Neal Girandola (00:00)
July 23, 1992, Sydney,
Khoury wakes
women are sitting on his
don't look entirely
have an
It ends.
finds a strand of hair
on his privates.
keeps
Six years later,
a DNA test
something
is the Peter Khoury case.
you
Let's get into
to another episode of Mostly
Alien Stories.
Neal Girandola (00:40)
back to Mostly True Alien Stories. I'm Neil Girandola and this is the podcast where we take a true report of an alien encounter from history. share what we know, then decide whether it's a mostly true alien story or not. And today's report is unlike anything we've covered before. Most abduction cases come down to the testimony of one person,
Emma G (00:40)
do it again.
Neal Girandola (01:03)
with no physical trace.
It's just a story, but this one has a hair, a single strand of blonde hair tested in a forensic DNA lab by a research group with actual scientific credentials
and what the lab found has never been satisfactorily explained. This is the Peter Khoury case. The only alien abduction in history with DNA evidence. Now they got that evidence is
the story we're going to be telling today, which I can't wait to get into. Make sure you hit that subscribe button on whatever channel you're listening through and follow us on Instagram and tick tock at mostly true alien stories.
And of course, joining me today
two of my favorite people in all the universe who absolutely disagree about everything we're going to be discussing. It's Andrew Triana and lemon G say hello. Hi guys.
Android (01:59)
Hi Neil.
Emma G (01:59)
Hey.
Neal Girandola (02:00)
let's get into the Peter Khoury
Peter Khoury was born in Lebanon and emigrated to Australia as a young
By 1992, he was living in Sydney, working in construction.
He was 26 years old, married, living an ordinary life in 1992.
had one prior encounter, I should note on record, a 1988 incident in which he reported being paralyzed in
Hooded figures entered his room and a needle was inserted into the side of his head.
And he reported it at the time,
nobody paid much attention to it.
Then came July 23, 1992 when this new incident happened. It was late morning. Khoury had been ill and had gone back to bed after his wife left for
he woke up to find two women sitting on his
the first was Asian in appearance with.
Emma G (02:56)
That's it.
Android (02:59)
That happens to me all the time.
Neal Girandola (03:01)
I know.
Android (03:01)
Strange
hotel room, waking up, two women sitting on the bed. So weird that this guy's just stealing my story.
Neal Girandola (03:04)
So weird. Yes.
stealing the story you used to tell your
Yeah. Can't explain it.
Android (03:11)
Right.
Emma G (03:13)
They were aliens, I swear.
Neal Girandola (03:14)
Right.
Android (03:14)
They were
aliens and they came in my room and it was horrible. had to have sex with them. It's terrible. Several times to me. Yeah. Sorry. Over three days. Yeah.
Emma G (03:17)
Damn.
Neal Girandola (03:17)
Ha ha ha ha.
several times several times over three days.
All
right. The first was Asian in appearance, he says. It was dark oversized eyes, very fine features and an unusual pale appearance.
Emma G (03:32)
Ugh.
Neal Girandola (03:41)
And she appeared to be around his same age as Peter Khoury.
And the second was a tall
Scandinavian looking, but with proportions that were slightly off the cheekbones as he explains it were too prominent.
eyes slightly too large and it was the kind of almost right appearance that registers as wrong before you can explain why. Neither woman
encounter was brief and physical and Khoury did not experience paralysis the way he had in 1988. He was fully conscious for this one. So yeah.
Android (04:14)
No, he didn't. I'm sure he didn't. He was had their full attention. She had her full attention
Emma G (04:15)
I'm sure he didn't.
Android (04:21)
and he was not paralyzed.
Neal Girandola (04:24)
Ha ha ha!
When it was over, he paid the women and they left. ⁓ no. mean when it was over.
Android (04:31)
paint them in galactic currency.
Neal Girandola (04:32)
when it was
Yes. A galactic currency.
both of the women they were gone or
He got up after this encounter. I'm assuming it's sexual. went to the bathroom
and that's when he discovered
wrapped around his tiny parts was a ⁓ single strand of fine blonde hair.
So he
Emma G (05:00)
Wow.
Neal Girandola (05:00)
he removed it carefully and he put it in a small plastic bag and he didn't throw it away.
And he kept it for six
And
Emma G (05:10)
Wow.
Neal Girandola (05:11)
his little private momento box that he keeps things from great memories
and
Android (05:18)
Such a great night.
Neal Girandola (05:19)
put it, I'm gonna keep it in my special box.
Android (05:19)
keep this hair, I'm keep
this hair in my special box with the other parts of the people that I've murdered.
Emma G (05:20)
My alien ladies.
Neal Girandola (05:28)
all the hookers I've killed. I always keep a strand of hair
and a box for six years. Yeah.
Android (05:32)
He has a whole outfit. He's like cousin it now. He's got so much hair. It's like, ⁓
Emma G (05:33)
That's it.
Ugh,
yeah, he's a wig.
Neal Girandola (05:39)
In the late nineties, ⁓ Khoury was got in contact with, ⁓ Bill Chalker.
this guy is an Australian UFO researcher with a background in chemistry.
and he had spent years building a case for rigorous scientific analysis of physical UFO evidence. So this guy
a role in the whole
UFO experiences or alien experiences for not just curry, but for many he's formed this group ⁓ called anomaly physical evidence group known as a
a peg and
and
Yeah.
Android (06:12)
I pegged two of them.
Emma G (06:13)
No.
Neal Girandola (06:15)
This
group was specifically to apply proper forensic methodology to reported physical evidence from UFO encounters, as it's
And they use actual lab science, I should say. It's not just fringe analysis. So in 1998, let's go six years after ⁓ Khoury has this encounter with these two female aliens,
Chalker submits the hair sample that Khoury
found on his penis for DNA analysis. And the testing was done using the PCRs, which amplifies trace DNA for analysis. It's the same methodology used in forensic criminal investigations, basically. And the results were published in the International UFO Reporter in 1999. And here's what they found. They found that the
was human. It was human, not animal.
human mitochondrial DNA. The mitochondrial DNA sequence belong to a rare Chinese lineage, specifically a subgroup found in less than one to 2 % of Chinese women.
that lineage has never been recorded in a blonde person. Remember, he found the blonde strand of hair on
lead sequence portion of the DNA was unlike anything in the database at the
So to be precise about what this means, the hair looked like it came from a blonde woman.
The DNA said it came from a lineage that is essentially only found in Chinese women. And even then, only in a tiny fraction of
And the combination did not exist in any known human population.
So Chalker described it as evidence of an unusual human lineage, one that didn't fit any documented ethnic profile.
It's interesting, but I don't know. There's nothing here yet that's convincing me. I'm going to say it upfront. It just sounds suspect. All right. So Khoury didn't cash in. He didn't go on a media tour.
Android (08:11)
What?
Neal Girandola (08:16)
he founded the UFO Experience Support
He started that in 1993, ⁓ a year after the incident, actually, even before the DNA testing, which is interesting.
Android (08:26)
In that support
group, did they sit around and be like, hi, I'm Peter. ⁓ I'm into ⁓ Asian looking aliens with blonde hair. I had an incident last night. I was sober from it, but I'm back on the wagon
Neal Girandola (08:38)
Definitely.
you kid. we we we you know, it could have affected him so much that maybe he did feel like he needed to create a support group. Maybe he did think there were other people that experienced this. And and it became a, you know, a thing for him that he's like, I think I need to start a support
Android (08:52)
Mm.
Emma G (08:53)
Yeah.
Android (08:56)
Okay.
Emma G (09:01)
So there is no other description of these women other than there were certain enlarged body parts. Like he's not saying they had three fingers or there was or the eyes were like completely black.
Neal Girandola (09:12)
Well, I think Andrew's
Android (09:14)
Hmm.
Neal Girandola (09:15)
going
to probably get into that and a little bit more. So let me let me get through this report section and then we'll that's a good question. We'll find out. All right. So anyway, he's still running that group. He's still around. Guy's still getting at
Emma G (09:17)
Yeah, we do. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Neal Girandola (09:28)
He didn't really I don't know. Andrew could probably correct this, but it doesn't look like he tried to make a lot of money. ⁓
Android (09:35)
No, the only thing
was the book that was written.
Neal Girandola (09:38)
it.
Yeah. So and he's been consistent in his account for over 30 years. So he hasn't really changed the story. But here's an added little bonus to this.
this helps our listeners and myself. ⁓ Yeah, you love when I have a bonus.
Android (09:49)
Did say bonus? Bonus, okay.
Neal Girandola (09:54)
Whitley Stryber. He's the author of communion. He had that 1987 book that described his own alien abduction.
and that sold over 2 million copies. They made a movie out of it.
he suppressed a specific detail from his own account. ⁓ His publisher told him to suppress it. So he never brought it out.
But the
detail also involved a hair. So Stryber apparently had a hair.
the Khoury case surfaced with a hair sample and DNA results, Stryber went public with this suppressed detail. So you got two witnesses in different countries, different decades, and both with sort of the same
specimen of sorts.
Emma G (10:41)
Hmm.
Neal Girandola (10:41)
I don't know
what the full details on that hair, but I'm going to hand this over to you guys. Now that is my report. This, ⁓ this is a hair and a lab with a PCR result. Is this a smoking gun? Is it enough to convince us?
or is this just an excuse for Khoury to explain away the reason he had two women in his bedroom when his wife left for
We're going to find out. ⁓ and we're, the three of us will weigh in on whether we think.
This is a mostly true alien story or not. Alright, Andrew, what do you have?
Android (11:12)
what I find fascinating with this story is there's different accounts. You have the account to where the hair was tied around Peter Khoury's penis. I have an account where the actual strand of blonde hair was in his mouth. So according, this is just another story. According to Khoury, he was lying in bed when he became...
Neal Girandola (11:24)
Mm-hmm.
Either
of those scenarios worked for me. Yeah.
Android (11:40)
Okay, okay, good.
Yeah, I mean it works. They got the hair. Yeah, mouth.
Emma G (11:42)
but two very different regions. They got the hair somehow.
Neal Girandola (11:45)
Yeah. Yeah.
I just, one of those things though, where like it is a hair in my mouth. The second it's in my mouth, I'm pulling that sucker out of there. I got to get that hair out of my mouth. I'm putting it on my penis. I'm going to keep it here.
Android (11:55)
and putting it on your penis?
Emma G (11:57)
⁓ So don't
Android (11:59)
I'm put that there so I know exactly where it is.
Emma G (12:02)
lose it!
Android (12:04)
I keep change down there too. What?
Neal Girandola (12:05)
I
might get this DNA tested. I don't know. I don't know.
Android (12:10)
Okay. according to Khoury, we're just going to, Khoury, we're going to go back to the story. He was lying in bed when suddenly he became paralyzed. Okay. The original 1990. No, no, I'm talking about 92. I'm actually talking about 92. said he wasn't paralyzed. Right. You didn't find that. Well, I do the deep research here. I found it says he suddenly became paralyzed.
Neal Girandola (12:19)
You're talking about his original. The first one, in 88.
Emma G (12:25)
Mm.
Neal Girandola (12:26)
because I didn't. It was. Yeah, no.
Are you sure that's not the convolution of his original one because they said he was paralyzed against a needle in the head and people came in approach.
Android (12:40)
Well, let me finish. Let me finish.
He said two humanoid female entities appeared in the room. One described as Nordic type, the tall blonde. The other appeared Asian with dark hair. He claimed the blonde climbed on top of him and tried to do a sexual encounter
Neal Girandola (12:50)
Yeah.
Right. You're confirming what I said.
Mm-hmm.
Android (13:02)
He bit her nipple in a panic.
Emma G (13:05)
⁓ sorry.
Android (13:07)
and afterward found a strand of blonde hair in his mouth.
Neal Girandola (13:10)
Wait a
climbed on to have sex with him and he bites her nipple. He and he bites. That's his first reaction is I'm going to bite her nipple to get me off or get get her off me. Yeah.
Android (13:13)
Right, she had long hair. Well...
Emma G (13:19)
Well, he can't move, so he can't move anything
Android (13:19)
Yeah, to get her off, right. Because
he's like, Hey, wait a second, strange alien lady, you're not my wife. Why are you
Emma G (13:22)
else.
Neal Girandola (13:28)
She's at work and she'll be home in an hour and a half. Well, you have time. You have 90 minutes.
Android (13:33)
Why are you taking so long? You know what? I'm done. Just get off of me. Arr!
Emma G (13:38)
Yeah
Neal Girandola (13:38)
So,
but this, this was his explanation was he bit her nipple to get her off of him was cause. Yeah, but I don't, if I panic, I'm not biting nipples. I panic. I'm going to grab you. I'm going to grab you and throw you off me.
Android (13:44)
He panicked. No, he panicked. He was like, what is this woman? No.
Emma G (13:50)
It's his only defense. He can't move. He's paralyzed.
Android (13:54)
He's paralyzed. He's
paralyzed. The only thing he move is his mouth.
Emma G (13:55)
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (13:57)
he's saying he's paralyzed. He's paralyzed during this?
Emma G (13:59)
Yeah.
Android (13:59)
Yeah,
that's what, that's the encounter that I, one of the encounters I felt. found the encounter where it says it was wrapped around his penis. I found so many different things.
Emma G (14:08)
I'm
Neal Girandola (14:10)
Yeah, but I want to clarify.
I want to clarify this because this is important for our decision. Because if we're getting different stories on this, it doesn't make sense because he didn't say anything about being paralyzed in this report that I found. It was in his original ⁓ experience, which hadn't just people walk into his room and he was stuck on his bed. That was an 88. That was not that wasn't a sexual experience. This one is and you're saying that he was paralyzed by this.
Android (14:32)
That was in 98, right.
Neal Girandola (14:39)
So he's not able to move his hands, and he bites her nip, but he can move his mouth and bite her
So maybe she was leaning way over on him?
Android (14:47)
Yeah, maybe.
Emma G (14:48)
would like to know if you can move your mouth when you're paralyzed. I would like to know that. Well, if you're like, yeah, like how paralyzed is this?
Neal Girandola (14:51)
Well, that's the other question.
Android (14:53)
But you know what? It could have been like paralyzed
with fear, not actually paralyzed. Maybe just paralyzed shock. Maybe he wasn't like paralyzed. He was just like, huh.
Neal Girandola (15:00)
Yeah, but that
Emma G (15:03)
I
did look it up. does say he that in his second encounter, yes, he felt completely immobilized.
Neal Girandola (15:05)
Yeah.
Okay. So she had to been, I'm saying I'm going to do visuals here. So this is him. This is Peter. This is Peter sitting up. This is Peter sitting up. I want you to see this is Peter laying down. This is the alien on top. This would be the alien down low enough to get her nipple bit by Peter. She does slide up. So she's maybe she had long lower torso that could stay where she needed to be to get encounter.
Android (15:15)
Mouth, nipple.
Well, she'd have to miff up too, right?
Or it could move. She
Emma G (15:37)
Ahem.
Android (15:37)
could
shape shift.
Neal Girandola (15:38)
she could shape shift to stretch her body, it would stretch. It was like, it would just stretch down. Maybe they're really up high too. Like maybe they're under her neck. Yeah, that could have been right here. And that's what he bit.
Android (15:41)
Or she had huge breasts.
Maybe her nipples were here or she had a nipple in the center of her forehead.
Emma G (15:53)
Or maybe she
was like getting up. She was like getting that angle ready to mount. Yes. And,
Android (15:58)
Yeah, the mounting amount.
Neal Girandola (15:59)
and he bit the nipple.
But so I think all of our theories. Yeah, I think I think all of our theories are substantial, but it doesn't explain it in Khoury's description. That's not how he explains it.
Android (16:07)
Yes.
Emma G (16:08)
Yeah.
Android (16:12)
No, he doesn't explain anything. All he says is that he bit her nipple. He panicked and bit her nipple.
Neal Girandola (16:17)
Did that hurt the alien? Did she jump off?
Android (16:19)
He didn't say
that they disappeared after that. So she was like, I'm out of here. Boop. Afterwards, they disappeared.
Neal Girandola (16:22)
So he... So he...
Emma G (16:23)
He said they disappeared after that? After
Neal Girandola (16:26)
So
Emma G (16:27)
the bite.
Neal Girandola (16:27)
there was no penetration.
Android (16:28)
Not that he describes, no.
Neal Girandola (16:31)
a better story if I had said I had two hot aliens on my bed and one was on me. I'm telling my friends, especially my guy friends, I'd be telling them all, yeah, and then these aliens, damn, that one blonde alien, she had nipples right here under her neck. I told her to get off.
Android (16:44)
She was
The other one didn't do anything. She just liked to watch.
Emma G (16:50)
Yep. But I told her to get off. I told her to get
Android (16:53)
I say, get off.
Emma G (16:55)
out of here.
Android (16:55)
Hey little dark haired one, why don't you come over here?
Neal Girandola (16:57)
Yeah,
I run this show in my bed.
Android (17:01)
This is my house, my house!
Emma G (17:02)
So...
Neal Girandola (17:03)
I don't know why he talks like
yeah, I would have made up something better than all right. So he's so saying it's over in seconds after he her nipple. She's out, but that would piss any alien off. Yeah, but that would, that would piss any alien hot alien off. If you bite her nipple, she'd be like, yeah, you know
Android (17:10)
Yeah, yeah, then he's got a hair like he's like Yeah ⁓
Neal Girandola (17:20)
was going to be great, dude. You were going to love this.
Android (17:23)
Kurt would never do that. Kirk would never bite nipples. Think about it. Yeah, he would have been like, okay.
Emma G (17:23)
Yeah, probably like a scratch or something. It be like slap.
Neal Girandola (17:28)
Yeah, Captain Kirk would have seen that all the way through. Okay, I can't
move. I can't move. There are two hot aliens on me. They're about to do things to me. I am not gonna fight this. I'm gonna just... Okay. What's next? Yeah. Because this is for research.
Android (17:41)
I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take it like a champ.
Emma G (17:45)
He told his wife, said, I bit that nipple and she ran. Don't you worry. Never.
Android (17:45)
Right.
Neal Girandola (17:49)
Yeah. She read. Don't you worry, honey. Mm hmm. Mm This is 90. You
Android (17:49)
Yeah. And she left, baby. I never cheated on you. I wouldn't cheat on you, Hmm. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (17:57)
think they had security cameras in the house then 93 probably not. Okay.
Android (17:59)
No, no, they had a ring camera.
Emma G (18:00)
92.
Neal Girandola (18:02)
I know
Android (18:02)
He had one of
those weird cameras like by his bed, but it was turned off.
Maybe his wife filmed it, but she wasn't there because he was sick. Right.
Emma G (18:12)
Mmm.
Neal Girandola (18:12)
She was at work. Yeah. It's
funny. She's probably like, this happens only when I'm at work, Hmm. Interesting.
Android (18:18)
Again? Seriously?
Emma G (18:19)
Yeah
Android (18:20)
Tell me about last week's two that appeared.
Neal Girandola (18:23)
Smells like alien in here.
Alright, so.
Android (18:27)
Someone's
been having some aliens.
Emma G (18:31)
You
Neal Girandola (18:31)
Peter,
we talked about this.
Android (18:33)
Peter, was that you?
Then she looks at the dog. Was it you?
Emma G (18:36)
⁓
Neal Girandola (18:38)
All right. All right. So so all right. So she he bites her nipples. They get and then they're gone right after that.
Android (18:43)
She disappears and then
they're gone. Right. So then he pulls the hair out of his mouth and he immediately puts it into a plastic bag and then keeps it as a treasure for six years.
Neal Girandola (18:53)
Yeah, what compelled him to do that?
Android (18:56)
Well, I don't know. mean, was 92. Was Law and Order on then, maybe? Some sort of cop show he watched? I should keep this?
Neal Girandola (18:58)
This is a daunt. Let's just say it is true.
maybe. Definitely law and order
has been on for 300 years. That's like, in every city. So
what compels someone to have. let's just say it's true in all seriousness, as I say, this happens that experience may have been daunting to him. Let's just say it was startling. think being immobilized on your bed in a situation like that is probably frightening. ⁓ And then he's getting scared. Maybe she wasn't as attractive as we're making her out to be. Maybe it was a scary sort of
grotesque
so it could have been could have been could have been very
Android (19:36)
He was laying
there and he was like,
Neal Girandola (19:39)
No, this is not what I paid for
Emma G (19:39)
HA!
Android (19:41)
She's like, I saw
you. She's like, I saw you. I saw you were awake. No, No. No. Okay. Fine. Just do it.
Neal Girandola (19:47)
You
This is not what I paid for
Emma G (19:55)
Just do it.
Neal Girandola (20:00)
So I'm trying to make this traumatic. let's just say it was for him. I don't know in my that mindset. I would save the hair. I wouldn't think of it that way unless maybe maybe what did he do before all that? was his job? So he's a tough maybe he's a blue collar guy. Maybe he does think that way. You know, maybe it's like I'll put this I'm going to save this but
Emma G (20:03)
Sure.
Android (20:04)
Right.
He was a construction worker.
Emma G (20:19)
He's gonna,
yeah.
Neal Girandola (20:28)
Why would he save it? He's not thinking DNA, you think, but like you said, maybe TV shows influence that thought process. All right, I'm beating a dead alien here. All right, here we go. So onto the next
Emma G (20:37)
Yeah.
Android (20:39)
Okay, so ⁓ now that we kind of have the story, let's start digging into ⁓ Chalker's 1999 IUR
methodology, right, for the DNA. Can we talk about the DNA? Okay.
Neal Girandola (20:48)
Well, wait a minute. Well, before we do that, before, yeah,
but before we do that. So he keeps this bag. He does. He say where he kept it and why he kept it for six years and his mindset. Nothing explains that. All right. So he
Android (20:57)
No.
No,
no. What's so weird is that he kept it. And then a year later, he creates this support group. Hi. Are you banging aliens? Are aliens appearing in your room and trying to have sex with you? And this really disturbed you. Come on, join me. I'm Peter Khoury.
Neal Girandola (21:08)
That's yeah. And it's
Emma G (21:08)
a year later?
and
Neal Girandola (21:18)
Yeah, but but that's it. That is the pro that is the step. That's what I didn't want to skip. I don't want to just jump to chalker because that's six years later before they even test that DNA. So he starts his support group a year after this experience happens
Android (21:21)
Right.
Neal Girandola (21:32)
without ever getting a hair sample without ever getting DNA. There was no talk of that. Then he just starts his support group. So this could have been again going back to my theory that it was that traumatic that he's like, I think I I need help.
Android (21:39)
Okay.
Neal Girandola (21:46)
So why don't I start a support group to see if there's other people out there that experienced this.
Android (21:46)
So right, right.
So let's give the timeline. Can we give the timeline of the
Emma G (21:50)
True, that's fair.
Android (21:54)
Okay. So 1992, the hair is recovered, right? And stored in a plastic bag that he bag and tagged it, right? And then it gets 1996 and 97.
Neal Girandola (21:54)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yes.
Magdain tag. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I wonder if he put a piece
of, you know, like a tape over it and wrote, you know, day ⁓ alien hair. Yeah. Inga the alien. Yeah.
Android (22:13)
Inga's hair. He writes Inga's hair.
Emma G (22:14)
English.
Android (22:18)
All
right. So actually Chalker began investigations in 1996. That's when the early inquiry started 96 to
All right. Four years later from 97 to 99 is considered the main testing time. That's when the DNA analysis was
Neal Girandola (22:29)
four years later.
did Chalker and he meet? Do we know this?
Android (22:41)
I don't know how they met. I, well, he was a UFO researcher. So I think Khoury reached out to Chalker directly and said, Hey dude, I had this encounter. Um, can you help me? And he was like, yeah, I'd love to, you know, I'm a chemist.
Neal Girandola (22:48)
Okay.
Emma G (22:48)
Mmm.
Neal Girandola (22:55)
Well maybe, maybe
also Chalker found his group. I don't know, his support group?
Android (22:59)
Maybe,
Emma G (23:00)
Yeah.
Android (23:01)
1999 was the public disclosure of the IUR article that was published about the hair strand.
In 99, no, this was 99, the article was published. Yes, yeah, the public disclosure of the results. okay. And then between 1999 and 2004,
Neal Girandola (23:09)
by... in 94 you said.
the public test of the result. Okay.
Android (23:22)
tried to...
replicate the hair, tried to replicate the DNA on it, and it was all epic failures.
So all in that time,
Neal Girandola (23:30)
Wait a minute, wait,
wait, wait, wait. So they test the hair and they come to this.
Android (23:33)
They test the hair.
They were trying to say, well, if we tried to replicate this DNA strand, could we produce this? like meaning that if it was artificial, if they could make an artificial hair strand, they were trying to prove that it was a real hair strand. Okay. So successful. Right.
Emma G (23:47)
okay. Got it.
Neal Girandola (23:47)
okay, but they were unable
to successfully produce a fake.
Android (23:52)
And then in 2005, Chalker had all of his information and then he was able to release his book.
can't even say this title of the book without laughing. Hair of the Alien.
Emma G (24:04)
Hehehehe... Hehehehe... Hehehe...
Neal Girandola (24:06)
So he wrote a whole book about the hair
of the alien.
Android (24:09)
Yes,
Neal Girandola (24:09)
I love the title actually.
Android (24:10)
I
Emma G (24:09)
Wow.
Android (24:11)
got pubes in my mouth. It's the name of the.
Neal Girandola (24:14)
you know, you you need to do about that hair of the alien, bro.
Emma G (24:17)
Yeah, this should be a drink.
Android (24:20)
So when we're looking at a six-year-old uncontrolled case, meaning that this hair was in a bag for six years.
Neal Girandola (24:31)
Right. I was just going to talk about chain of custody of that hair. We don't know what happened, right? We don't know where it came from, when he had it, how did he actually get it? But, but is there any dispute in the DNA test that they're saying that it is Chinese lineage and all of those are disputed in that? Or is it proven? They tested it. It's true.
Android (24:36)
No.
No, it is
right. Right. So here let's, talk about the ambiguity of the DNA source. Right. So it has to be the original donor, which we're going to say was the girl, right? The female Nordic alien, ⁓ how it was handled, right? Environmental contamination, mixed contributors. So meaning that his saliva, if it was in his mouth, his penis, if there was genital fluids on it, I mean, there's all kinds of things that could
Neal Girandola (25:17)
it could wait but
but but that wait yeah but mess it up to the point where it says it's a it's a very unique lineage of Chinese DNA
Android (25:19)
that could mess up the DNA. Okay. Of the hair strand.
Well, here's the
yeah, we're going to ⁓ let me let me just finish this little bit about DNA and nuclear DNA and how it breaks down and.
Neal Girandola (25:35)
don't get too deep
because our listeners don't want to they don't want the science
Emma G (25:39)
Sounds like they
made a hair baby. That's what it sounds like to me. Yeah, a hair baby.
Android (25:41)
Cousin it. Yeah. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (25:43)
hair baby. That would
be my question, Andrew is, is there enough decontamination or whatever, you know, that, that wrecked it to the point where, it's, becomes this very unique lineage, you know, Chinese lineage of someone I that's where I don't, that's like getting real lucky. I think if you're, you know, mixes with his penis and know, nipple bite and you know, hair in a baggie and stored for six years,
Android (26:02)
Right.
Right.
Neal Girandola (26:12)
⁓ now we test it, now it's very rare.
Android (26:14)
Wait a second,
did you say nipple bite? That's my move.
Neal Girandola (26:17)
Nipple bite.
Emma G (26:20)
Well, this
Neal Girandola (26:22)
I do the nipple bite.
Android (26:23)
I
knew the old nipple bite. It's just right. It's not about me. It's about Peter Khoury. You're right. It is about me, right?
Emma G (26:23)
is about you. This is all about you. No, it is about you. This is your story.
Neal Girandola (26:30)
But you see my question, right? I just
I want to get to that. I want your answer from that. Is that possible that all the all the contamination of this created something rare as rare as that or would a contamination just be like, well, this is inconclusive or this is just something weird.
Android (26:33)
Right.
Okay, so just
to let you know, the hair could have been colored hair. The blonde could have been
blonde, dyed. Okay, so when we're talking about hair
Neal Girandola (26:54)
died. Sure.
Emma G (26:54)
died? Right. Got
it.
Android (27:00)
it's hard without the actual root, which I don't know if they had the root or not of the hair, but without a hair
Emma G (27:06)
Mmm.
Android (27:07)
it's hard to really get the nuclear DNA ⁓ from the sample. ⁓
A widely repeated
idea here is that the hair, this is actual fact, the hair showed a mongoloid mitochondrial DNA, but Caucasian physical traits.
Okay, so the hair being blonde,
Neal Girandola (27:28)
But I don't understand.
Yeah, I don't understand any of that. So I'm just wondering, are they confirming that it is rare?
Android (27:34)
Just to let you know, mixed
ancestry is common.
So this 1 % or 2 % of this Chinese, it's common. could be from genetics. Genetics are so complex that it could be hundreds of generations back and that would still show in the DNA. So it doesn't necessarily mean that, gosh, this is so weird that it has this. It can have it. It can be kept for years. All that stuff can be traced for years.
Neal Girandola (27:39)
Right, but-
Emma G (27:55)
Like show up, yeah. Okay.
Android (28:08)
Here's the thing that's true though, the DNA was fully human.
Emma G (28:12)
Yeah.
Android (28:12)
were no
unknown genetic structures were found,
Rare haplotypes, non-human origin was not found in
There was no indication that a replication or this was ⁓ a hybrid of any kind that did not show in the hair sample at all either.
Neal Girandola (28:31)
Right.
That was never said anyway. But it's about the rare lineage of this hair strand of the Chinese lineage to it. I'm not getting from you, though, that there was anything else in the hair strand that would lead to there was this much Viking or this much, you know, whatever. I, you know, there's nothing that's I haven't heard anything that says anything other than it's this rare Chinese lineage.
Android (28:35)
But just...
So.
Right.
Right.
Emma G (28:57)
Yeah, they can't trace back to a specific lineage at all. Like, okay.
Android (29:01)
No, because
it's what happens is when you start breaking down the DNA, it starts breaking down into haplogroups and haplotypes. And those are ⁓ basically going across a broad ancestral branch of human family tree, right? So you've got the haplogroup H, which is common in Europe. You've got haplogroup B, which is common in East Asia and indigenous Americans. You've got haplogroup L, which is common in Africa.
Emma G (29:25)
Mmm.
Neal Girandola (29:30)
Okay, but what is it you're saying though about the hair? just want to know is it is the hair?
Android (29:30)
⁓ so.
the hair would be common.
Neal Girandola (29:37)
but
Android (29:37)
Because
of our genetic makeup, I mean, if they took a hair strand from me, they could probably trace me back to ancient China as well. Because when you start doing that deep dive, you're gonna find stuff that's there.
Neal Girandola (29:51)
Yeah, but
I don't think you're correct on that. think that I think I get what you're saying, but I don't think you're correct about this specific hair from nipple alien. I think it is it there's there's specifically saying this was this had this was completely a rare strand of hair off of a rare.
Android (30:10)
No, what they
said was it was a blonde hair, which is not common with Asian, and it had Asian descent. All right, so here's the thing. Did you ever see? No, only percentage of it was. That's what I mean. It wasn't pure Asian.
Neal Girandola (30:19)
I thought it only had Asian descent.
What's the percentage
of the others? What's the rest of the stuff?
Android (30:29)
Well, any other hair could have that too. That's what I'm trying to say. It is common. It is common to break down DNA that way.
Neal Girandola (30:35)
I don't think
But you understand this is the strand of hair is what's carrying this story since 1992. This is the story that is being told. I don't, but I don't believe that the strand of hair is just common. If that were the case, they would say, yeah, whatever this said, just Chinese stuff in it, but whatever.
Android (30:54)
When you're, when you're breaking down,
when you're breaking down the DNA and how it breaks down, then yes, it would be common. Just saying what, what they said. The other thing too, is that you realize that there was no publications of this in a real
Neal Girandola (31:09)
What was the publication Chalker put it and he did get a 1999
Android (31:12)
There is no, there is no
clear public evidence that's fully evident at independent or peer reviewed.
Neal Girandola (31:20)
Okay.
Android (31:22)
So the lab completed and they published it, right. But there was no follow-ups to it. So they did this one test
Neal Girandola (31:22)
Okay. Nobody else reviewed it. Okay.
Was it?
Android (31:29)
and they said, yeah, this is what it is. And then that lab was never revealed, only partial part of the name. said, Chalker himself said that testing involved qualified biochemists and DNA facilities in Australia, such as described in his UFO book that he
Neal Girandola (31:45)
Mm.
Android (31:50)
however, the exact lab identity chain of custody documentation, full sequencing protocols, meaning the full DNA sequencing and name principle investigators, ⁓ we're not published.
Neal Girandola (32:06)
a greer ism.
Android (32:07)
It's agrarianism. Yeah, we can call it that. should, we should, you should coin that word. I'm going to trademark, trademarked. It's agrarianism.
Emma G (32:11)
Yeah, do you think that because of, I
Neal Girandola (32:11)
Yeah.
Emma G (32:13)
mean, even in the last 20, 25 years, DNA has advanced a lot.
Android (32:19)
So much,
Emma G (32:20)
lack of language and conversation around these things may have led to the maybe titling it as uncommon, but now the language that we have is this understanding that it's common and possible.
Android (32:33)
Well, here's the thing. So
Neal Girandola (32:35)
Yeah,
valid. Right.
Android (32:36)
things contaminate DNA. Think about how many court cases that we know of that are thrown out because the DNA is contaminated, all right? So here's going back to what you talked about with Hibbs being tied around his penis, right? ⁓ It's said that he later discovers, right? He goes to the bathroom, he discovers along, this was another story.
Emma G (32:41)
Mm-hmm.
Neal Girandola (32:41)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Android (32:57)
a long strand of blonde hair tightly wrapped around his penis. He states that the hair could not be removed easily and eventually cut it free.
Emma G (33:05)
it was tight.
Neal Girandola (33:07)
We cut it.
Android (33:08)
Yeah, that's the story that when we first introduced the story, we talked about it being a long hair and it being wrapped around his penis, right? Okay. Well, apparently he states, Peter Khoury states that the hair could not be removed easily and eventually cut it free. That's one story. So he's using scissors. Well, what's on those
Emma G (33:08)
Wait, that was the other account?
⁓ yes.
Neal Girandola (33:15)
Yeah,
yeah, you just love saying penis.
the other alien hair that he cut off his penis last time.
Android (33:28)
Whatever's on those scissors is going to contaminate.
there's no, yeah. Right, then just.
Emma G (33:32)
That sounds like a deeper encounter than the other one where like that sounds like
there was a mounting and there was that that yeah that hair was solidified.
Android (33:39)
Sex, right, yeah.
Neal Girandola (33:41)
All right.
Android (33:43)
Okay. And then it's, it's stored. Okay.
Neal Girandola (33:43)
Let me verify. Let me verify. Let me verify this. So the DNA test was run by a credentialed researcher, right?
Android (33:52)
We just don't know who it was.
Neal Girandola (33:53)
but there's paperwork that says that
Android (33:53)
Biochemists.
Neal Girandola (33:56)
verified credentialed DNA testing.
They also lost the hair, right? The hair's gone. Yeah, so this.
Android (34:01)
The hair's gone. Yeah, the hair's gone. She came back and got
Emma G (34:02)
Thank
Android (34:04)
it. I heard.
Emma G (34:05)
Apparently the
Neal Girandola (34:06)
The di-
Emma G (34:09)
laboratory, I was gonna say laboratory, laboratory was led by Dr. Vivian Thong.
Neal Girandola (34:11)
Mm-hmm.
Android (34:11)
That's why
I laboratory.
Vivian Dr. Thong, yeah.
Neal Girandola (34:14)
out of Australia out of Australia
Emma G (34:15)
Dr. Song.
Neal Girandola (34:18)
so
nipple alien hair tested by fong
Emma G (34:19)
⁓ I guess out of us,
Android (34:26)
or penis hair. Hair wrapped around penis tested by thong.
Emma G (34:27)
Penis hair top to the test.
Neal Girandola (34:28)
Yeah. Yeah. ⁓
okay. I, I, I still, I'm, I'm still not following your, ⁓ what is, what are other people saying about that hair? Because I don't know. They're saying it's a rare Chinese lineage. It doesn't, I could have my hair tested and the, the, the primary
Android (34:33)
So.
Neal Girandola (34:51)
wouldn't say it's rare Chinese
That's my question. So that's what I'm trying to fully understand that.
Android (34:55)
Well, okay,
here's my question. We don't even know what lab did it. So how do we know any of it's true?
Neal Girandola (35:02)
Phong did it.
Android (35:04)
Dr. Thong, what lab does she work in?
Emma G (35:05)
Dr. Thong.
Neal Girandola (35:06)
Where's Dr. Thong from, does it say?
Emma G (35:09)
Okay, hold on.
Neal Girandola (35:10)
Let's just say, right, you and I agree. You and I agree that the hair is real. What does it mean? Yeah, what does that mean? It's human. It's human hair. It's rare Chinese lineage to it. How does this tie back to aliens?
Android (35:11)
Okay. We agree that's hair is real. It's, and it has some rare Asian lineage to it. It doesn't mean anything.
Well, because they appeared in her room. Right?
Emma G (35:30)
Yeah, I'm going back to my question of were there any descriptors, other descriptors that made him think
they were totally non-human. So that, but okay, that's it, that's it. ⁓
Android (35:37)
Other than one was Nordic and one was Asian. That's it. He had to, had like broad scale.
He was like, man, you know what? Just send two girls over, send over, know, send over of Nordic girl, ⁓ tall blonde.
Neal Girandola (35:47)
Yeah, well, that's what I mean. Let's just say, let's just say he found
he found the ultimate hooker agency, the hooker agency that got him these two alien, these two chicks, then the one girl that rat nibble biting ⁓ alien hair. Let's just say that she has no idea that she has rare Chinese lineage within her.
Android (35:57)
combo.
Yeah.
Neal Girandola (36:16)
because she's been a hooker her whole life and there was no reason for her to ever get tested. Yeah, but now she you know this happens because it's just human DNA. And so what she has rare how does that link it if they how does this story link to aliens?
Android (36:18)
Right. And on a spaceship, right.
Neal Girandola (36:35)
just based on the hair that has rare Chinese lineage to it, if they were aliens.
Android (36:38)
Well, because there's been so
much talk about how we
we're being hybrid, and they came to apparently have sex with this dude. And then they disappeared. So all the things there are shooting up the red flag of alien, alien, alien abduction, alien
Neal Girandola (36:56)
Mm-hmm.
did Peter ever say what he thought that encounter was about?
Android (37:02)
Well, he said it was a sexual encounter. He does say that it was a sexual encounter. Why? I don't know. He didn't go into any details. Like, no, I found nothing that says why him. Right.
Neal Girandola (37:05)
For what reason? Why him?
No, but I'm asking you if you found anything about like why he says is him
construction construction worker in Australia. We're going to show up in your room. We know the wife left. We're to come in and have sex with you because we want you to we want to have your baby. Yeah.
Android (37:26)
breed with us. Yeah.
Emma G (37:28)
Oh, I'm now
Android (37:28)
Yeah.
Emma G (37:29)
remembering that he felt paralyzed. He felt like he was being like unable to move, like, you know, in a controlled environment, you know, that because of them, you know, that he could not move because of them. So that, that feels alien-y. Yeah.
Android (37:44)
That feels alien. Yeah, that feels alien.
Neal Girandola (37:46)
I mean if you're calling two hookers over you're definitely gonna have some drinks probably gonna you know it might do some other stuff I don't know what he was into yeah well was it eight in the morning yeah I guess maybe that's his thing
Emma G (37:52)
It's like eight in the morning.
His wife left for work.
Android (37:59)
So
yeah, let's, let's, can we talk about his 88, 1988 deal? Let's go backwards. Let's go to 88, right? So, you know, he said that.
Emma G (38:05)
Yeah. ⁓ I like it. I like it. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (38:05)
so we're going to go backwards. We're to go back. Yeah, OK. Why does this have
anything to do with his the the outcome of our decision based on what the hair experience?
Android (38:15)
No,
no, but it does, it does bring up cause you're like, how is this alien? How is it, you know, how is it alien?
Emma G (38:20)
Mm.
Neal Girandola (38:21)
Yeah, right.
Android (38:22)
we talk about sleep paralysis, right? We were saying that he was paralyzed, right? Cause he said clearly in 88 that he was
Neal Girandola (38:25)
Yeah, right.
Android (38:29)
And he woke up and he was paralyzed and there was dark hooded creatures or people, entities we'll call them in his
we have talked in past episodes about the whole ⁓ hypno-pompic hallucinations that happen. ⁓ People feeling like, you the devil's on their chest or they have these things. The other things that people have seen are, ⁓ I think they're called night stalkers or night walkers where they actually see hooded characters in their room.
Neal Girandola (38:45)
Yeah, right.
Right. Can't move.
Emma G (38:56)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Android (39:01)
I'm going to write off his 1988 thing is not alien at all that he, I think he suffers from sleep paralysis and he suffers from hypnopompic hallucinations. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (39:08)
or stress.
Okay.
right. But, do you think that because he had that experience in 88 that it adds more weight to the story he tells about the hair later? And that's why this carries. Like if he didn't have that experience, does this even a story we're talking about?
Android (39:18)
Sure it does. Sure it does. Yeah.
If, if he didn't have a piece of hair, right. That supposedly came from this Nordic woman, right. And by 92, we had already seen the Nordic race. We'd already talked about them. Villa bolus had his alien encounter, right. That said it was, she looked Asian and Brazil,
Neal Girandola (39:41)
Are you
saying that he's being influenced by these other stories if he's making it
Do you think he made this
Android (39:46)
Possibly?
Neal Girandola (39:48)
Or do you think he believes it or he believes it?
Android (39:48)
In all honesty, he,
I, I believe he saw something. think this guy suffers from that rare thing that happens with people with sleep paralysis and the whole hypno thing, hallucinations. think he suffers from that.
Emma G (40:03)
Do we know what color hair his wife had?
Android (40:05)
No,
that's a good question.
Emma G (40:06)
What if,
even if she was brunette, what if she was starting, like if she had like a gray hair and he thought it was blonde and it was around the penis and he's like, whoa, and he had this sleep paralysis moment and he's like, ⁓ that's a hair. It's not brunette like my wife's. And yeah, maybe,
Android (40:21)
Right, his wife could be Asian. He was from Lebanon, right? So
I don't know what his wife, if his wife, you know, what her ancestry was.
We don't know.
Neal Girandola (40:31)
Well, I would think
that in that experience, I'm going to have this hair that I found on my penis tested. We should also test my wife's hair, and we should test my hair.
Android (40:39)
Right,
right. And the thing is, that remember it says it was Mongoloid. So it's Mongolian descent. That's where we get the 2 % or 3
or Chinese, right? So if, if you think about the Mongols and where they conquered, mean, they would have been breeding with a bunch of people. Maybe it was his wife's hair.
Neal Girandola (40:47)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Lemon, could you look up real quick if there were any other alien encounters or sightings at the same time in the same area? 92 in Australia.
Android (41:05)
in 92 in Australia.
sexual alien encounters.
Neal Girandola (41:08)
see what you
then, Andrew, if you don't have anything else, let's weigh in.
Android (41:14)
No, I've got a bunch of stuff on DNA, but we don't.
Emma G (41:17)
Mm-mm-mm-mm.
Neal Girandola (41:17)
No, no, no,
I don't want to. I don't want the science and DNA, man. I get it. DNA. But I mean, unless this was a investigative show, then I would say, yeah, let's start digging into the science of this. I just wanted the report on this. To me, it's an interesting story. I'm wondering, if they didn't share that story about 88. ⁓ If this had, you know, if this adds more weight to it.
Android (41:28)
Let's dig into the DNA.
Neal Girandola (41:45)
You eliminate that because this story is, I don't know. Well, we'll get into it. I just want to see what Lemon finds.
Emma G (41:51)
It's not particularly well documented, that's all that I can find. There's nothing substantial. Yeah. Yeah.
Android (41:59)
In 92, around the same time, nothing really was happening
because they were putting all their focus on Peter.
Emma G (42:06)
think something that's interesting, like why, maybe Peter's having his own experience, but what's interesting to me is that why are all these people rallying around him and believing him? Because he could be as convincing, but there's also this reporter who seems to believe him and is putting the story out there. Then there's this lab that's like, yeah, we're gonna test the hair. And they're using resources and money to do this.
Neal Girandola (42:07)
Peter's Peter.
Android (42:09)
...Tater?
Well,
you have Chalker who knows who's a chemist, who's known in the area, and he's also known as a UFO researcher. He has friends that work in labs. That's why there's no lab that's listed. If it was actually really tested, we'd have the test report, we'd have the doctors that did it, we wouldn't just have names. For all we know, Vivian Thong could disappear in one of those caves.
Emma G (42:41)
It's just friends, okay? Right.
Neal Girandola (42:55)
This is why
Yeah, this is why I have a problem with creative ufologists who latch on to people's stories. They look at it. They're not looking at the true event. They look at the true event that happened that they they hear from the stories from these ⁓ experiencers. And then they think, how can I exploit this and turn this into a really interesting book? Well, if I get this thing tested, DNA tested, and then I can say that it comes from this rare lineage, even though it may just be from Trenton, New Jersey.
You know, it could be this whole, ⁓ you know, they, just build this racket up of creating stories to sell books. That's the only way you apologists are making money. No one's paying them to go look at sites or to talk to experiencers. The only way they're making money is by publishing. And that's where you run into this challenge of,
validity of a, an encounter, a true encounter. And that's the problem. So, that's where I struggle with.
Alright, I think it's time to weigh in on whether we think this is a mostly true alien story or
Lemon, I'm going to go to you first. Do you think that Peter Khoury's experience with the two alien women is a mostly true alien story or not?
Emma G (44:09)
Definitely not. ⁓ I just feel like, I think I'm between the sleep paralysis and him.
trying to explain away this encounter that he had or that he may have hired or,
Neal Girandola (44:27)
It's there's is there anything in the story itself? You're just saying if there was just a little bit more here than I would believe it or is it just like doesn't even connect
Emma G (44:37)
love the conversation about sleep paralysis. I could go down an entire rabbit hole about that, especially with like, you know, in the paranormal world and the conversations there, something that I think is really fascinating is the consistency in sleep paralysis, the fact that there are consistent characters and images that we see. And so I agree with Andrew in the sense that I think he had, he experienced something, but the hair, I am not buying at all.
There's nothing about the hair that to me is convincing.
Neal Girandola (45:09)
Okay. All right. Lemon says it is not a mostly true alien story. Andrew, I'm gonna hand it over to you. Do you think this is a mostly true alien story or not?
Android (45:17)
First of all, I want to say this is a, it's a beautiful story. It's the best story I've ever heard. It should have started dear penthouse forum. That's how it should have started. That's what I'm going to go with that. Um, you'll know, I would never have believed it had it not happened to me. I mean, that's what I want to hear in this story.
Neal Girandola (45:23)
Okay.
Android (45:35)
I think that, um, I think that they, need to, you know, if I was to dig anywhere would be who his wife was, what's her lineage.
What color hair did she have?
This guy definitely suffers from sleep paralysis and the hypno dreaming hallucinations that he has. And he's probably still having them today and doesn't realize it. And I don't know what they do for it. I don't know the treatment. think that, no, it's not a mostly true alien story.
Neal Girandola (46:04)
All right. You both say it is not a mostly true alien story. And now it's my turn to weigh in. I have to say though, I looked at some of Peter Quarry's videos. I mean, the guy is still consistently saying that this happened. It's 30 years and it's the same account.
Emma G (46:18)
That's interesting.
Neal Girandola (46:20)
the odd thing for me was after it happened, he forms a support group. I think, you know, like if a murderer creates a support group, you look at him and go, okay, this guy is incredibly, he needs help as something that's happened, right? There's something going on here. I think this is the same sort of the same thing, not a murderer, but ⁓ the DNA result. I mean, I still think it's real. They have paperwork on it. They tested the hair. That's
Emma G (46:31)
Yeah.
Android (46:32)
Friends of Charles Manson.
Emma G (46:34)
Mmm.
Neal Girandola (46:46)
from a rare Chinese lineage that's never been recorded in a blonde person I'm just stating some of the details that they're giving us
Android (46:53)
Unless she collars
Emma G (46:54)
did used to babysit a little baby who was Korean and she was blonde. Her father was blonde with blue eyes and her mother was Korean and she came out, she had blonde hair. Yeah, I've never seen it, naturally.
Neal Girandola (47:03)
Mm-hmm. But is that rare?
Android (47:07)
Yeah, it would be rare.
Neal Girandola (47:09)
I don't know enough about science
and DNA to say that. So I don't know this. I'm basing what we know, what we discussed
there's also to me there's not enough evidence here to say that this is a mostly true story. So this is not a mostly true alien story.
So Peter Khoury he kept a hair that most people would have thrown away.
Six years later a lab told him the hair came from a lineage that doesn't exist in nature at least not in any combination science has ever
still in Sydney. He's still running the support groups for people who've had experiences they can't explain. And he's still telling the same story. So good for him.
Maybe we can get him on this show one time. If he doesn't hate this episode. He may. He may hate this episode.
Emma G (47:53)
Well, he might
want to come on to prove us wrong. That's fine. Yeah.
Neal Girandola (47:59)
That'd be fun. And maybe,
and he seems very personable. So anyway, anyway, if you are listeners have thoughts about this
or stories you want us to investigate next, drop them in the comments and don't forget to subscribe, share the show too. That helps and follow us on Instagram and Tik TOK at mostly true alien stories.
check out all of our other episodes until then be kind to the aliens when they get here.
Lemon, Andrew. Nice job.
Android (48:23)
let me just say something. I, all my encounters with alien chicks, I've never had a hair wrapped around my penis
ever.
Neal Girandola (48:31)
I'm
still, I'm still trying to figure out how you better nipple. That's all. Yeah. Why?
Android (48:34)
Why a bitter nipple?
Emma G (48:36)
I mean, they sound
hot to me. I mean, they sound way hotter than the other alien girls we've talked about.
Neal Girandola (48:41)
We always, we
always try to make the aliens down hot on this, on this show. Just for our listeners. Yeah, we, do that. They're
Emma G (48:46)
And these ones sound the hottest. They sound like they were just like, you know, sitting on the end of the bed, like
Android (48:49)
and get it.
They're late.
Neal Girandola (48:54)
see you guys on the next episode.