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to another episode of Mostly True Alien Stories.
Neal Girandola (00:48)
Welcome back to Mostly True Alien Stories. I'm Neal Girandola and this is the show where we take one true report of an alien encounter from history. We lay out the facts. We dive into the drama, then decide whether it's a Mostly True Alien Story or not.
Today's episode is one I've been wanting to do for a while. So the minute I heard about it, it doesn't involve a sighting. It doesn't involve a crash and it doesn't involve lights in the sky or military radar tracks. It actually only involves a transcript. In December of 1999, a Swedish researcher sat down in a private home and conducted a three hour interview with a being who claimed to be a member of a reptilian species.
that has lived on this planet for millions of years, long before humans existed and has been watching us ever since.
It's the Lacerda files.
before we go down that rabbit hole, make sure to hit the subscribe button wherever you are listening to our podcast and follow us on Instagram and Tik TOK at mostly true alien stories.
now it's time to say hello to the team.
Joining me as always is my co-pilot in the UAP of love,
ever skeptical Andrew Triana. Hello, Andrew.
Android (02:02)
Hi Neal!
Neal Girandola (02:03)
our newest member of the MTAS
She's a paranormal investigator, true believer and ready to tee up the tough questions. It's the lovely Emma G we call her lemon. What's up lemon?
Emma G (02:15)
Hey guys!
Neal Girandola (02:16)
Before we get into today's story, need to give you guys, I want to, I want to tell you guys two things that happened in the last two weeks.
So first story is in the news just happened.
at the time of this recording, which is, ⁓ March
a man named major general William Neal McCasland He's a retired us air force, ⁓ guy, 68 years old. He just went missing in Albuquerque, New Mexico on the morning of February 27th and the, ⁓ Burnahleeeo County sheriff's office issued a silver alert.
Android (02:43)
What?
Neal Girandola (02:47)
And as of this recording, the FBI has joined the search. ⁓ there's search and rescue teams or drones, a helicopter, they're all looking for him.
We're looking for this guy. He's in the foothills behind the neighborhood. That's where they're looking. They think he's
he's not been found. And now the reason I'm telling you about this guy, there's a reason I'm getting to this. McCasland is not a random retired officer.
He actually commanded the air force research laboratory at Wright Patterson air force base in
And if you know anything about anything, that facility is, has a lot of history, UFO history.
He was responsible
for managing the Air Force's $2.2 billion science and technology program. And he held a position called Director of Special Programs at the
made him the executive secretary of the Special Access Program Oversight Committee. That is the oversight body with purview over America's most classified and compartmentalized programs. Pretty much all of them is what he oversaw. Now,
One other thing, and Andrew, you're going to like this. His name appeared in the 2016 WikiLeaks dump of John Podesta's emails. Now, for those of you who don't know who John
is, was Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign chairman and former White House chief of staff under President
was himself a known UFO disclosure advocate long before those emails
Tom DeLong,
the Blink 182 guitarist, who at the time
Android (04:10)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Emma G (04:12)
Thank
Neal Girandola (04:13)
was building in 2016 what became to the Stars
That's a civilian led organization that recruited former government and intelligence officials to research and publicly disclose UFO evidence and which later partnered with the US Army on materials research.
had been in contact with McCasland for months.
And in one email to Podesta, DeLong
McCasland calls himself a skeptic, but he's not. So he's referring to
officer that's
and he was in charge of the laboratory at Wright-Patterson where the Roswell wreckage was
And he not only knows what DeLong was trying to achieve,
He was helping him to assemble the advisory team. So this guy's so high up. He's involved in these secret programs.
leaked emails on WikiLeak are saying that he was actually helping DeLong build this group that he knows of the people that should be a part of it. Because as I said, this to the stars Academy was to, it was to research and publicly disclose UFO evidence.
And so here's a guy on the inside who's saying he knows nothing, but he's helping DeLong put the right people in place into this thing. Right? So now this guy that we're talking about is now
now, the second part of this is on February 19th, you probably heard about this one.
Trump, obviously he ordered the Pentagon and other agencies to begin identifying and releasing all the government files related to alien
Android (05:35)
Right, right.
Neal Girandola (05:39)
Disclosure advocates said it could be the most consequential moment in the history of the subject. Well, the next day, the very next day after
a researcher named John Greenwald Jr. discovered his entire archive had been wiped. Why does that
Well, he runs something called the Black Vault. And for nearly 30 years, he has filed over 11,000 Freedom of Information Act requests, the FOIA
the CIA, the FBI, the Pentagon agencies across the government.
Emma G (06:02)
Okay.
Neal Girandola (06:05)
And he compiled the responses into the largest public archive of declassified UFO documents in existence. 3.8 million files, CIA projects, military reports, documents dating back to the 1940s. And they were just gone overnight. were just gone.
said that the hosting provider actually confirmed it was a deletion and not a hardware failure.
There ⁓ was no file corruption and it wasn't an accident. So someone had logged into the
This is what they discovered. Changed the directory permissions and file ownership logs and removed everything.
And now Greenwald himself called the timing
strangely
He did not rule out
Emma G (06:50)
Mm.
Neal Girandola (06:52)
he had backups. So the archive was restored.
pretty quickly, but the question of who did it and why they chose that specific night hasn't been answered. So Andrew, I'm going to ask you. So two weeks ago on the same cycle, the man Tom DeLong described as the insider who knew exactly what happened at Wright's Patterson goes missing in the desert. And the night the president announces he's going to open the file, someone deletes the largest public UFO document archive in the
Mostly true or not?
Are they related or just coincidence?
Android (07:22)
I think it's
no, it's, it's all related, dude. It's all related. It has to be. And, the fact that, you know, why aren't we hearing about the Colonel on the news?
is that not mainstream news? Why is it not? This guy's a high up. He's, he's high up. Right. But yet we hear about Nancy Guthrie, right? Savannah Guthrie's mom, my God, they brought the whole FBI in for her. And so this guy is just like another statistic of a missing person that just happens.
Neal Girandola (07:33)
It is not national news at all. This guy's a big high up.
Emma G (07:36)
Yeah, that's crazy.
Neal Girandola (07:43)
Sure. Yeah.
Android (07:50)
And now they're looking for him behind his woods. They're probably going to find him in the woods. He probably shot himself or, you know, off himself or whatever.
Emma G (07:51)
Ugh.
Neal Girandola (07:59)
whispers that they're putting out there in the press that he had Alzheimer's or he had something or, you know, something going on with his mind. Yeah.
Android (08:04)
Right. So he's, yeah, he wandered out and coyotes got him, right? Coyotes ate him.
Emma G (08:08)
Ugh...
Android (08:09)
he didn't
have enough Alzheimer's to not be able to help the other guy get the committee
Neal Girandola (08:14)
started putting that committee together in 2016. So he just retired not too long ago. He is
but you're right. It should be national news. And then the fact that those, and then how does this guy's archive files,
Android (08:22)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (08:25)
walls, stuff
Android (08:27)
Deleted?
Neal Girandola (08:28)
You could say it's coincidence, but it's just too. It's it's not. It just it's just happens right after that. Trump says he's going to release
Android (08:34)
No, it's not. It's not.
Neal Girandola (08:37)
wonder if we can view those files, by the way.
Android (08:40)
Is Dodie's name in there somewhere?
Neal Girandola (08:42)
Maybe.
Android (08:43)
know the stuff that he did. We know that he's responsible for going in and changing computers in people's houses. We know all this stuff. This guy's a bad, these people, they're awful people. They're awful, awful people. So they're gonna paint this up that this guy, yeah, he had Alzheimer's, dude. He went wandering. Yeah.
Emma G (08:43)
⁓
Neal Girandola (08:49)
Yeah. Yeah.
Emma G (08:54)
Ugh.
Neal Girandola (09:00)
Well, I hope they find him. do hope they find him
and I hope I hope it is just a thing that we wanted off or maybe he was just like, I got to get the fuck out of here. I just want to go and he's off and out. But I think if anybody knows how to disappear, it might be this guy. You know, it might be this guy.
Android (09:10)
Well, he's-
⁓
maybe he disappeared
Emma G (09:16)
I think that ideally that'd be nice. He's alive, he's well, he made his own choice. That would be nice.
Neal Girandola (09:21)
Yeah, I hope by the time this airs that they have found him. But Emma, as a ghost hunter or in a paranormal investigator, when you hear something like this, what's your, what's your take? Does this mean anything to you?
Android (09:21)
Well, he-he-he-
Emma G (09:31)
It's
insane to me anytime information goes missing conveniently. I'm like, all right, that's insane to me. And it's not a coincidence. It's also embarrassing to me that they recovered the information so quick. Imagine being that person that deleted it, like went through all that trouble to delete it. And then they're like, wait, we had a backup.
Neal Girandola (09:39)
Yeah.
Android (09:50)
No, they could
Neal Girandola (09:51)
Yeah, yeah, backup.
Yeah.
Android (09:54)
deleted some of the stuff out of it and then uploaded it back again.
other files could have been taken out, like the important things could have been taken out. Maybe that's why they did it.
Emma G (10:02)
good point.
Android (10:02)
maybe
he's been abducted.
Neal Girandola (10:04)
had a beef with an alien while he was overseeing that stuff and a dude's like, you know when I get out of here I'm gonna abduct you you're gonna get
Android (10:04)
cool.
Neal Girandola (10:11)
and
Emma G (10:10)
Or the aliens
were like, if anything goes bad, we're gonna take you out. Don't worry, we're gonna extract you. It's all good, we're friends.
Android (10:16)
⁓
Neal Girandola (10:17)
⁓ yeah, maybe they took him to their planet.
Android (10:17)
well, we've heard that before in stories too. Yeah. So maybe.
Neal Girandola (10:21)
That would be something to see. But you know what? Here's why I'm telling you both these stories. It really relates back to what we're going to talk about today, the
the
are built on exactly kind of this pattern. A man sits down with someone who claims to know what's really happening. The evidence disappears.
The source can't be verified and all that remains is a transcript passed from hand to hand and that no one can prove and no one can quite
a reminder
to our listeners how the show works. I read a report of a true encounter, a true alien encounter. Then we're going to dive into the details, the layout, facts, and then decide
this is a mostly true alien story or not.
Okay, this document, the document is called the Lacerda files. It consists of two transcripts, two.
One from a December 16th, 1999 interview and a follow-up interview from April 2000, and both took place in private residences in
The interviewer is identified only as Olkay. I think that's how we pronounce it, right, Andrew? Olkay. You think it's Olaykay? We'll go with, let's go with Olaykay. It's more fun. Yeah. All right.
Android (11:30)
Oli, Oli, or Oli K.
Emma G (11:34)
All sounds better.
Android (11:36)
Olkay
or Olik? I like Olikay.
Emma G (11:38)
OLL.
Neal Girandola (11:39)
All okay? I'm all okay!
Emma G (11:39)
OLL-y-k too much. OLL-y, ROLL-y, POL-y.
Android (11:40)
all.
Neal Girandola (11:46)
we
put the turkin in the urban then we took it out and put it in
Emma G (11:49)
Yeah
Neal Girandola (11:50)
holy K. That's how what he sounds like everyone for our listeners That's what he sounds like when I mentioned his
he is a Swedish researcher who describes himself as a lifelong
and he was brought to this meeting of ⁓ Lacerda by a friend
referred to he refers to his friend only as
EF
think he's I think he's two first names kind of guys like Edward Frederick
Emma G (12:12)
Hehehe!
Android (12:13)
Eat it, eat it, eat it.
Neal Girandola (12:15)
And he turned into
⁓
Android (12:19)
it's
good to be here to interview you.
Neal Girandola (12:23)
Yeah. Yeah, well, I promise that won't be the last time we try it, Emma. All right.
Emma G (12:24)
Let's leave the Swedish alone.
Android (12:29)
get ready.
Neal Girandola (12:32)
yes, because we're going to attempt this probably 17 more times.
Android (12:30)
We should apologize to the audience now, right?
Neal Girandola (12:36)
right. So anyway, so Ornike is brought to
meeting by a friend referred to only as EF, Edward Frederick, I'm going call him, who had already been in contact with the beam for several months. So I don't know how EF-
came in contact with this bean for several months, but he
would be nice to know what EF did, right? So why did this bean go to EF? That's question. We can get into that. Maybe Andrew has that, maybe doesn't. We'll find out. All right, so the bean identifies herself as a woman, as Lacerta. She says that's the closest human pronunciation to her actual name. And in Latin, Lacerta means lizard.
She describes herself as female, hot, partially humanoid. She didn't say hot. I added that. I always like to make that. She's definitely hot. Definitely hot. For this guy to travel all the way out there to interview
Emma G (13:19)
⁓
Android (13:20)
She's gotta be hot dude, she's gotta be hot.
Emma G (13:22)
It's like, wow.
Android (13:24)
Definitely.
Neal Girandola (13:27)
his friend EF probably said, she's hot, dude. I mean, if anything, you get this. She's maybe not an alien, but she's hot.
Emma G (13:34)
There's definitely no other reason other than her being hot.
Android (13:35)
Heard heard heard it! Heard so hard to-
Neal Girandola (13:36)
You did that right. She's in the lizards, bro.
All right. She describes herself as female. She's partially humanoid in appearance.
got hair, lips, largely bipedal, largely bipedal. I don't know why in that report they said specifically largely bipedal. ⁓ But she also has pale green skin. So she's a hot pale screen, largely bipedal.
Lizard alien chick.
Emma G (14:02)
Do
you think they meant primarily
Android (14:02)
means that she walks. No, because
no because she walks
That's why she's bipedal. No, no, no, that's nothing. It's
Emma G (14:07)
just has big feet.
Neal Girandola (14:07)
Yeah. Yeah. We may get in.
Android (14:10)
means that you walk on to
Neal Girandola (14:11)
Yeah,
Android (14:11)
two legs.
Neal Girandola (14:12)
right.
Emma G (14:12)
I'm focusing on the largely part,
Neal Girandola (14:14)
right, but she also
vertical slit pupils and pale green skin and a dorsal ridge along her back.
Android (14:22)
Hmm. Means a fin, like a fin. Like on the back of a chameleon, have that little, or dinosaurs have that as well.
Emma G (14:22)
What does that mean? Dorsal ridge.
Neal Girandola (14:24)
She is a fin. Like a fin.
Emma G (14:27)
⁓
Gotcha. Right.
Neal Girandola (14:30)
You know,
Emma G (14:32)
it.
Neal Girandola (14:32)
imagining if you imagine the spine like her spines probably slightly up and out. Yeah, more
Android (14:37)
out more out yeah
Emma G (14:39)
Cut,
Neal Girandola (14:39)
All right. So all the K was not permitted to photograph her. Funnily enough, the audio recordings he made, they disappeared. They no longer exist. He did. He did record this. What exists is a 49 page transcript. It's summarized from the original and
translated from Swedish into German and then translated into English. So there's probably a lot of lost in translation things happening with this whole ⁓ transcript.
Emma G (15:08)
Wait, I have a question. How do we know that there was a recording if we only have the transcript? Like, how do we know the recording was deleted, that there was one ever to be?
Neal Girandola (15:16)
Because he's
they've always said it from the get-go so in the report only Kay said that he recorded
I will Yeah, I don't know if Andrew knows what happened to the recordings, but I don't
Emma G (15:22)
Okay, so just his claim. Okay.
Android (15:26)
No, nobody,
nobody knows what happens to recording. I can go ahead and tell you that nobody knows what happens to recording, but I can tell you why she wasn't allowed to be. She wasn't allowed to be photographed.
Emma G (15:35)
⁓ okay, cool. Interesting.
Neal Girandola (15:35)
Oh, Oh, well,
Android (15:37)
Because
shh, we'll get into that. We'll get into that. Yeah, we'll get into that. I'll tell you why. And then I forget. Then all the comments are like, he's an idiot. He didn't even tell us why. What an idiot.
Neal Girandola (15:38)
you want to, you want me to finish my report and then we'll get into that standby listeners. We're going to get to that. Stay tuned. All right. Yeah. He didn't ever told us. I listened to this whole stupid podcast waiting for him to tell us.
Emma G (15:44)
and
Android (15:54)
look at that, it's a hoodahoo!
Emma G (15:57)
you
Neal Girandola (15:58)
right, here's here's what the document actually claims. So this is after the translation translation, right? From Swedish to German then into English. And here's what the document actually claims. She told
Lacerda says her species she calls them. Saurians are not extraterrestrials. They evolved actually here on earth.
and they predate humans by millions of years descended from a branch of dinosaur that survived a catastrophic event 65 million years ago. And according to CERTA, that event wasn't natural. It was the aftermath of a war between two extraterrestrial factions
were fighting over Earth's copper deposits. The collateral damage from that conflict is what ended the dinosaurs.
Now her species survived by going underground where they have lived ever since in cities with
technology, largely undetected. Man, what did they want the copper for? That's crazy.
Emma G (16:58)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (16:59)
you
Is that another thing? Yeah, my listeners. All right. Lacerda's position on humans is that humans did not evolve naturally. Hello.
Android (17:00)
I'll tell you. I'll tell you.
Neal Girandola (17:11)
She says a third extraterrestrial species. She calls them
Elohim, which is a word some researchers connect to the Hebrew
spelled differently. So this one's spelled L-L-O-J-I-M in the translation, and they're referring that it connects to the Hebrew Elohim, which is
Android (17:29)
Which means
Neal Girandola (17:31)
arrived in genetically accelerated human.
Android (17:32)
Elohim Elohim
Adonai
Neal Girandola (17:34)
development. Yes,
it means God. that's interesting, interesting. So two to three million years, she says is not enough time for natural selection to produce what we are. The Elohim intervened, and humans are in her framing an engineered species on a planet that was never originally ours.
Emma G (17:45)
Huh?
Neal Girandola (17:54)
I love this.
Emma G (17:54)
interesting.
Neal Girandola (17:55)
Absolutely love this.
Emma G (17:55)
is it not originally
ours if we just, started here anyway, even if we were, yeah, but even if we were engineered. Yeah, but like,
Android (17:57)
No. But we didn't start here. Other life was here before. Other life was here before.
Neal Girandola (18:01)
Was she?
That's what she's
Emma G (18:06)
okay, well.
Android (18:06)
well, they've
tracked it back. mean, humans have not been in existence for 95 million years. So let's get that straight. Dinosaurs were here then. So, I'm gonna be mean, because I got scientific fact, brah. We're talking.
Emma G (18:12)
yeah, but I just mean we weren't anywhere else first. No, but I think he's taking
Neal Girandola (18:14)
You know, why you gotta be so mean to Emma?
Emma G (18:19)
my question wrong. I'm just saying we weren't anywhere else. Even if we were engineered here first, this is our only home. This is where we've been the whole time. That's my point. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so she's like, she's like, hey.
Android (18:32)
Right. Okay. That's where you're going with it. Okay. Okay. Yeah. That's a stupidest point.
Neal Girandola (18:35)
That's where you're going. That's the dumb point. That's a dumb point. Emma. That's like the
point ever. Whatever. Now I got to start over.
Android (18:43)
We were here
guys, we were here.
Emma G (18:45)
They're bullying me.
Neal Girandola (18:46)
anyway
she gets into why the ancient cultures worshiped reptile gods
those ancient cultures, the mythology that we've always believed in. She says they weren't mythologizing
the serpent deities in Egyptian religion, the feathered serpents of the Inca, the dragon figures across the Asian and European traditions, Lacerda's claim is that these are cultural memories of actual contact with her
Emma G (19:11)
Mmm.
Neal Girandola (19:12)
Ancient humans encountered Saurians.
didn't have a framework for what they were seeing. So they didn't understand it and they built a religion around it. Very interesting. I mean, that's crazy, crazy stuff. But so far like this report and the claims that we're
Android (19:23)
Mm-hmm.
Emma G (19:23)
Thank
you.
Neal Girandola (19:29)
really ties in. Now this all came out in 1999,
it's very relevant.
is what I'm trying to say and and the the explanations of this are very plausible. Okay, so on UFOs, Lacerda breaks ⁓ reported sightings into three
Emma G (19:33)
and
Neal Girandola (19:44)
natural plasma phenomena that humans misidentify as
Second, human built vehicles using reverse engineered non human technology. She specifically says that
The triangle shaped craft reported in modern cases fall into this category that they're human built. Those triangle ships are human built. Third, in the actual non-human craft, including story and vessels,
which she describes as cylindrical with red lighting. Those are theirs. So the three crafts, let me rephrase that.
There's the natural plasma phenomenon that humans misidentify as craft. They're not craft is what she's saying. And the human built vehicles using a reverse engineered non-human technology. She specifically says that the triangle, like the triangle shape crap there, they're, they're not reverse engineered. They're just human
is what she's saying.
Android (20:39)
Like a South Bomber,
South Bomber is a triangle. The lights.
Neal Girandola (20:42)
Right. So, but we're claiming
that these ships are, ⁓ alien technology, but she's saying they're not.
Android (20:46)
UFOs. Right, right,
like the ship over Phoenix, lights over Phoenix was a big triangle thing. That was our
Emma G (20:48)
interesting.
Neal Girandola (20:53)
speculating that we have any technology, we've reverse engineered that, but she's saying, no, that's not
right, and then there's the ⁓ non-human craft, she's saying, are only the Saurian vessels, which she described as cylindrical with red lighting. Those are non-human. Those things that you do see are that.
on Roswell specifically, she says there was a crash and the occupants were not her species.
They, excuse me, they were a separate group. She describes as small gray beans, which we call grays operating independently on earth with their own agenda. So not even related to what she ⁓ is.
on.
Android (21:34)
they're here too.
Neal Girandola (21:35)
They're here too and that crash did happen in Roswell is what she's saying.
Android (21:39)
Okay. Okay.
Emma G (21:39)
Mm-hmm.
Neal Girandola (21:40)
Okay. Okay. On the, ⁓ this document that we're I'm reading from the transcript was compiled, as we said, by Oli K. From the original recordings and his notes, it was passed to a German contact who forwarded to a guy by the name of Christian Filer, editor of a German UFO webzine. And he translated it into English in 2001 and a partial version appeared on the Russian site Pravda in July, 2002.
Android (22:02)
To English,
Neal Girandola (22:10)
And the full English text wasn't publicly available until December 2004.
K has never come forward publicly. We don't even know if that's really his name or who he is. The original Swedish document has never been produced. And Christian Feiler, the man who translated it, he said that ⁓ in his own newsletter at the time that this is all a hoax.
But despite all that, the document was has never gone away. So this has been.
Emma G (22:33)
What?
Neal Girandola (22:38)
talked about for a while. fact, the Y files covered it just last year in
Ramsey's area 52 did a two part episode on it in early 2025 as well. And it gets revisited every few years and we're revisiting it because we love this
That's the report as I have it.
I'm now going to hand it over to Andrew and Lemon and we're going to start. Here's some other details that I hope Andrew can fill in and Lemon and then we're going to ask the hard questions and then decide whether this is a mostly true alien story or not. All right, Andrew, what do you got?
Android (23:14)
All right, so let's talk about her. ⁓ I think we need to address the fact that she's reptilian, right? And that she evolved from dinosaur species. So ⁓ there is a, 1982, a paleontologist by the name of Dale Russell ⁓ proposed that if the Trudons, which were a dinosaur and later on, that were similar to like, people would recognize them looking like a velociraptor, right? They were more upright. They were
Neal Girandola (23:24)
Yeah.
Android (23:43)
more using their hands
if.
Neal Girandola (23:45)
Wait, wait,
with the paleontologist name again?
Android (23:48)
Dale Russell.
Neal Girandola (23:49)
he commenting specifically about
and then saying what
Android (23:52)
No, no, no. I'm
just talking about how they could have evolved in general. When she's speaking that they evolved from dinosaurs, I'm going to give you the theory so that we can understand behind that why it's possible. Why it's possible. Okay, so this is possible. Okay, so he created a model called the dinosauroid. Okay, so it's dinosauroid. Not a cool name. of, nah.
Neal Girandola (23:55)
in general.
Okay.
behind that, why that would happen. I love that. Love that. Love that. Love that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Nice. Yeah. It's clunky.
It's clunky. Wait, what other name would we use? What else will we use? So he's he's going off a humanoid. He wants to go. He's going off a humanoid. He's probably doing that as a dinosaur chick. Dinosauroid.
Emma G (24:20)
Hemroid, Dinosaurroid.
Android (24:20)
You need to get a better name than that, right? dinosaur dude, dinosaur dude, dinosaur chick.
Emma G (24:31)
No,
Neal Girandola (24:34)
If you say it differently, if you say like you say humanoid, then say
Emma G (24:34)
that's not.
Neal Girandola (24:38)
Dinosauroid. Yeah.
Android (24:38)
Dinosauroid, dinosauroid. You know what? I've
Emma G (24:38)
I'm destroyed.
Android (24:41)
got some dinosauroids and there's a special ointment for it.
Neal Girandola (24:44)
I got treated,
you got treated for that. you're good. You're all right.
Android (24:47)
But remember
this medication can cause stomach bleeding.
Emma G (24:50)
⁓
Neal Girandola (24:51)
If taking dinosaur roads. Yeah. All right. So, so I, okay. That's great. Dinosaur roads.
Emma G (24:52)
You might get your spine might pop out of your back.
Android (24:55)
Right. Okay. So. All right.
So now remember, this is all hypothetical, right? This is just his theory. This is his experiment that he did. This is to show that outweigh possible. It's completely possible because remember they had 95 million years to
Neal Girandola (25:02)
Yeah, we need this. We need this journey to understand why we right. Yes.
Android (25:13)
So she could be talking about the history of themselves when we see the Quasar Quadal in Aztec, we see dragons in China. know dragons in London, right?
Neal Girandola (25:23)
Wait, did you say
Quasico-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co
Android (25:25)
Quasar
Coahuatl is the serpent, the flying serpent in Mexico.
Neal Girandola (25:28)
Oh, I didn't even know that.
Emma G (25:30)
He dropped that so casually. I've never heard that in my life. Yeah, I like that name though. I like it
Neal Girandola (25:32)
I know, it's like we all know. Oh, you know, a quiz of coattails. Mm-hmm.
Android (25:36)
You know what I love? I
love kwayza kawata with a smear of cream cheese on it. So delicious. My favorite. Some fresh capers and
Neal Girandola (25:39)
You
Yeah. That's never not funny. That's never not funny.
Emma G (25:44)
From
here. ⁓
Android (25:49)
Okay, so
here's the thing he said hypothetically the creature would be upright posture,
A larger brain which would make them smarter, smarter because we knew the dinosaurs had like little tiny brains and apparently they weren't very
Emma G (26:00)
Yeah.
Android (26:01)
Grasping.
Neal Girandola (26:01)
wait, I feel like
we skipped the evolution of it though. He's just saying no.
Emma G (26:04)
No, we're starting at the
beginning. He's at the first guy.
Android (26:06)
We're starting at the beginning so this this
is he's just remember this is just hypothetical so if they would have evolved if if dinosaurs evolved into this humanoid bipedal
Neal Girandola (26:13)
That's what,
he's saying this is what they would have looked like. Got it. Got it. Okay. Final version.
Android (26:20)
Yes. Right. ⁓ they would
Emma G (26:20)
The first version. Yeah.
Android (26:24)
write grasping hands, binocular vision. So that's why her eyes are still reptilian. They still have slits in them, but she would be upright and they would start getting human characteristics as they evolve. Okay. So that's why Lacerta, she looks like she does because she did evolve from dinosaurs. It's possible.
Emma G (26:24)
No fur.
Neal Girandola (26:31)
Okay.
Emma G (26:36)
Mm.
Neal Girandola (26:43)
Does he say specifically
though, he, there any way that he's led to, that you could ascertain from his theory that, how do I articulate this? Getting to be a lizard like her, which dinosaur she may have evolved from, because it wouldn't be.
Android (27:05)
Well, they're saying that
they all, he's saying that they would have evolved from the true dots. That's what he's saying. The true dots.
Neal Girandola (27:10)
You don't.
Which ones are the Trudons?
Android (27:14)
Trudon is like, think of a velociraptor. All right? But then the dinosaurs evolved more after velociraptor to where they were more upright looking. They were, you know, I mean, granted T-Rex was upright. You know, we know that it didn't, wasn't, it wasn't walking on four legs. It walked on two legs, but then they got smaller and smaller and smaller and more hand grip. I mean, think about T-Rex has got those short little arms. He really couldn't grab very much, right? But as the velociraptors came,
Neal Girandola (27:17)
Okay. Yeah.
Emma G (27:23)
Mm.
Neal Girandola (27:29)
Yeah.
Emma G (27:40)
Mm.
Neal Girandola (27:40)
He was like, I'm gonna
hand me my
No. ⁓ yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What was the purple dinosaur?
Android (27:43)
I can't even ⁓ it's building on myself again. I ruined my tuxedo. Right.
Neal Girandola (27:50)
Barney, you know why his hands, you know why his hands are so short? So he can't touch the
Android (27:50)
I love you. You love me.
Emma G (27:51)
Yes
Neal Girandola (27:56)
⁓ that's awful. You're awful. They talk about getting freaked out by puppets. That thing.
Emma G (27:55)
⁓ whoa. Terrible.
Yeah, Barney sucks.
Android (28:04)
He's a furry! He's
a furry! He's a guy in a suit!
Neal Girandola (28:07)
⁓
yeah, I know. But still freaked me
Emma G (28:09)
Not better.
Neal Girandola (28:11)
Wait, can I don't so forgive me for being dumb about science. when something evolves like from apes to humans was is there mating that goes on that gets you to the evolution of that? Or does evolving just evolve? It's not through it's not through mating.
Android (28:11)
Hi Neal, I love you!
I don't know the science behind it.
It just evolves. mean, just like the little.
I think it's just
through change and time and now I just think we evolve.
Emma G (28:35)
evolution also comes with the idea of like necessity. Like what do we need in order to survive? So certain things start evolving out, which makes me really think about the dinosaurs. What was becoming easier for them in terms of survival? So they didn't need, or they did need, so they did need longer arms now. So their arms are now extending, or now they're becoming smaller, more human sized. What was, what was going on?
Neal Girandola (28:57)
Yeah.
that evolution, if you think about it, and I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but I just love this part of this explanation. I know I'm beating a dead
don't want to beat a dead horse, but let's keep talking about it. ⁓ Yeah. To evolve from a ⁓ T-Rex down to a talking lizard that lived underground, you know, ⁓
Android (29:10)
Let's kill it. I think it's
Emma G (29:13)
You
Neal Girandola (29:25)
to me is I just can't figure out how that could happen.
Android (29:28)
they went underground remember they were
smart enough they went underground because the war was happening between two extraterrestrial beings right the war was happening for
Neal Girandola (29:33)
Yeah. But they had, must have evolved.
Emma G (29:35)
Hey.
Neal Girandola (29:36)
They must've been evolved already by that, by the time the war happens. So look. Yeah. Okay. All right. No more. I'm not going to, the horse is dead.
Android (29:39)
Probably. They had millions of years to evolve. Okay. Don't be...
Emma G (29:45)
Maybe they
started mating like larger animals and smaller animals started mating and then you're just getting, know, there's a medium, a middle ground.
Neal Girandola (29:53)
I mean, if you looked it up,
the rules on that lemon, that we would know about the evolution aisle, actually, maybe there'd be more saying, but again, the horse is dead. I beat it. We're moving on. Okay. All right. Going on.
Emma G (30:01)
sorry, you're right.
Android (30:03)
Okay.
So, to according to Lucerta, right, here's an explanation for the copper war that was happening.
Neal Girandola (30:12)
Wait, are you
getting mad at us because we're asking so many
Android (30:15)
No,
Neal Girandola (30:15)
seem like you got a little attitude right there.
Android (30:15)
no,
no, no. was just, I'm just, I kind of zoned you guys out there for a second. I was just like.
Neal Girandola (30:20)
Did you eat? Did you have breakfast? Did you have something?
Yeah. Is your blood sugar going down? God, we lost him. We lost him. He didn't eat. Yeah.
Emma G (30:30)
What are the rules of evolution? One,
variation exists in every population, genetic mutation, recombination of genes during reproduction, sexual reproduction, mixing parental genes,
like that. Okay, so you're right.
Neal Girandola (30:41)
That's what I was thinking,
that maybe there was some sort of, you know, lot of mating going on to get to the talking lizard with a brain who decides to live underground during the war.
Android (30:47)
Right.
Emma G (30:47)
Yeah.
Android (30:50)
Mom,
don't want to go over there and talk to
Emma G (30:51)
Yeah.
Android (30:54)
Go on. Ugh.
Neal Girandola (30:54)
Somebody's gotta
Emma G (30:54)
Shoop.
Neal Girandola (30:56)
dance with the lizard lady.
Android (30:59)
I don't find her
Neal Girandola (30:59)
Make her
feel
Android (30:59)
attractive.
Hi, lizard lady.
Neal Girandola (31:02)
It's Lacerta.
Android (31:05)
Hi, Lacerta.
Neal Girandola (31:07)
Hi, thanks. Do you want to dance with me? ⁓ Poor Lacerda. All right Yeah, yeah, all right Andrew do you need to eat a candy bar or Snickers bar or anything you good? Are we losing you?
Emma G (31:08)
What's your name?
Android (31:08)
Okay. No, I don't. You're dead. Meteor crushes you. I throw you, I pull you up above the ground and let the aliens kill you. Lacerda. Okay. So.
Neal Girandola (31:27)
right, cuz there's gonna be more
Android (31:25)
I'm good. I'm fine. Let's go.
Neal Girandola (31:29)
right, just get ready. All right, buckle buckle in Andrew
Android (31:28)
I know. I know. I'm going to get ready.
Okay. So according to Lacerda, there was a war over copper, right? Now, why copper? Right? Because copper is used in everything, electromagnetic devices. It's used in advanced machinery. It's used as an energy system. So the fact that it would be required
Neal Girandola (31:39)
have the copper thing. Crazy. Yeah, why?
Okay.
Android (31:55)
for electricity, copper is needed for electricity. So if she has cities down below, they're gonna be hiding the copper, right, from everybody so that they can keep their city
Neal Girandola (31:58)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Android (32:05)
okay? ⁓
Neal Girandola (32:05)
So they had advanced
Emma G (32:05)
Mmm.
Neal Girandola (32:06)
technology then and they were knew how to use it and harness it if this is true. And the having copper is a major energy source. It's just like having fighting for oil these days.
Android (32:10)
Yeah, so also.
Right, copper is also associated with air circulation systems and climate control, electromagnetic shielding.
Neal Girandola (32:22)
Uhhhh...
Mmm.
Emma G (32:27)
Interesting.
Android (32:27)
So
force fields around your spaceship or maybe needing for your hyperdrive,
Emma G (32:31)
home.
Neal Girandola (32:33)
lizards are
But who was the war over? Who was the war with?
Android (32:38)
They were coming to steal copper from the earth.
Neal Girandola (32:41)
So must have been from other planets. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Emma G (32:41)
Yeah, but between who? Okay.
Android (32:43)
She never said she didn't say she didn't know I guess because they were hiding underground.
Emma G (32:47)
Mm-hmm.
Android (32:48)
she claims that there was an ancient war right between the non-human species on Earth to control copper deposits. That's what it was all about competition for underground territory and competition for mineral resources.
Neal Girandola (32:56)
Mm.
Android (33:00)
She never gave concrete details of who the enemies were like you just asked. Okay. When the war was going on, we don't know who they were. didn't. I don't maybe she didn't know.
Neal Girandola (33:00)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Right.
Android (33:09)
That's what I'm guessing.
Neal Girandola (33:09)
Right. But so, so the whole idea of whether it's real or not, the whole idea of this war over copper totally makes sense. I now, you know, completely get it. And there there's that far advanced that other species were coming to fight them for the copper. So, okay.
Android (33:25)
Right so
we associate copper with electrical wiring right motors electronics in general energy grids we use copper for a lot we even use copper for pipes in our house to move water around so copper is copper's needed.
Neal Girandola (33:33)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Where do they
get copper today? Where's copper? Where's the most populated area in the world with copper?
Android (33:45)
I don't know.
Neal Girandola (33:46)
Lemon, you want to look that up? You want to look that? Lemon? You're like the researcher that has to be told to research. Research.
Android (33:46)
Let him look that up.
Emma G (33:46)
Do you- ⁓
you're right, sorry. Where is-
Yeah, my bad.
Android (33:54)
So it
is considered the biggest or the largest conductive metal copper is.
It's used in everything. It's used in everything.
Neal Girandola (34:00)
right. And it's very, and it's very pricey
too. Very valuable. Usually that's the ⁓ one thing in construction that goes way up.
Emma G (34:07)
⁓ Lake
Superior in North America has a lot. It's the most native, sorry, most famous native copper region is Lake Superior in North America.
Neal Girandola (34:18)
so does she say what the area of the world they they were in at the time? No, we didn't find it.
Android (34:24)
She never gave details like
Emma G (34:24)
It also says
Android (34:25)
that.
Emma G (34:25)
Chile, Peru, United States,
Democratic Republic of Congo, Zambia, China, Australia.
Android (34:32)
Okay, so then she later on in the report, she talks about ⁓ being part of the human evolution. They helped evolve humans,
So, you know, modern science, have, we have pretty much distinctive ⁓ facts about our human evolution, right? We have fossil evidence, have
we have comparative analogy, we have archeology, we can be like, ⁓ we found this mole.
Neal Girandola (34:51)
Yeah.
Android (34:57)
buried underneath, it's five billion years old. This bowl was used by the Holy Kay. Eater, boater, boorly, boorly, boorly, boorly, boorly, boorly, boorly, boorly, boorly, boorly, boorly,
Neal Girandola (35:01)
Right, Okay.
Emma G (35:03)
you
Android (35:10)
boorly, boorly, boorly,
Neal Girandola (35:16)
But I thought she said, but I thought she said that they didn't, obviously we didn't evolve naturally, but she says that a third, but a third extraterrestrial species
Android (35:23)
She helped us. Right.
Neal Girandola (35:27)
right, look how mad he gets when I jump, jump in in front of him. But you know, it's for my listeners. I'm helping my listeners.
Android (35:30)
No, she.
Right. No, she, I'm, I'm,
had a big hand in our evolution, according to what Lacerda said.
Neal Girandola (35:38)
Okay, because I thought the Elohim was the God, was the one that came down and kind of helped us. Right, but I think that's what they're referring, she's referring to in a sense. think it was called that, probably, know, spelling change.
Android (35:45)
Elohim is God. It's not the God. It is God.
Neal Girandola (35:54)
that as the third species that helped them to evolve was she, but you're saying they had a hand in it as well, Lacerta?
Android (35:58)
Right. Right. She said
that she's yes. Oh yeah. She said that they did. She said that they did. So they've been around. Remember, Lacerda said that they've been around for 95 million years. 95 million years.
Emma G (36:03)
Mm.
Neal Girandola (36:03)
Okay. Okay.
That's crazy.
Emma G (36:10)
Wow.
Neal Girandola (36:11)
That's almost as old as the
The famous boogasphere is older than that.
Android (36:15)
Please no. No.
The famous boogasphere is, yeah,
Neal Girandola (36:19)
Yeah.
Android (36:20)
it's a hundred million years. She made it. They made it.
Neal Girandola (36:20)
I wonder if she knew about it. Yeah. I wonder if they built it. Yeah.
No, no. Cause it was around before them.
Emma G (36:23)
she made.
Android (36:25)
⁓ Possibly.
Neal Girandola (36:26)
The
dropped her off there.
Android (36:31)
It was a date gone
It was a bad date.
Neal Girandola (36:32)
You know about the Boogasphere,
right? Lem, do you know about
It's a...
Emma G (36:35)
I've heard of it from you.
Neal Girandola (36:36)
It was a sphere that was discovered just last year.
It was flying in the air and two dudes who just happened to be walking in the woods found it. They videotaped it flying and then they videotaped it on the ground and
They carbon dated it and it's older than the
what they're saying. But no one's
Emma G (36:53)
Wow.
Android (36:55)
Greer did.
Neal Girandola (36:56)
Greer did
Android (36:57)
talk about our ancestors, right? So we have ⁓ Homo habilis, right? Was an early tool user.
Neal Girandola (37:02)
Hmm. Would you call me?
Emma G (37:04)
Hahaha
Android (37:05)
Homo habilis, Homo habilis, early tool user, 2.4 to 1.4 million years ago.
Neal Girandola (37:07)
Okay.
Early tool user they call it. That's
Emma G (37:14)
Mmm.
Android (37:14)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (37:14)
wonder what tool was the early tool that they were using, like a hammer and a chisel?
Android (37:18)
know it was like something to pry with. It was like a prying tool. It wasn't a big
Emma G (37:21)
⁓
Neal Girandola (37:23)
For real?
Android (37:23)
For real, yeah.
Emma G (37:24)
Hey,
I love how he knew it. He's like, yep, nope, got it.
Neal Girandola (37:26)
the prying tool?
Android (37:26)
Like chisels. Yeah. They would
use a chisel and a rock.
Neal Girandola (37:30)
They consider that a- they consider
that a tool? pri- cause you can pry things? I wonder like how much prying they had to do back then that that was the first tool that they started
You know what mean? We need something! I don't know what we call
Android (37:39)
You know what? I'm just,
Neal Girandola (37:42)
I need something to see this! I need to- p-p-p-p-pry it! Pry! I need a prying tool.
Android (37:42)
I'm going to go here. I'm going, uh, I'm going to go.
Emma G (37:45)
He's like, I'm done. We're stuck at the pry. We're stuck at the pry.
Android (37:49)
I mean, I'm going to go with,
right now you're the earliest tool that I.
Neal Girandola (37:53)
Fair enough. Fair enough. Yup. Yup.
Emma G (37:58)
you
Android (37:59)
Alright, then Homo erectus,
that was species was across Africa and
Homo neanderthals, okay, we'll just make it that. They were close human relatives. They were found in
Neal Girandola (38:11)
Yeah, yeah, gotcha.
Android (38:15)
And all these are going from 1.4 to 2.4 million years ago, all the way down to the Homo sapiens, is modern humans, which is 300,000 years
If she has been around for 95 million years, it wouldn't have been, we make humans right away. It would have been an evolution of humans, right? Okay. So genetic evidence shows that humans share
Neal Girandola (38:27)
Yeah.
evolution. Yeah, that's what she said. Yeah.
Android (38:38)
to 99 % DNA with chimpanzees.
So they probably found the gorilla or whatever, right? And they started working with it. then until they got to you, the human tool.
Neal Girandola (38:45)
They made it till they got to that point. Yeah. You got to me. Yeah.
Emma G (38:49)
Huh.
Neal Girandola (38:51)
So that's why she says that two
to three million years is not enough time for natural selection to produce what we are. Interesting.
Android (38:57)
Right. Right. But I'm going to, I'm
going to punch just a little bit hole in her theory. Okay. All right. In her story, there is no sign and, and, that she evolved us in that they evolved us is that there's no sign of artificial genetic engineering in the human genome.
Neal Girandola (39:02)
Okay. Okay. In the human in the human
Okay, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. ⁓
Emma G (39:17)
What would that sign be if you don't mind me asking? what's an example of a sign?
Neal Girandola (39:17)
Huh. ⁓
I mean, you might want to Google it. I mean,
Android (39:20)
It would be West side.
Emma G (39:26)
Say it again, Andrew.
Android (39:27)
is the sign of an artificial genetic engineering in the human genome?
Neal Girandola (39:31)
is it that we may not know have the science to detect that?
Android (39:35)
No, well, if we were a species of engineered humans, right, there would be a synthetic gene sequence. Okay. There would be abrupt unexplained genome insertions, right? In the DNA strand, there would be insertions showing that there would be non-evolutionary genetic, genetic patterns as well. All right. So meaning that molecule structures, they didn't go natural mutation. were.
Neal Girandola (39:48)
Mm-hmm. ⁓
Let me
let me. Yeah, I love this. So let me just let me just say one thing. Just a thought exercise
Android (40:04)
fixed.
Neal Girandola (40:11)
if when they mapped our genome, because it was relatively right, our DNA sequence and everything else was just relatively finished mapping that what 20 years ago, right? More than that, it's been longer, whatever. What if science did discover that and said
Android (40:22)
No, more than that.
Neal Girandola (40:29)
We need to wipe that out. We cannot say that we have a synthetic or engineered genome inside us. so... ⁓
Android (40:34)
⁓ conspiracy theory.
Emma G (40:37)
be the purpose of that.
Android (40:39)
Well, to keep it from us, right?
Neal Girandola (40:39)
They keep it from
Emma G (40:40)
Yeah,
Neal Girandola (40:41)
us.
Emma G (40:41)
but why would they want to keep it from us?
Neal Girandola (40:41)
We're not actually religion, ⁓ human, everything. It's just none of this was actually, we are engineered. If I find out that I'm completely engineered from aliens, if I find out that today, I mean, I'm done. I'm going to take the day off.
Android (40:43)
We're not really humans.
Emma G (40:46)
⁓ religion. Mmm. It's a one. It's a big one.
Android (40:57)
Well, here's the thing. This story is
not the first story
says that we were created or that we were ⁓ genetically evolved from another species. This is not the first time that we've heard this. We have the Mesopotamian stories of the Anunnaki that they created humans, right, for their slaves. We have, let's go to the Bible, we have biblical creation stories in the book of Genesis. So if we're talking about Elohim,
Neal Girandola (41:11)
Mm.
Yep.
Yeah.
Android (41:24)
And according to Genesis, God made us out of a lump of clay. He made Adam out of a lump of clay. So he created us. Does that fall in line with what Lacerda said? I guess it does. Right? Right. The Greek Greek myths where Prometheus forms humans from clay, which is based on Elohim, our
Neal Girandola (41:30)
Yeah.
Yeah, it sort of does. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.
Good point,
Android (41:45)
was some other theories that were
I didn't dig into this too much. just found this modern ancient astronaut theories popularized by Eric von Dyck
Neal Girandola (41:54)
Yeah, just recently
Android (41:55)
So, those are just cultural stories and he was
Neal Girandola (41:58)
I loved his theories
though, his stuff was pretty cool and he probably looked at that aspect as well, we don't need to go down that rabbit hole but yeah, okay.
Android (42:04)
Right, right. So,
but the consensus among biologists and anthropologists and geneticists is that humans evolved naturally through evolution by natural selection.
Neal Girandola (42:14)
Okay, could be it could be a hole in the theory for sure. Yeah, that's definitely
Android (42:17)
There is,
there is no scientific evidence based on the listener story that that.
Emma G (42:22)
I did find would be something like Andrew said, be like, like an example would be like a plasmid backbone fragment, or it be like a specific other species DNA just randomly plopped in there or.
Neal Girandola (42:22)
Okay.
Sure.
Android (42:37)
Right.
Right.
Neal Girandola (42:38)
I got it. Understood. Okay. But I like my theory that maybe they wiped it out. Science wiped out that discovery so we wouldn't be like questioning religion would fall, humanity as we know it would fall. If it was confirmed that we were made by aliens?
Android (42:55)
Right, right.
Neal Girandola (42:57)
It would just change
Android (42:58)
get into Oli K and EF and all these people that are involved in this story, right? So.
Neal Girandola (43:02)
Yeah. Yeah. I think definitely important. Yes.
this really is the chain of custody here. This is where this story, if you want to, it originated from, and this is how it got out. So this is very important.
Android (43:14)
So we're talking about credibility and authenticity. Okay. That's what we'll just break it down into those of those two words. So,
Neal Girandola (43:17)
Yes.
Sure.
Android (43:20)
transmission of the Lacerda document, ⁓ this is how the chain of command goes. Okay. So the chain is only K, ⁓ the Swedish interviewer, right. Or we can call him alleged Swedish interviewer. Cause we don't know who he is. Right. That's just a name. have
Neal Girandola (43:36)
Right. Right.
Android (43:39)
who was.
Neal Girandola (43:39)
We invited him.
Android (43:40)
who invited him and was a translator or intermediary. He was the guy that that brought him all together, right?
Neal Girandola (43:45)
Right. He was
having communication with Lus- Luserta, this guy. And we- but we don't know- ⁓ you're probably gonna get into that, but we don't know that relationship. How that evolved. They did. He was in the
Android (43:50)
Yes.
I think he dated, I think they dated.
Emma G (43:57)
They did?
that real?
Android (43:58)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (43:59)
in the lizards. Yeah. Yeah. You should Google it. Yeah. well,
Android (43:59)
for reals. They were like, ⁓ maybe you're I love that spine on your back. ⁓ so hot.
Emma G (44:04)
my God, how do you think they met?
Neal Girandola (44:06)
giving me those sexy, slitty eyes.
Android (44:07)
They probably
met at some German
Neal Girandola (44:11)
Mm-hmm, coffee shop.
Emma G (44:12)
she was sliding up from from her underground tunnel.
Neal Girandola (44:14)
Wie geht's?
Android (44:17)
Hi. Her eyes.
Neal Girandola (44:18)
I have a meal.
Android (44:22)
call me Lizard.
Neal Girandola (44:24)
Actually, my German name is Norby.
Emma G (44:27)
Good.
Neal Girandola (44:31)
I like it very much
Android (44:33)
I love the music here.
Neal Girandola (44:34)
You want to go get some schnapps?
Android (44:36)
No,
I don't like schnapps.
Neal Girandola (44:37)
That's where she crosses the
Android (44:39)
We can only be friends now. You're done,
Neal Girandola (44:39)
I'm out. You're a weirdo, dude. Alright.
Android (44:42)
Okay.
Neal Girandola (44:42)
Norby.
Android (44:43)
then we have Christian, filer, right? The, the German webmaster who hosted the text, right? He changed it. He translated it from German to,
Neal Girandola (44:50)
Yeah.
Android (44:52)
to English.
Neal Girandola (44:52)
And he said it was a hoax.
Android (44:53)
And then we have, ⁓ the prov, the problem.
which is the Russian where it appeared, right? And the article appeared in 2002. And then we have another guy by the name of Jimmy Bergman. He was a UFO researcher who republished this in 2004 and kind of made it
Neal Girandola (44:57)
Yeah.
Mm.
Okay. Okay. ⁓ okay.
Android (45:12)
more mainstream, right? So here's what we can verify, right? We can verify that the text
Neal Girandola (45:12)
mainstream. Yeah.
Android (45:19)
on German UFO forums around 2001 to
okay?
Neal Girandola (45:24)
Wait, I want to go back.
Maybe you were getting to this, but I want to go back to EF. There's nothing more on
Android (45:28)
I'm going to get to that
just going to give you the facts, right? Several verifiable facts, right? It was hosted on websites, right? Associated with Christian ⁓
Neal Girandola (45:35)
Yeah. Yep.
Android (45:39)
articles appeared on Prava, the researchers later, right? What cannot be verified is there's no confirmed identity of Oli K.
Emma G (45:49)
and
Android (45:50)
Nobody knows who he is. Nobody knows his full name. There's no records of his existence. There's no other interviews that he conducted. So if he was like this famous journalist friend of EF, where's all his other writings? Or he wrote us another pseudonym? I don't know.
Neal Girandola (46:02)
Well, would imagine is this Yeah, under
another pseudonym, but did it but did they say how did these Pravda and them say how this this ⁓ transcript got to them?
Android (46:13)
It was just sent to them. was no, there's the thing just like appeared, right? And it was listed as an article or a report.
Neal Girandola (46:21)
Well, then that makes
it true. If it just appeared and there's no chain of custody, it just appears.
Android (46:24)
Right, so
there's no interviewer witnesses. So there's nobody there with Oli K when he did it. We only have Oli K saying that EF introduced them, right? His friend EF introduced
Neal Girandola (46:30)
Okay.
Android (46:37)
no publicly verified Swedish language, original manuscript. So no one saw the original Swedish. They've only seen the German,
The interview audio recordings. Nobody knows where those are and photographs.
Emma G (46:45)
⁓ interesting.
Neal Girandola (46:49)
Mm.
wasn't allowed to take.
Android (46:52)
or drawings
have disappeared. Nobody has seen them. So there's no physical.
Neal Girandola (46:56)
But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're saying that photos did originally
exist. I thought there weren't any pictures taken.
Android (47:01)
There weren't. And the reason why is because she could control your mind.
was one of the things that came out in the article, so...
Neal Girandola (47:08)
So you're saying
she was saying,
cannot take my picture. You cannot take my picture. And you cannot take my picture. You cannot take a picture of yourself. Take a picture of yourself. Yeah. Yeah. That's what happened. They turned the camera on yourself and then that was it. And then he never thought about taking pictures again after that, because he thought he took pictures in weird
Android (47:12)
And he was like, I really want to take a picture.
And then he was like, why are there all these photos of me?
Emma G (47:32)
how did the drawings come about? Were people just kind of sketching this or?
Android (47:34)
She was, he was going to try
to sketch, right? Or sketch what they look like. Like, I mean, I've seen when I was doing research on this, I saw like AI or artists renditions of what she looked like. Some of them were pretty hot. She was like,
Emma G (47:38)
Okay.
Neal Girandola (47:46)
based
on the transcript but but my question to you i i just i'm a little
there were pictures taken and there was drawings made but they're gone or there were never pictures taken and there were never drawings made okay all right yeah
Android (47:55)
They're gone. They, they, right. We don't know. We don't know. Okay. So,
you know, a lot of people call this a hoax or fiction creative writing, but here's evidence that actually supports this, right? Is that the written narrative called the Lacerda interview exists.
there is a document called the Lacerda interview, the physical odd document, right?
Neal Girandola (48:15)
That exists. Right. There's a document that exists. Yep.
Android (48:19)
We know
Neal Girandola (48:19)
Yep.
Android (48:19)
that it became circulating on the internet in the early
Neal Girandola (48:23)
We can find it on the internet. Can you find
you find the actual document? Our researchers going to jump on that right now. She's on it.
Android (48:25)
Yeah, I think you can. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Emma G (48:30)
Yep.
Android (48:31)
Okay,
so, and the original author is unknown.
Neal Girandola (48:36)
but originally they're saying but it was only K, but we don't know who that is, right?
Android (48:36)
Okay. But that doesn't mean anything. That doesn't mean
anything. I mean, how many times do we get stuff from an anonymous source? Always, right?
Neal Girandola (48:42)
always always and that's that's the
trouble with this so we just got to base our decision on what we're hearing here today so that's what we'll do so go ahead
Android (48:49)
Right.
So I'm going to talk a little bit about Christian Fieler. Fieler. Filer. Filer.
Neal Girandola (48:53)
Filer, Filer, Filer.
Android (48:56)
say potato, I say patata. You say Fieler, I say Filer. Fieler, Filer, tomato, tomata. Let's have an alien podcast. Yeah, Gershwin didn't write that, ladies and gentlemen. I just did it just now.
Neal Girandola (48:57)
You
huh. ⁓ Yeah. That was great. Did you work on that last night?
Emma G (49:12)
talking about the
PDF of the, of the, yeah, like the actual PDF of the Lucerta files. Yes, I have retrieved it and I can download it right
Neal Girandola (49:14)
Lacerda files.
Android (49:16)
The actual.
Yeah, it's.
Neal Girandola (49:20)
Yes.
Emma G (49:25)
I don't know if that helps our listeners. I'm going to download it and then like a swap team is going to come in. Yeah. No.
Neal Girandola (49:25)
You should do it, but I'm just saying it was easy to find Yeah, but it was pretty easy to find there's no other yeah, they're all gonna be knocking on your door
Android (49:34)
No, it's not hiding. There's not hiding, right?
he is often described in UF forums as the webmaster who hosted the Lacerda interview on a German website in the early 2000s.
many retellings, he, filer, filer, not feeler, filer. Okay.
Neal Girandola (49:46)
Wait, say that again? Who's filer filer. Yeah. Yeah. He
hosted a website.
Android (49:55)
Right. He also in the early 2000s and many retellings, he is also described as the translator or the distributor who helped the story reach English speakers.
Neal Girandola (50:02)
Mm-hmm.
he have been the true author and he's the one who started spreading this out just to make it build this aura around this whole story and conspiracy? I mean, I mean, you do it that way. How do you make money? What's the point? So wonder. Yeah.
Android (50:14)
That's...possibly? Yeah. Yeah.
Mmm.
But I don't know, I
don't
he also doesn't have a lot of stuff that he's done. So this was like the biggest thing that he's
right?
Neal Girandola (50:31)
Did he write
a book about it? Has anybody written a book?
Android (50:33)
about the Lacerda files? No, I know a lot of people have talked about it and a lot of people constantly bring it up like we are now. seems to have this, we've noticed this in the UFO stories is that they disappear and then people start talking about it again and then they disappear and they start talking about it again, right?
Neal Girandola (50:40)
Yeah, yes.
And they come back. Yes. ⁓ Right. Lemon, can you look
Emma G (50:52)
Mm. Mm-hmm.
Neal Girandola (50:56)
up to see if there is a Lacerda files book written by any author and if there is what their names
Emma G (50:58)
Sure. Yes.
Neal Girandola (51:02)
I'm going to see if anybody made money on this.
Android (51:03)
I made $16 on it. 16 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Cause
Neal Girandola (51:03)
while she's doing, while she's looking. You made 16 bucks on this? Wow. Love it.
Emma G (51:08)
It does
say there is Lysertifile, Interview with a Reptilian, about 106 pages, but no, that looks like it. No, that's the full compiled version of interview transcripts. ⁓ It doesn't, I don't see anything about
a book. Yeah, no author, specific author. Yeah, no.
Neal Girandola (51:25)
Is there an author that who published that? No. Okay. Okay.
Android (51:29)
So
here's the thing, was no, so this, if this thing existed, what I was struggling with when I started digging into it, cause I love the story a lot, is
there was never like a scanned document. It was all from Filers ⁓ document that he transcribed. That's what we have. We have the German and we have the English. And then he said that it was translated from, by EF from Swedish to
German and then he got the German but there was document was never like scanned in it wasn't created until after he translated it and the document was then created. So I'm starting to get influenced by what you said Neal when you're like, well, did he write it? You know, did only came the thing is is that only K was never never confirmed that he was even a real person. Right. So and and
Neal Girandola (51:58)
Mm.
Right.
Sure. Yeah. then, and, hence doesn't confirm
EF.
Android (52:24)
No, right, no original Swedish document was ever seen either.
Neal Girandola (52:29)
Interesting.
Emma G (52:29)
Do we think
it's possible that maybe they were afraid of being shamed from society or embarrassed by society so they kept it anonymous or kept their names hidden?
Android (52:38)
Possibly. Yeah,
no, because shaming is a big thing. That happens a lot. That happens a lot. Good
there's no independent witnesses and no audio recordings. And we know there's no photographs because she would
Neal Girandola (52:43)
or
Android (52:49)
don't take.
Neal Girandola (52:50)
there, we could go, you could say anything that in either direction of this. And my point being is
Lacerda actually says that she can manipulate human visual perception, right? And not through physical disguise. But if she has mind control, she can obviously affect how the human brain processes what it sees what it
Android (53:03)
Right.
Neal Girandola (53:15)
hears all of this stuff. maybe, it
presented this got this document done, but erased, I don't know, some sort of perception of who these people might be, in a sense, I know, it's a little deep and woo, woo, but and we don't do that here. We're not deep in woo, woo. But there could be a possibility that this was manipulated to get out.
to us so we get some sort of conversation going regarding it and there might be some truth to it. it's just the chain of custody is gone because we it's been manipulated to be gone.
Android (53:39)
Right. So, right.
Now,
now,
one of the claims that Lacerda said in her thing, she mentioned the Procyon.
Neal Girandola (53:54)
Procyon, what's a procyon?
Android (53:55)
Procyon, she named it as a constellation.
Emma G (53:58)
Ooh.
Neal Girandola (53:59)
where she's from or what's that have to do with
Android (54:00)
⁓ she just, yeah,
she, well, she, talked about lots of star systems and, the battles and all this stuff. And she talked about that they had come from the Procyon. P R O P R O C Y O N.
Neal Girandola (54:07)
Yeah. Sure. Sure. How do you spell that? P-R-O-C-E-E-O-N.
Emma G (54:17)
it's actually, ⁓ Procyon is a bright
Android (54:19)
⁓
Emma G (54:21)
Yeah.
Android (54:21)
where the discrepancy is because in the translation
she said the Procyon constellation. When Procyon is actually a single star system, not a constellation, it's the brightest star in the constellation Canis
which we know as.
Neal Girandola (54:35)
Does that mean
is a star a planet stars not a planet right so right but is
Android (54:40)
No, a star is not a planet.
Neal Girandola (54:42)
is there a Procyon constellation or no does that
no no so may have been lost in translation or maybe they live on a star I would always I always wanted to live on a star
Android (54:45)
no, Procyon is the name of that star.
That's what I'm saying. When we're going from Swedish to German,
can't live on the star. You'd burn up.
Neal Girandola (54:57)
I
Maybe.
I was an alien, maybe.
Emma G (54:58)
But don't we kind of like
from far away a planet does kind of look like a star from far away when you see it.
Android (55:02)
It does. that
the planets all just lined up recently.
Neal Girandola (55:05)
Yes, I did on the 28th of February. Amazing. All right, so interesting. So but I don't know what what does that have to do with a cup of tea in China?
Emma G (55:05)
yeah. ⁓
Android (55:08)
Yeah. So.
Well, this just
has this is starting to like debunk the article. We're going to start moving into that into that realm.
Neal Girandola (55:18)
Sure. Sure. Well, this is such a,
Emma G (55:18)
I'm sorry.
Neal Girandola (55:20)
it's a transcript from the get-go. You could, could debunk it immediately because it's just a transcript, but it's a great story. I love this. What else do you have? You have more.
Android (55:25)
Right. Yeah, right. So
I also have talking about copper, right? Using copper as the thing for a war. It is common throughout the whole universe that copper exists,
is the 25th most abundant element in the Earth's crust, right? So if they were coming here, there's a lot more other things that they could use or that they would want.
Emma G (55:50)
you say that it's very common in the universe?
Android (55:53)
Yeah,
Emma G (55:53)
So it's found on other
Android (55:54)
that's it's found
Emma G (55:56)
Okay, interesting. Great.
Android (55:56)
as what I'm guessing. That was what the research told me. I don't know how true that is.
Neal Girandola (55:56)
Mmm.
Android (56:01)
even though copper is, is not cosmically rare, the idea that a civilization might compete over it is inherently impossible. Like why would they be fighting for
Emma G (56:07)
Mm.
in.
Android (56:12)
it's it's out there, right? It's it's
prevalent, it's there. I mean, if you compare it to like oil or lithium.
Neal Girandola (56:20)
Yeah,
it's a fair point. I just don't know enough about the availability of it just based on what you're saying. If it's on other planets and you can find it anywhere. Yeah, that's interesting. You know, but it's also one of those things where, you know, they have theory behind the Anunnaki, you know, manipulating us to become slaves to mine for
here on Earth.
⁓ to mine for gold. I just don't know, isn't gold everywhere? Don't asteroids have like really rich minerals and all those things? So I don't know. Yeah.
Android (56:45)
Right. Right.
High minerals. Yeah. Iron and magnesium and yeah.
are a couple of things to think about, you know, we're going to go back. I'm going to rehash this missing evidence of the story,
no photos, but I wrote that away by saying mind control abilities, ⁓ prevents the photography or the video recording, right? The auto recordings.
Neal Girandola (57:03)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Sure. Right.
Android (57:14)
But it didn't, but this is the thing it didn't, it did not stop them from recording the thing, but now the recordings just, they're lost. Nobody knows where they are.
Neal Girandola (57:22)
Well,
Android (57:23)
the original documents, you know, why aren't there, where's the Swedish document? You know, is that being withheld for, I don't know. Is there stuff in it that they didn't want to translate?
all the witnesses, their identities are hidden. So each piece of this puzzle kind of starts breaking down when you really start digging into
So there's no physical artifacts, there's no recorded interviews, there's no corroborating witnesses, and there's no documents that are traceable to the origin. Those are four major problems with ⁓ this newsletter, we'll call it, right, from Lacerda, the transcript.
Neal Girandola (57:59)
The transcript. Yeah, sure.
Okay.
Android (58:01)
All right, so
that evidence is absent. That evidence is completely absent. And then underground alien bases, know, cause that's where she would live, right? In an underground reptilian base. No one's, no, no. And where did she, where was she hanging out? Was she just like, I mean, and with her mind control, she could make you see her as a normal person. And she says that they're walking among us now.
Neal Girandola (58:11)
Yeah, yeah, she never said what area of the world though, right?
Yes. Yes.
Now. And that's the other question. Like how large of a population are they back then and underground? And then how, what are they today?
Android (58:34)
16.
Neal Girandola (58:35)
16 of them. Wow. 16 of them. Lacerda. Lacerda.
Emma G (58:35)
16 what? poor guys.
Android (58:36)
Only 16 left. Yeah. Yeah.
She got hit by a bus. Unfortunately. Yeah, it was really sad. Yep. Holy
Neal Girandola (58:43)
Right after the transcript came out. ⁓
Emma G (58:46)
⁓ shoot. Do we have any
kind of maps of the subterranean
cities, anything beneath the United States?
Android (58:53)
I mean,
Neal Girandola (58:54)
Well no.
Android (58:54)
the only
thing that we have maps, mean, they have underground, I know underwater cities that they've found Atlantis or whatever. It's in the Bahamas. You can go and visit it. It's beautiful.
Emma G (59:00)
Mmm. I'm gonna...
I'm going to share a fun fact with you guys. I do know an individual who's, they have a property in upstate New York and they found, I believe it is the second largest labyrinth in North America on his property in upstate New York. Happened to stumble upon this ⁓ individual and he said that the government did find this through radar, ⁓ sonar radar. I don't know that technological term.
Android (59:19)
wow.
Neal Girandola (59:29)
Mm-hmm.
Emma G (59:31)
But they did find
Neal Girandola (59:31)
Mm-hmm.
Emma G (59:31)
it. They came to his front door. They said, Hey, we're coming on the property. We are searching this underground labyrinth and they put a big gate and a lock on it. And ⁓ he does have access to that lock, but they are, they have been, you know, searching it. is actual, there are articles about this. So,
Neal Girandola (59:51)
They
find anything in there or they not say that they found anything?
Emma G (59:54)
Well, they haven't
said anything. He has had experiences on his property. I don't want to totally expose him. We can talk about it. I don't know. He believes that they are alien experiences. Some kind of, I don't want to say, mean, to our conversation, don't know if they're extraterrestrial or maybe if they are our lizard friends,
Neal Girandola (1:00:04)
What do mean ghost experiences or alien?
Android (1:00:11)
weird.
into our environment.
Emma G (1:00:21)
yeah.
Neal Girandola (1:00:21)
Where is this?
Emma G (1:00:21)
Upstate New York.
Neal Girandola (1:00:22)
that's interesting. I'd like to hear more about this. This would be fun to talk about anyway. Okay. Yep. And then let's wrap it
Android (1:00:26)
Here's one more thing to think about.
have to look at it like all these stories are kind of borrowed. They could be borrowed from other from other cultures and other things. There are stories that have existed since the beginning of time. Right. So she mentioned Quasar Quadal, right. The serpent and Aztec.
Neal Girandola (1:00:36)
Yeah, sure.
Emma G (1:00:38)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (1:00:43)
Mm-hmm.
Android (1:00:44)
She mentioned dragons in China.
she talked about.
Neal Girandola (1:00:46)
she was clarifying
the fact that these are not mythology there. Yeah, it's but
Android (1:00:49)
Worshipped as gods they were worshiped as gods, but they weren't
gods. They were just them
So
Neal Girandola (1:00:55)
But that's
what that was her point was, listen, you guys think it's mythology. It's not there actually exists. And here's the deal about UFOs. You know, let's clarify. These are not reverse engineered. These are you guys making this. This is this is us. This is
Android (1:01:07)
Right. Well,
remember the show Land of the Lost? The Slee Stacks? Right. They were like lizard. That's them.
Neal Girandola (1:01:11)
Yeah, Slee slack. Yeah, yeah, that's them.
I wouldn't have danced with her if she looked like a sleet stack. No. Yeah. No, Lacerda. I'm sorry. You're on your own.
Android (1:01:20)
No.
⁓
Emma G (1:01:26)
If Lacerda
Android (1:01:26)
It's.
Emma G (1:01:27)
looked really reptilian in 1999, and here we are 27 years later, are the reptilian people, are they now, have they evolved to look more like us? And they're walking among us now. There's, oh, they're like shapeshifter.
Neal Girandola (1:01:41)
No, no, they can make themselves look like us.
Android (1:01:41)
No, no, and they never said that she looked
like super reptile. She just said she looked like a reptile.
Neal Girandola (1:01:45)
Yes.
She has.
Yeah, but she said.
Emma G (1:01:49)
But she had pale green
skin. Do we...
Android (1:01:51)
Yeah, but you know, iron deficiency.
Neal Girandola (1:01:55)
She think of it as but think of it as her as the way I understood it. She was saying that it's sort of like they have this cloaking manipulation they can do that makes them look human. And that's how they live among us
Android (1:02:05)
Yeah, with their mind.
Emma G (1:02:06)
⁓ cool.
Neal Girandola (1:02:08)
All right. That's all great details. I love this story a
lemon with all this information that you just heard. Do you think that this is a mostly true alien story or not?
Emma G (1:02:17)
say yes. I'm gonna say yes because I really like the evolution theory. I really like the reptilian story. I think it's cool that they are indigenous and native to Earth and it gives Earth a little bit more of a dynamic story and yeah I'm gonna roll with it. I'm gonna say yes. Lacerta I'm a little bit I'm questioning but the story as a whole yeah.
Neal Girandola (1:02:29)
Mm-hmm.
Alright.
it's great. Great story really. I'm sorry. Lemon says it's a mostly true alien story. Andrew, I'm gonna hand it over to you with all the information that we've discussed today. Do you think that the Lacerda files is a mostly true alien story or not?
love when you
Android (1:02:52)
No.
Neal Girandola (1:02:53)
You always lean in. You always lean in.
Emma G (1:02:55)
He got me that time, I thought he'd say yes.
Android (1:02:58)
No, no, this is
just a fiction story. My God, guys, there's no
know what, I'm gonna write it. I'm gonna come up and I'm gonna say that a frog lady came and visited me and she told me that they've been living here forever in ponds. Ponds are deeper than what we think. They have technology. No, this is not. This is just some story. There's no Oli K, there's no EF. I looked everywhere for these
Neal Girandola (1:03:05)
Ha ha.
Uh huh. Uh huh.
you
Yeah? Uh-huh.
Android (1:03:24)
The fact that they don't have the original Swedish, what the frick did they get the, where did they get the translation from? How do you translate German from Swedish to German if you don't have a document?
Emma G (1:03:28)
Yeah.
Android (1:03:35)
And the fact that they genetically modified humans, my God, there's no genomes in our system that show that we have been genetically modified. I'm just delivering the science, the science.
Emma G (1:03:42)
I guess so, I guess so.
Neal Girandola (1:03:43)
Right, right. Okay. All right. Fair enough. But
Emma G (1:03:47)
It's true, it's true.
Neal Girandola (1:03:48)
based
on the information that listen, we could do it. There's a lot probably a lot more details we could have dove into here. Yeah. So I love that you tell us how many pages that you have how many pages you should just make book. You should. Yeah, he didn't. Yeah, I'm gonna write a book. I was up for two hours.
Android (1:03:53)
I threw away like 10 pages here. had like 40 pages.
Emma G (1:03:59)
it makes me feel bad when he says he threw away the pages
Android (1:04:03)
I'm gonna write a book on this and I'm gonna make money off of Lacerda and screw you guys. You're gonna be
like coming up to me in your homeless coat and I'm doing my book signing. I'm gonna be like, sure, let me sign a book for you here. Sell that, make some money so you can get a hamburger.
Emma G (1:04:18)
I'm the head with it.
Neal Girandola (1:04:20)
You know,
I was just thinking that, um, uh, that it is a great idea that we should, uh, the three of us should each write our own story. Like Andrew said, don't put your name on it. And then what we're going to do is see whose story we believe the
right. We'll go around that route.
Emma G (1:04:36)
Yes! I love that.
Neal Girandola (1:04:39)
right. So a lemon says it is a mostly true alien story. Andrew says it is not, it does not have here. He thinks it's a hoax.
And now it's my turn to weigh in.
I'm not ready to file this one as an obvious hoax yet. There is, I hear both sides
it definitely ⁓ is a framework that really holds up against, you know, these stories that we've heard. It does hold up. Yes. The evolution thing is, is mysterious. Again, I, you could add anything in here, but then I'm adding in the fact that
science eliminated that they did discover it and they don't want us to know that there we were genetically engineered. ⁓ That's
Android (1:05:18)
I love
Neal Girandola (1:05:20)
It's just a very clean and great story that you want to believe in it so much it is just a transcript and if we just take it at that basis and only K is not verified and he F is no there's no chain there.
I think I lean into the side where ⁓ Filer is the actual author. So it's hard because I want to say that this is partly true, but on this show we can't do it. We can't do that. We're not allowed to do
Emma G (1:05:41)
Yeah, that's a cool one.
Android (1:05:45)
sick
Neal Girandola (1:05:48)
is not a mostly true alien story, but there's some great relation. There is some great links there. I did. did. But it was really it's
Emma G (1:05:51)
he left me hanging
Android (1:05:57)
It's a great story.
Neal Girandola (1:06:00)
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Emma G (1:06:12)
You
Neal Girandola (1:06:16)
Alright guys, great job on all the work. We'll see you on the next episode. Until then,
be kind to the aliens when they get here, or they might already be here. So they might already be here, so be kind to
you later.