, you don't have to kill rabbits.
Android (41:24)
Electrocute them, not just kill them, electrocute them. It's awful.
Neo (41:29)
Yeah.
I'm saying if I got an orb, first thing I'm gonna do is get, yeah, if I can look what I got.
Android (41:32)
and show it to everybody.
you know, him getting stuck with spikes, they don't talk about the wounds. Now, one thing that I did read in this whole research little thing that I was doing is that they believe, now this could sway you to go back, they believe a lot of the stuff was lost in translation because it was all in Italian.
Neo (41:52)
Who lost it in translation?
Android (41:53)
when we translated it from Italian to English. It was 1978. like...
Neo (41:58)
How off could we be?
Know what mean?
Android (42:01)
I don't know. I'm just saying what they said and what I read.
Neo (42:04)
I never
said the aliens.
Android (42:06)
I never said they would leave us.
It was my cousin George, you're being stupid.
Neo (42:08)
It was just that my-
That's
what I
never
Android (42:15)
I don't understand. I am sad
Neo (42:18)
All right. Yes. I'm going to say this is not a mostly true alien story. I'm sure either Zanfretta had some mental instabilities. Maybe he did suffer some stuff and I feel for the guy. I would have loved for this to been true, but I can't. I don't think this is a mostly true alien story. I will go visit that town
of Tortiglia. That would be great. We should go meet Zanfretta.
Android (42:37)
I love that. We should go. Once we have budget, we should go. Maybe we could interview him.
Yeah, let's get him on the
Neo (42:45)
All right. Well, that's our show today. I think it was a good story. It's fun one. and, great alien news and entertainment. I will see you on the next mostly true alien story.