Neo (00:38)
We now have a mostly true alien story. Tick tock. You know that. Yeah. Yeah. We started a few weeks ago and we started, think we got like, we had 15 followers and now after like two weeks, we're a little over 300 on our way to 400 followers, which isn't bad. And on it. Yeah. And on it listeners, if you're, you're not familiar with it, we have, post clips from, you know, our podcast, you know, the little pieces of it too.
Android (00:42)
Yeah, yeah.
Wow, that's not bad.
Neo (01:03)
tease the upcoming episodes or talk about past things and, and then we'll add other videos in it, educational kind of fun entertainment videos about, the Anunnaki or different types of aliens, things like that. And we're, starting to get comments now people are commenting on, on our, our, videos
there was an interesting comment on on one of the videos that we put out it was about the top three government agencies that are probably watching over the aliens right now. was a comment specifically that
that are watching over aliens.
Who's watching over your
a little mean.
Android (01:38)
That's just mean.
Neo (01:39)
My hair was really high, tall then. It was a little messy.
Android (01:42)
You should have responded with... Your mom.
Neo (01:45)
that would have been a great comeback.
Android (01:46)
Yeah, you know who's watching my hairline? Your mom.
Neo (01:50)
know what? I don't want to, and I hate to say it this way, alienate followers. So I just took it. I just took it. And I asked him, and then I immediately went went to my wife and said, do you think my hairline, do you my hairline is
Android (01:56)
Okay, alright, now, just to, you know what?
And she was like,
I don't find it distracting. I find your beautiful eyes distracting.
Neo (02:08)
You know what you're too kind to me you're too kind to me well we want to welcome You're the guy leaving the comments aren't you I knew it I knew it
Android (02:11)
Yeah, that's because your wife told me to.
Yes. I can't say that
stuff online when we're talking. So I attack you the coward way. I write to you and attack you.
Neo (02:21)
It's true.
Yeah, anonymously, anonymous, anonymous
comments.
we want to welcome everyone back to mostly true alien stories for if you're new to our podcast, welcome. If you are a regular follower, we love the support and check out our Tik Tok Go follow that if you're on tick tock, we've seen cool now that we have a tick
Android (02:44)
when I start throwing up my dance videos,
man, it's gonna be like, with some cool alien techno music.
Neo (02:48)
Yeah.
on mostly true alien stories. As we always do, we dig into history's wildest alien encounters and we Andrew and I ask how much of this is mostly true.
I'm Neal Girandola. And of course, my co host is Andrew Triana. And, Andrew, you know, we're heading into Kentucky.
Android (03:07)
Neal.
Neo (03:10)
on today's story. That's a, yeah. Well, it's that it did.
Android (03:12)
Dude, I love Kentucky. Bourbon, horses.
Neo (03:15)
the
Android (03:15)
Aliens.
you know, I once saw an alien. I never shared this with you while I was riding a horse after I had completely drank
bottles of Jack Daniel's bourbon I saw an alien.
Neo (03:26)
was the Jack Daniels alien.
Android (03:28)
No, was actually the horse actually turned out to be an
And it spoke to me.
And it rode me across this huge, beautiful, lush field. And it talked to me. It gave me messages about our planet.
Neo (03:32)
That's really great.
Mm.
think you have a drinking problem.
All right. Today we're, uh, we're headed to Kentucky in 1955. It's one of the most infamous alien shootouts of all time. It's the Kelly Hopkinsville encounter. Yeah. It's a family barricaded inside their farmhouse. there was little goblin like creatures stalking the property. There was bullets flying and somehow the aliens don't go down. It's, it's, it's like a
Android (03:54)
my god.
Neo (04:07)
horror story, part sci-fi thriller, and it's still one of the most bizarre alien cases ever reported. But as we always do in every episode, I'm going to lay out that story exactly as it was documented, a true reporting.
Android (04:16)
sounds bizarre.
Neo (04:22)
embellishments, well, a little bit. I won't exaggerate. There'll be a few embellishments in terms of story. And
you and I, we're going to break it down, analyze the details, and we'll figure
Whether this is a mostly true alien story or just something mostly else. of course,
going to want our listeners to weigh in. So you guys can let us know what you think where are these Kentucky farmers really under siege from extraterrestrials or did moonshine and mass hysteria play a bigger role?
Android (04:46)
Of course they were.
Neo (04:52)
we'll get into that. but before we get to the alien gunfight of the century, let's check in with Andrew for the latest in alien news and entertainment. Andrew, what's been lighting up the sky and the internet this past week.
Android (05:06)
got to tell you, Neal, it's been pretty exciting. The CIA,
not
Neo (05:10)
you know what we don't talk about the CIA much on here.
Android (05:13)
the CIA has declassified documents. This just happened three days The CIA declassified UFO document refers to the release of
Neo (05:19)
Mm-hmm.
Android (05:24)
previously classified government files related
unidentified flying objects or UFOs.
Neo (05:31)
Is this
different than the disclosure volumes 1 and 2? Is this something different?
Android (05:36)
Yes. Yeah,
this is is different because the disclosure volumes. I'm not sure how much of the stuff in there was redacted.
Neo (05:44)
Right, okay.
Android (05:45)
Okay, but these documents, were often obtained through
Freedom of Information Act, the FOIA request. contains reports, investigations, and analysis conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency or the CIA on UFO sightings and unexplained aerial
The declassified materials include witness testimonies, intelligence briefings, and scientific assessments.
shedding light on how the US government has monitored and studied these mysterious occurrences over the
While some reports provide rational explanation, others remain unexplained, fueling public interest and speculation about extraterrestrial life and advanced aerial technology.
Neo (06:24)
Yeah.
Android (06:30)
there's a gentleman by the name of John Greenwald Jr.
has a channel on YouTube called the Black Vault.
And this guy has spent the last 20 years trying to get information from the CIA. Finally, these documents now have been released. And this guy took them, it's crazy. He took them and scanned them page by page by page. there is one document.
the problem with this is
Neo (06:54)
Charlie
Android (06:55)
It's dated from April of 1976. And according to this document, the CIA hand-delivered some sort of object to a research group. Now, most of the report has been redacted, but if you go on YouTube to the Black Vault, you'll get to hear what John Greenwald, Jr. has to say about everything. And he has the document there and he'll break it down.
But what I thought was hilarious about this and these redacted documents, this is what kills me, is that you see the page, right? And the whole thing just looks like someone took a black marker, right? Okay, so it's like Neal Girandola, blackout, blackout, blackout, blackout, 1984, blackout, blackout, Arizona, blackout, blackout. I'm like, how can you decipher any of this? So I think this guy's like, you know, putting the paper up to a light or something, or maybe some sort of light behind it.
Neo (07:29)
a black line. Yeah.
Yeah, sure. Well, does he,
does he reveal some things that he thinks that they're talking about?
Android (07:52)
Yeah, he does.
Yeah, he talks about it.
talks about it. Black Vault's been getting a lot of hits lately,
Neo (07:57)
Is he using
you think he's more like trying to narrow down what these reports are related to. So he's taking what he can find from these redacted documents and then going back into those dates and going, okay, this was a report during that time. Yeah.
Android (08:11)
Yeah, that's what he's doing. He's trying
to put together pieces of a puzzle that has been silent or never put together ever. So that's what he's trying to do. He's a pretty interesting dude, but you should check it out. If you haven't checked it out, you should check out his channel. It's actually pretty good.
Neo (08:20)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah and what else you got?
Android (08:28)
This one, not happy about this article, but I'm going to share it with everybody anyway. It's not a happy go lucky. It's not a happy go lucky feel good film of the summer. I laughed, I cried, I'd see it again and again. It's better than cats. This is talking about Area 51 veterans
Neo (08:34)
Why aren't you happy about it?
Android (08:44)
are getting cancer
the Department of Defense denies that they were even there.
happens at Area 51. David Crete, who is
Force veteran, he has put together now more than 400 people in total, men and women. He says that served on a secretive range in the Nevada desert that encompasses Area 51. Crete says here that he and his fellow veterans were handpicked and tasked with top secret work.
They couldn't even tell their wives what they did every day. We couldn't even tell them the weather, said Crete. Now Crete says he is discovering that this
has more in common than the years they served together decades ago. Many are developing serious health issues, multiple tumors, and too many cases of deadly cancer.
DOD records sent to Veterans Affairs list the same two words between
are black and white that says data masked. So it's like these people didn't even exist. They're not even saying that they even worked in that area.
Neo (09:49)
know, it's almost an indication that they were working together somewhere. If they're all starting to have the symptoms show up. I'm not saying it's alien related, but I'm saying that it's government related if they were all in the government and all working together. It's somewhere. And let's just say it was area 51. doesn't the government just say, well, they all work there.
Android (09:54)
Yeah.
Neo (10:11)
wasn't secret stuff, but we're going to look into it. Why do they have to deny
what else are they hiding by saying that?
Android (10:17)
Right, so
what's interesting is that in 2000, Bill Clinton signed
document saying that environmental scientists that worked in that area are now allowed to get healthcare,
okay, and be paid for,
Neo (10:29)
Well yeah, they're gonna have to do something,
Android (10:31)
But these guys, these Air Force veterans are not, because it's like they weren't there.
they're not even lumped into that.
Neo (10:36)
not even in that. They're not even lumped into that.
Android (10:40)
There was a Nevada test and training range, the area encompassing the infamous Area 51. This remote site known for its nuclear testing since the 1950s, both underground and atmospheric, hosted highly classified military operations.
guys still can't talk about their work on the range.
But the one
declassified mission they are now can disclose involves guarding the F-117 Nighthawk, which was America's first stealth bomber.
Neo (11:11)
may have been working on some really classified military equipment that, you know, has had leaked or has some sort of radiation exposure.
Android (11:20)
Yeah, and yeah, and
I mean, if they were if they were doing nuclear testing there and all of that, I mean, even if they have alien ships, we don't know if we we know that the research that we've done on some of these alien stories that there's radiation involved, people have gotten radiation burns from being around the aliens. So who knows? But I think it's just really sad that we're not going to pay for these guys, you know, who are Air Force veterans. mean, they're actual veterans. But when they.
Neo (11:36)
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, you know what I
would do at this point if I was a veteran and I knew that my whole group that I was working with are now showing symptoms of cancer? I'd speak out. I'd start talking. Here's what we did.
Android (11:57)
Yeah, they are, I would just start,
yeah, here's what we did there. Yeah, exactly, I feel the same way. I just think it's really kind of sad that these guys, but you know, they're serious. These guys are serious about holding their secrets and keeping their secrets of what they did there. You know, maybe they're afraid that if they do it'll cause a panic or I don't know, but I think it's, know, give them the healthcare they need. Help them out, give them the comfort they need, and just do it, come on.
Neo (12:13)
Yeah, well,
Well, yeah, exactly. Just you don't have to tell
us what they were doing. Just help them. Yeah, right.
Android (12:25)
No, that's what I mean. But I guess them
not helping them is them saying that they weren't there so they don't need to. So, all right. On a lighter note,
Neo (12:32)
Right. Okay.
Android (12:35)
I got a movie recommendation for you. No,
Neo (12:36)
Alright, let's do it.
Android (12:37)
One of my favorite films of all time. Galaxy Quest.
Neo (12:41)
is a great movie.
Android (12:43)
And you know why I'm doing this is because I have talked to about 10 people this past week that have never seen this film.
Neo (12:51)
That was made in 1999.
Android (12:53)
was released on Christmas
it's kind of a maybe going say it's kind of a it is a parody off of Star
stars Sigourney Weaver, the late great Sir Alan
Allen, who we know from, you know, Home Improvement and who was also the voice of Buzz Lightyear. Tony Shalhoub. Can't get better than that as far as acting
Neo (13:13)
writing in that movie was so well
broke down the fourth wall. They made them actors, in a series that come and when they get taken by aliens and they think that they're still
Comic cons and things like that. Yeah. Yeah.
Android (13:25)
yeah, they think that they're on like a TV set or something. Yeah. Yeah,
so these guys, you know, they're at Comic-Cons. They're signing things when this group of aliens comes and takes them on their ship. And the way the aliens talk is just... it's fantastic. It's fantastic. And the famous line from Galaxy Quest?
Neo (13:44)
it?
Android (13:43)
Never give
Neo (13:44)
the never give up.
Android (13:44)
Never surrender.
seriously is one of my favorite films
I've probably seen it. I'm gonna say I've seen that film 30 times
I'm a big
Neo (13:51)
All right. What celebrity do you have?
Android (13:53)
Dave Grohl.
Neo (13:54)
Alright, okay, life from the Foo
Android (13:56)
Well, originally from Nirvana and now the Foo Fighters, right? Dave Grohl,
Neo (13:59)
Well, yes.
Android (14:01)
the Roswell Records superstar.
it, Roswell?
You got it? You're with me?
Neo (14:05)
Mm-hmm. Got
Android (14:06)
Grohl named the immensely popular group the Foo Fighters after what pilots dubbed the strange balls of light that followed Allied craft during bombing raids in Germany in World War II.
I didn't know that. This was all like new to The Foo Fighters Roswell Records label was named in honor of a UFO crash in New Mexico that made headlines around the world and touched off the saucer debate
Neo (14:21)
Hmm. Yeah.
Android (14:35)
that is still going on to this day today. He goes, I used to have freaky dreams about UFOs. That's what Dave Grohl said. I was a kid, I really wanted to see one. So I would just sit in my front yard and go,
Take me, I'm here. Can you hear me? In the fifth and sixth grade, I found out about Project Blue
The U.S. Air Force's official probe of flying saucers, right? So I really got into investigating UFOs. would go around to his friend's homes to see dead grass and tell them, see, that's definitely an indication that the aliens were here. He was in fifth and sixth grade.
Neo (15:06)
How old was he when he was doing that?
11.
Android (15:11)
I think he was abducted.
That's what I
said, I've seen some weird stuff on a Foo Fighters tour when we were driving through, guess what state they were driving through? It's not California, it's Arizona,
Neo (15:20)
Arizona? Yeah.
Android (15:23)
We saw what looked like little weird explosions going on in circular movements in the
Even as a child, I couldn't understand why anyone would want to be so close-minded. Well, Dave, you're listening to someone who's close-minded, so yeah.
I'm right there with you, but I'm not with you.
Neo (15:40)
But there's a difference between being close-minded and just hoping for this alien thing to happen. I think that actually makes you start to see things when you want to see them.
Android (15:44)
Right.
to see something right. Right.
Right.
Right. Now here's something. If Dave had come to my house and we both were in fifth and sixth grade together and he tried to tell me that the dead grass in my yard was from an alien, I would have beat his ass.
Neo (16:05)
You probably could have taken them in fifth grade.
Android (16:05)
can take it.
I can take them now.
a chain belt in Kung Fu, dude. Yes. Have you ever heard of chain belt in Kung Fu?
Neo (16:10)
That's big talk. Chain belt. You're a chain belt.
You're gonna use your chain belt?
Android (16:17)
No, I wear
everybody thinks black belt, you know, that's the top, not in kung fu, chain
Now.
Neo (16:22)
I saw
someone in a kung fu match because they wear the gi when they fight they wear that though you don't know this in the belt it was two girls and they were in a
Android (16:28)
Yeah, no.
Neo (16:33)
they were down on the ground now. They're grappling
and she literally took her arm out of her
Took the sleeve and wrapped it around the girl's neck and pulled on it and they they said that was legal
and the girl tapped out because you can use anything on your body.
Android (16:45)
What?
come on. That means they really could have, they could have just taken their belt off and just choked them with it.
Neo (16:51)
anything that you have on.
Choked him out. It's brilliant move if you really think about it.
Android (16:58)
Yeah, if it's a street
And people are making fun of you. They're
Neo (17:00)
This was a-
Android (17:01)
hey, G-boy, what are you wearing?
Neo (17:03)
was a sanctioned match.
Android (17:05)
That's... that is so not cool. That's...
no.
Neo (17:07)
You think that's
cheating?
Android (17:08)
Do I think it's cheating? No, it is cheating. Come on.
like, look, I happened to have a gun in my gi, it fell out. Still part of my uniform. I'm just gonna use it.
Neo (17:17)
I'm
telling you this because I think if you do get into a fight with Dave Grohl, you should your gi and take your arm out of your sleeve and choke him out.
Android (17:27)
But
put him on the mat. We'll do it on the mat so it's like an official fight. And then I'll use my gi and choke him out.
Neo (17:31)
Yeah, make it sanctioned and you
just choke him out. He won't even expect it
Android (17:36)
What if he's listening though? Now he knows.
Neo (17:37)
I must
Android (17:39)
thanks. Now I'm gonna lose that fight to Dave Grohl because of you.
Neo (17:40)
Yes.
Android (17:42)
Good God, man,
Neo (17:43)
You
Android (17:44)
just revealing everything. You're just revealing everything.
Neo (17:44)
you guys shouldn't Maybe you
guys shouldn't fight.
Android (17:48)
No, we're not gonna fight now. Dave, if you're listening, I'm not gonna fight you now.
I would have fought you in fifth grade though, and I would have beat your ass if you would have come to my house and told me there were aliens on my yard.
Neo (17:57)
Why do so many musicians and artists have these UFO experiences?
Android (18:02)
would love to know that. Now here's a little bit, here's a little bit of history about Dave Grohl. You know, he's from Canada, right?
actually had a walk-on role in the
Neo (18:11)
yeah?
I didn't watch the
know what I did watch?
Android (18:15)
You...
Sanford and son.
Neo (18:17)
That's the series. Fringe. Yeah, watch Fringe.
Android (18:18)
Fringe! How long did that
last? Like two seasons? Three seasons?
Neo (18:23)
no, I think
to 2013. Yeah.
Android (18:26)
dude,
I had a kid. How did you watch that?
Neo (18:28)
my kids to bed.
Android (18:29)
You gave him Kentucky bourbon.
Neo (18:30)
All right, so moving on to
Android (18:30)
Little shots of Kentucky bourbon.
Neo (18:32)
What else?
Android (18:33)
That's all I got for you today.
Neo (18:34)
I heard that his house is haunted. Like it's got like paranormal going on.
Android (18:38)
Yeah, you know, his wife,
they do Ouija boards, you know, and the Ouija board moved and he asked if this has silent haunted and it said yes.
Neo (18:45)
spelled out Y-E-S.
Android (18:47)
No, then he asked
the Ouija board another thing.
Should I have gotten my ass beat in fifth and sixth grade? And it said,
Neo (18:53)
Should I?
Android (18:53)
yes. It just went to the word yes. Didn't even spell it out. It said yes. And when he took his hands away, it started spinning around the word yes.
Neo (18:54)
Yes. Word yes. No. Yeah.
said will I fight Andrew
yes all right
Android (19:04)
One day. That's a challenge,
I'm looking for you in the octagon. Let get Joe Rogan on this thing. Joe Rogan will arrange the fight.
Neo (19:13)
god, he would commentate it.
Android (19:14)
be awesome. What's he doing? What is Triana? Triana's got his gi! He's choking him with a gi!
Neo (19:16)
Yeah. Wait, he's born to run and it was me and you!
What?
me check the rule book.
Android (19:24)
He's like, flipping through it.
Neo (19:26)
You can
use anything.
All right. We've covered the latest cosmic happening. Thank you, Andrew. This was all really Now it's time to dive into today's. Yeah, you should be for this feature story.
Android (19:35)
I'm so excited for this story.
Neo (19:39)
let me just remind our listeners how this works. I'm going to tell the full accounting of, a reported alien phenomenon exactly as it was documented.
And then Andrew and I will break it down piece by piece and decide if we think this one is a mostly true alien story or just another case of high strangeness meets human imagination.
of course we want to hear from all of our listeners, your verdict into the comments. All right, let's get into today's
It was August 21st, 1955, and it was in Christian County, Kentucky. It was the Sutton family farmhouse. sat on this isolated piece of land in Kelly, Kentucky. was, that's a small rural community just outside of Hopkinsville.
Android (20:15)
Okay.
Right?
Neo (20:26)
the house was very humble, you know, it was a typical farmhouse wooden worn down by time Yes surrounded by all of these open fields and dense tree lines And it was a kind of place where you know, the folks would they live off the land? So they trusted their neighbors and they weren't very easily spooked at all
Android (20:30)
Yeah, that was nice.
Right.
Neo (20:44)
and so that night 11 people Talking about 11 people were inside the farmhouse. It was a mix of family members and friends
Android (20:52)
Okay.
Okay.
Neo (20:53)
and it was the Sutton's the Sutton's they were hosting a visit from a family friend by the name of Billy Ray
had traveled from Pennsylvania with his wife, June Taylor.
All right. Yeah.
Android (21:05)
No. Okay.
Neo (21:07)
those guys are there visiting. And so 11 other people,
and it was, uh, you know what I, before I get into the story, let me tell you everybody's name because I love all the names they gave. Everybody's name was in this report. So there was Elmer.
Lucky Sutton. Yeah, they're veer Sutton.
Android (21:20)
Elmer.
Vera. That's Lucky's wife, right? Okay.
Neo (21:24)
Jay, that's lucky's wife. have JC
Sutton, who's lucky's brother. You have a lean Sutton who is JC's wife. Then you have the Langford's they're there Lonnie Langford, which is a lean and JC son. You have charl Charlton Langford who's a lean and JC son. You have Mary Langford who is alien and JC's daughter, you have Opal Langford who's also their daughter.
Android (21:29)
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Neo (21:49)
you have
John Charlie Taylor, Lucky's brother-in-law. It's Vera's brother. And then of course, Billy Ray Taylor, who we mentioned, and June Taylor, who is Billy Ray's wife. All right, so these are all the people that are inside the house. So that's the 11, I believe 11
Android (21:52)
Right.
Okay.
Neo (22:05)
Now there was nothing special about that night until Billy Ray, he walks outside, he has to go to the well, they have to go to a well to get the water, to get some water.
Android (22:15)
so they have no
running water inside their house.
Neo (22:16)
No running,
it doesn't seem like it, yeah. So I don't, mean otherwise why would you go to the well? I mean sometimes the well water's pretty fresh. Maybe, maybe it a little, but then no running water. 1955.
Android (22:24)
wouldn't you figure out
how to get the water into your house? You wouldn't have to go out.
Neo (22:29)
I don't know. I this sound, think the stage has been set. Well, that's what I mean. It sounds like the stage has been set as really in the rural woods of Kentucky.
Android (22:31)
Sounds like really nice place. Sounds luxurious.
Yeah, I bet that they had a nice
dirt floor in their house.
Neo (22:39)
I don't know if it would be dirt floor because they invited 11 people over. mean, that could get pretty, that's not fun. I'm not going over to.
Android (22:44)
First of all,
are like, hey y'all come on in, we ain't got no water, you need water, you can go out in the well. I mean, come on. 11 people.
Neo (22:50)
Yeah, I'm not.
Shit, I'm not going to the Sutton's today. My feet come home dirty.
Android (22:57)
They don't even have water inside! I gotta go out to the well! What the hell?!
Neo (22:59)
I got it.
All as Billy Ray steps outside to head to the well, he sees a something he sees this streak thing, something streak right across the sky. It's like a well, it was the way he explained it. He said it was a bright glowing object trailing a rainbow of colors. So if it were a meteor, it's pretty, pretty close. Yeah. And he says it wasn't
Android (23:10)
Yeah, it's a meteor.
Beautiful. That's pretty though.
Neo (23:25)
clearly wasn't a shooting star and it wasn't a plane it moved deliberately and intelligently until it dropped straight down into the trees near the property. Yeah, so
Android (23:36)
Wow. Did
he hear? Did he hear? they used to be my lucky charms. Rainbows.
Neo (23:42)
Well, Billy Ray, he's a, he's a, they say, explain, they describe Billy Ray as this excitable type. He gets, so he gets very excited. He runs inside and he tells everyone what he's just seen, all 11 people in there just didn't believe them. They laughed. They laughed it off. And they're all saying probably a meteor, as you said, Andrew. that was kind of, they were mistaken. They didn't realize that.
Android (23:59)
salad. Wow.
Neo (24:08)
less than an hour later, dogs they outside they all begin barking and howling. They're snarling or like, you know, somebody's on the property. Yeah. Right. So now it was just didn't seem normal to them what they were hearing. So it was just the dog sounded like they were actually in terror, pure
Android (24:16)
Something's out there, right? It's a bear.
Neo (24:26)
So Billy Ray Elmer, son Elmer, lucky son.
those two you know they're gonna go okay they're gonna the head of the family that's the Elmer's the head of the family yeah that's that's right
Android (24:34)
Right. We're the heads of the family. We've got to go out there more and we got to see what's out there. Give me that shotgun.
Neo (24:40)
he straps up his overalls
and he great that's right
Android (24:41)
Cause he had them off because he's sitting on
the dirt floor. He's like, it's cooler without it. It's cooler for me to sit on this dirt floor without them overalls.
Neo (24:49)
So the Billy Ray and Elmer, they, they, I guess they called them lucky all the time. Cause whenever it's names written, say Elmer, lucky Sutton in quotes. So they must've called them lucky all the time.
Android (24:59)
Was he like,
Neo (25:00)
yeah.
Android (24:59)
Whoa, look out,
the aliens are coming for us. Whoa.
Neo (25:04)
So of course they grab their guns and they step outside to see what had the dogs all riled up.
Android (25:07)
had to be. Were they shotguns?
What kind of guns? Were they shotguns? Okay, yeah, they gotta be shotguns. But they ain't gonna be no raffle.
Neo (25:11)
I'm assuming they're shotguns. I'm assuming they're shotguns. Yeah.
they probably had a whole bunch of shit.
Android (25:18)
I saw that James Bond movie, I got a gun just like James Bond.
Neo (25:22)
James Bond yet in 1955.
Android (25:22)
So
Neo (25:24)
as they walk out, they all of a sudden they see,
two creatures. They're standing at the edge of the tree line and they're staring directly at them. They were small. They were maybe three feet tall, but they, of course, unlike anything either of the men had ever seen. Now that well, listen,
Android (25:33)
All
Right. I never seen nothing like this before. You wouldn't believe it.
Neo (25:45)
Listen, they're out in the, they're living in, you know, backwoods country. They know if they don't see something they've ever seen, they know that whatever standing in those woods is something they've never seen
Android (25:49)
Right, they're in rural, right, they're rural Kentucky. Right.
Neo (25:58)
so there they are. They're small, three feet tall. They're staring at them. Their bodies. They describe them as silvery, almost metallic. Their heads were oversized.
Android (26:06)
Mmm, pretty.
Neo (26:10)
and round with large glowing eyes and their arms were these long almost dragging the ground ending in clawed hands. This is what they're looking at.
Android (26:21)
They sound nice.
Neo (26:22)
and then they described they described how these guys moved.
the two subjects they were floating and barely touching the
They're standing
Android (26:30)
cool.
Neo (26:31)
And so of course, Billy
does what anyone in Kentucky 1955 would do.
Android (26:37)
He says, come on in. We got, we ain't got a wood floor. We got a dirt floor, but come on in. I'm going to run to the whittle and get you some water.
Neo (26:44)
shoots them. Yeah.
Android (26:47)
he shoots them.
Neo (26:48)
so you were, you're half right. You had a 50, 50 chance here is either in Kentucky. They would invite you in and come on in and you know, have some meals with 11 of us now. What's another two more people.
Android (26:58)
little so they wouldn't eat much.
Neo (26:59)
Yeah,
that's right. Well, Billy Ray's just like, fuck this. Shoot! And he shoots. So he fires his gun and the bullet hits the creature dead on, is what he says. And it made a sound like it was metal pinging off of steel. And it didn't, yeah, and it didn't, it didn't kill it. It didn't kill whatever they're looking at. It didn't kill it. It didn't even slow it down. It just...
Android (27:04)
Boom.
Like he shot the roof.
Neo (27:29)
flipped backwards like it had been knocked by yeah it flipped flipped that's what they said he says it flips backwards like it had been knocked by an invisible force and then it floats back up to its feet
Android (27:31)
it did a summer.
Neo (27:41)
it's like one of those carnival things, know, you shoot that thing up. Shoot it again.
So Billy Ray and Elmer, Lucky
when they realize
isn't normal and we are not alone. These are definitely something that they should be afraid of. So Billy Ray and Lucky, they run like two little school girls
back inside the house. They lock the door. So all 11 people are now in the
All of a sudden they look out and they see more creatures begin emerging from the darkness.
So they're at the window. The creatures are at the window of the house, Andrew, and their clawed hands are reaching up and they're tapping on the glass. They're just tapping.
Android (28:18)
Bye!
Neo (28:21)
and they're peering. They're peering inside. They're just looking
So far, they're
Android (28:24)
Right,
not threatening. They haven't threatened at all.
Neo (28:27)
they were only threatened by their appearance, I guess. And that's what fricking Billy Ray and Elmer freak out and start shooting the shit out of these guys. And they run in the house and then all of sudden there's more creatures coming to the house and all they're doing is tapping on the window and looking in.
yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Android (28:41)
Can I, can I check out that dirt floor? We want to put
one of those in our
Neo (28:46)
But then they then they start climbing on the roof and they're making noises as if they were crawling over the house trying to find a way in. This is what these I guess if yeah.
Android (28:55)
they just broke the glass? mean, first of all,
how did they afford glass for their windows? They didn't even have running water. That was mean. I'm just mean.
Neo (29:03)
You
sometimes they have to budget, right? We need windows to keep us warm.
Android (29:08)
Right.
Y'all, we can either get windows or a floor. Paul, want windows. All right. Emily said she wants windows. June bug. What do you say? I want windows too. They have cold breeze coming in. I'd rather sleep on a dirt floor.
Neo (29:24)
it's either run of water or windows.
Android (29:26)
Windows! Windows for sure, Paul. Windows.
Neo (29:29)
Okay.
means Elmer's got to go out and get the water from the well every day.
Android (29:34)
Well, that's okay. I'd rather have a window. It's pretty to look out a window.
Neo (29:38)
But what if them aliens come?
Android (29:39)
They'll just tap on it. They won't break them.
Neo (29:41)
And you know what? She was right.
Android (29:43)
Yeah, see that is like she had a premonition.
Neo (29:46)
all right. So they're now the car on the roof. They're tapping on the windows. There's more of them and the children start, are there, of course they're screaming. There's children in the house. They're all screaming. You know,
you got Charlton and Lonnie and Mary and Opal. They're all losing their shit, screaming and
and you know what the men did?
Android (30:03)
shot
Of course, dude!
Neo (30:04)
They kept firing. Yeah, they kept firing
at them. Every time they hit one, it would flip back and recover just like the first time. And the bullets did nothing. I love how they said it would just keep flipping back.
Android (30:17)
So then why would you not stop shooting it and maybe be like, get out of there.
or say hi or say, sorry about shooting now. Did it feel good? Did it tickle?
Neo (30:23)
Yeah.
Yeah,
right. So anyway, the creed, right. And we'll get to the whole shooting thing after we dissect this a little more. But the creatures, they, they, weren't killing anybody, right? So they're not, they're not, they're not the only threat they're making is they're looking in the house and climbing on the roof. Okay. And they weren't, they still weren't trying to break in. were just watching. They're toying with them. They were studying them,
Android (30:36)
They had so far.
and tapping. Hi!
Neo (30:49)
And then this apparently went on for hours, hours of this. mean, imagine that though,
this would be a little horrifying and scary, but I think if it's happening for hours, you realize that they're not breaking through the window trying to break in the door, I think you're okay. Maybe there's something else going
in the dead of the night,
the family that, you know, the terror level has reached its peak and they're just like, we got to get out of here. So the, make a run for it and they, they, they run everybody. They all jumped. Yep. They jumped. Yeah. It was like the Beverly hillbillies in a truck, couch chairs. They jumped in their cars and they sped to the Hopkinsville police department, which was nearly 30 minutes away.
Android (31:14)
Did they take everybody? 11 people running out.
Neo (31:31)
And they arrived there, they were hysterical, they're terrified. And the officers thought they didn't, you know, at first they thought this was a joke until they saw the family's faces and they, they realized this wasn't a prank and they weren't drunk apparently. And these people were genuinely afraid for their
So the police, along with state troopers, military officers and, and the nearby Fort Campbell
from the, yeah, the, the military officers from nearby Fort Campbell, they follow them back to the house. but by the time they got there, of course, the creatures were
Android (31:58)
Dang. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Neo (32:09)
So the aftermath was the police found they found bullet holes everywhere because Billy Ray and Elmer were just shooting at everything. You know, they're just shooting, I guess, through the house. They're shooting through the house walls.
Android (32:09)
Okay.
Did they shoot through the windows?
Neo (32:22)
They had to have right. I'm thinking there were spent shell casings all over the floor of the of the house. So they're shooting in the house. The family was still shaking. They're crying. They're refusing to stay in the house alone and there was no evidence of the creature. So there was no blood no footprints nothing. You know, I guess the creatures as they went away. They grab it, you know a branch with leaves on it. They just covered their tracks and swept the ground.
Android (32:33)
Ugh.
Yeah, they're like...
You missed over there.
Neo (32:51)
Yeah, the official explanation. Well, I don't know if it was official official, but some said it was owls. Others said that the family made it up. But there were the thing is they weren't there were no drugs involved. The police looked into it. There were no alcohol. There's no history of this family line. And most importantly, they never tried to profit from their story. So they, they turned down the money, the interviews, book deals, they wanted nothing to do with the spot.
Android (33:10)
Right, right.
Neo (33:20)
and so they weren't looking for attention from any of this
where it stands today it's just still a baffling alien case in history do know that the town they reap some rewards from this they still do to this day because every year in kelly kentucky they hold
Kelly Little Green Men Days Festival and they celebrate the story of this Kelly Hopkinsville attack to keep the legend
even Project Blue Book, which you just mentioned earlier, the government's official UFO investigation, they could never explain what happened either, but they did come and take a look at it.
Android (33:46)
Yeah, yeah, they came.
Neo (33:56)
And there you have it. That's the story that Kelly Hopkinsville encounter. That's the family under siege that did nothing and creatures that
would not
They weren't trying to get in. It seemed like,
is it a mostly true alien story or not?
Android (34:10)
All right, well, I won't tell you right now.
First of all, no, I'm not gonna do, I'm only gonna do the Southern accent when it's needed. I'll do the Southern accent when it's needed. so first of all, Billy Ray is a big character of a person. He likes to embellish things and make things bigger than what they are. the first thing that was funny was that when you talked about what was the first thing they did is they shot them, yeah.
Neo (34:12)
Are you gonna do it all in a southern accent?
Mm-hmm.
Android (34:34)
Well, it was described by one of the people there that the little alien person, and it was from Elmer, from Lucky, said that the alien, as it approached them the first time, put its hands up.
And then the first thing Billy Ray did was it.
Neo (34:47)
Yeah,
put its long clawed hands up.
Android (34:51)
up and it said that after he shot it, it looked like it did a backwards
got
looked at them and then started to like float towards them
they shot it
did the back somersault and then it ran into the woods. And then another one came. Now what's interesting is in that area.
Several locals at that time said that they saw meteors falling
all over the place that night. it could have been...
Neo (35:19)
They were
identifying them as meteors, the reports from other people.
Android (35:21)
Right, right.
So also they had no radio in that
had no
They had an outhouse.
Neo (35:30)
So you're saying that their imagination was running away with them.
Android (35:34)
Possibly possibly. I'm not I'm not quite there yet. here's something
They returned to the house after going to talk to the police right and at 2 30 in the morning
The aliens came back
And they had a firefight again with them from 2 30 in the morning to 5 a.m. The next day is when Blue Book came out and Project Blue Book said there is no evidence that anything happened. Right. So then this other woman, Davis from the Civilian Saucer Intelligence Society ended up coming out there to talk.
Neo (35:59)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Android (36:09)
And she found no of anything. So when you were talking about the great horned owls, that came from a gentleman by the name of Joe Nickel. And he is from the Committee for Skeptical
Neo (36:17)
Mm-hmm.
Android (36:21)
And he said that great horned owls will defend their territory. And a great horned owl is about two feet tall. I mean, they're huge with yellow glowing eyes, just like our little friends, the little green men. But there was no...
Neo (36:34)
Mm-hmm.
Android (36:37)
There is no evidence of any kind.
Neo (36:39)
Yeah,
but the problem with well, just real quick, just a food for thought. Did they find any dead owls around there because
Android (36:46)
No, they
never said if they found dead owls or not.
Neo (36:48)
I would just think that that would be mentioned that there were dead owls everywhere or owl shit on the house or you know what mean?
Android (36:52)
Well, you know what's
Well, it
was apparently some sort of like owl mating season or something there. All right. Now, Vera Sutton.
Neo (37:01)
And they're like,
turns them on to go knock on the windows of the houses. Yeah. Yes.
Android (37:07)
Yeah, the fly towards the light. But
if they didn't have TV or radio, did they even have electricity? I mean, don't know. Here you're having a party at your house. You don't even have running water. Everybody's got to go outside to take a piss or take a dump in the odd house.
Neo (37:23)
I think that's
very common for 1955 in rural Kentucky, in the backwoods of Kentucky. You may have electricity, but you don't have a bathroom running water. You don't have that stuff.
Android (37:32)
Okay.
when they came back the next day and they looked, they found no footprints. They found nothing. Right. they saw shell casings, empty shell casings, but they never, they never found like any real gunshot holes or bullet holes in trees. So they were shooting, but you know, it must've just reflected off of these little guys, right?
Neo (37:38)
Right. Right.
Everywhere. Everywhere.
Android (37:54)
Now this is what's wild to you. You said they didn't look for any money or anything, right? But a few days after the
Billy Ray put up a sign in their driveway demanding an admission fee plus for photos with Billy Ray.
for his alien encounter.
Neo (38:13)
And Billy Ray
was just visiting.
Android (38:16)
Look, just came down to see him. know, these alien things, they're, all over the place. Now here's a, here's an interesting, here's an interesting thing. The sheriff of the town, the sheriff at the station's name was Greenwell.
And the reason why he kind of believed them was because he said that he had an alien encounter in 1952 where he saw lights in the sky moving around. So he was actually, yeah, the sheriff. Yeah.
Neo (38:38)
Was this sheriff? Yeah.
Android (38:42)
That's why he was like, yeah, come on, let's go to your house. Let's, let's, let's go look. Right. But when he got there, there was like, it looks like y'all just shot up a bunch of stuff. There ain't nothing here. Dead. There ain't nothing. Ain't no footprints. No nothing. What are y'all gonna do? And then Billy Ray's like, well, I gotta tell you what more than I'm saying. We're all over the place. I shoot it. They would flip over.
Neo (38:59)
It was crazy how they
Android (39:01)
They were flippers. They should have been in the Olympics. They would have been great for the U S men's gymnastics team. God knows those guys can't do a
Neo (39:09)
can't tell
you whether they flip only if you shoot them or if they'll just, yeah.
Android (39:13)
Or if you talk to him,
if you're like, hi, alien, boom, boom. We couldn't, we couldn't wait. We just saw the first thing that I thought it was get your gun. Lucky. We're going to go shoot. Now, Vera Sutton, who was Elmer Lucky Sutton's wife,
Neo (39:17)
Cause we didn't wait around. We didn't wait around to see. We just shot them. We just shot them.
Android (39:34)
she said there was no drinking
allowed in the house. Allowed in the house.
Neo (39:38)
Right.
Also that they kept going to the well.
Android (39:43)
Possibly the well is code for moonshine distillery?
Neo (39:47)
know.
Android (39:47)
now
11, the 11 people that were there, Only 10 of them said they saw something, one didn't.
Neo (39:53)
Who was the one?
Android (39:54)
The one was the infant. don't give that baby moonshine. It wasn't old enough. She's only two years old. They can't start drinking moonshine until they're three.
Neo (40:02)
Well, they said that the several other family members reported seeing the beans either directly or as shadows silhouettes through the windows. so there was a lot of chaos and fear going on of the situation. it's reasonable to assume that most of the adults in the house have not all sort of caught a glimpse of it.
Android (40:11)
Right,
Right. And then the story, the
story changed from their Elmer's, Lucky's and Billy Ray's of seeing three or four to later Billy Ray saying there was 12 to 15 all over. They were crawling all over. They had climbed up over the door frame. I was trying to get back inside and I shot it. And then I was like, y'all, got to get the fuck out of here. Get in the truck. Everybody get in the truck. Hurry.
Neo (40:29)
All over the house, yeah, on the roof. Right.
Make a run for it.
Android (40:43)
gonna make a run for it. They're mainly single grab me with their claw hands and they're gonna do stuff. I shot that thing 13 times. didn't do
Neo (40:51)
they
do say by the time the last beans were seen, it was close to
So it was like a seven, eight hour ordeal.
Android (40:56)
5AM?
It went from August 21st to August
I'm gonna weigh in now. Are you ready?
Neo (41:03)
Yeah,
go ahead. do you think? Is this a mostly true alien story or not?
Android (41:06)
We all got to tell you, I'm going to say no. I'm going to say these sons of bitches are drunk on moonshine and just started seeing freaking owls flying around outside. started shooting them, making up all this stuff about aliens.
no. Billy Ray, his story just kept changing. Three, four aliens, 12, 15 of them all over the place. They were scared for their
Well, if you went outside and you scared some owls and those owls are in mating season or they're trying to protect their nests or they're doing whatever, dude, those things are going to fly at you and try to kill you. There's the fear.
Neo (41:43)
Yeah.
okay. So Andrew, you say it's a not a mostly true alien story.
Android (41:48)
I think it's a
fantastical story though. I love it. But I'm going to go with no, it's not. I'm sorry. I can't.
Neo (41:51)
Yeah, you know.
Okay. Okay.
Well, thank you. Now it's now it's my turn to weigh in on whether this is a mostly true alien story or not. And remember listeners, we want you to weigh in as well. So make sure you add your thoughts in
the
Here we are 1955.
a no TV, no radio. They probably had electricity.
I believe Billy Ray came from, he was visiting Pennsylvania. Yeah, which, is a little
Android (42:17)
Pennsylvania. He came from Pennsylvania, drove his truck all the way from Pennsylvania.
Neo (42:22)
would say maybe at the time in 1955, a little
wasn't so back country, maybe.
Android (42:28)
Right,
right.
Neo (42:29)
Right. So he's coming in. He's young. I think he was like 22, 23, something along those
Android (42:36)
He
must've wrote a letter to them because they didn't have a phone.
Neo (42:39)
I didn't look into seeing how often this group got together. But I imagine
What's his name? Billy Ray, when he comes from Pennsylvania and he's young, they're definitely with no, no radio, no television, nothing to do. Yes. I agree with you that they're going outside to get something to drink or whatever it may be. what's hard to explain is, first of all, why would Billy Ray and Elmer make this up?
Why would they come running in? I think they did see something. I think though that Billy Ray got Elmer going, got him wild and they just, you know, latched onto this story that there was maybe aliens. Yeah. I don't think it was owls. I don't. And in fact, I don't think it was anything.
Android (43:14)
There's one over there! Boom!
Neo (43:22)
I think, I think they, created a mass hysteria in the house. think Billy Ray was so. And Elmer was blah. That they, you know, they're in the house and they got guns and they just keep shooting and the kids are getting more and more worked up. The girls are getting worked up. All of this stuff is going on in the house. only thing that is questionable is that when they've got ran and took off to the, to the police, and then the police said that no one seemed drunk.
No one seemed like they were on anything. Didn't seem like anybody was, know, anything, any of that was going on. That would mean that Billy Ray and Elmer really held their own. it was over a seven, eight hour period. So maybe, at the heart of all of this, there was a lot of, you know, they were out of their minds. and then it kind of winged off, but then they came home and maybe when they said that they saw more aliens,
Android (43:52)
Right, right.
Right.
Right, right.
Neo (44:16)
We don't know who actually said they saw them. So maybe the kids were so scared that they're yelling that there's aliens and then you know, there was a reaction So anyway with this story, I think it's it's it it the imaginations ran wild in this one and I think that With such a large gathering that the without entertainment in the house their their minds are even more
Android (44:24)
Right.
Right.
Neo (44:41)
coming up with more exaggerations. They all got scared. An event did happen. Someone started it. I think if there were owls out there, you'd see them dead. I there'd be bird shit on the house from the owls crawling on top of it. There'd be feathers on the front porch. There'd be, you know, all kinds.
Android (44:56)
Right. maybe there was,
and they're just not talking about it.
know, maybe they built their shack in the middle of an owl commune.
Neo (45:03)
But you know what? They never had another report of those owls and owls probably I would
if they're mating, they usually mate in the same areas. may be wrong about that, but I think they always go back to the same mating spots where they're born. Uh, those kinds of things is something to look into. know frogs do
Android (45:15)
Maybe.
Neo (45:20)
there was one time my buddy and I, my best friend who I grew up with.
he lived out in sort of this rural area on a farm and it was in New Jersey. So it wasn't Kentucky,
there, there were Hawks that would circle his house. we had a BB gun and it's probably the wrong thing to do, but you're out in the farm. These kids, you know, no entertainment. We'd have TV or phones back then
We would take a BB gun and, and they'd shoot a BB gun at them. And we did that one time. And you know why I only did it one time.
Android (45:39)
Do you have an odd house?
that hawk came down to kill you.
Neo (45:46)
Be
that all three of them circled down and came after us, chased us. what they do is they don't attack you. They throw up on you. they just try to vomit on you while they're flying over top. And they've chased us into the house and they threw up all over the top of the roof of the house. it's stunk so bad. It was horrible. It was a nightmare.
if it were owls and they were being, attacked. don't know what their answer is. Do they come after you? Maybe. But this is a long way for me to say that these guys made this
This is not a mostly true alien story. And it's probably my first one. I think of all our rare episodes that I don't, I don't believe that this happened, but
Android (46:23)
No!
I think so too. Yeah.
Neo (46:30)
You know, good for Kelly Hopkinsville
Android (46:30)
Well,
Neo (46:31)
to take it on
Android (46:32)
yeah.
Neo (46:32)
and make it an do think that the kids and the family thought shit was going down out there for sure. But I think it was Billy Ray and Elmer that really just, you know, it turned into something bigger than they thought it was going to
Android (46:44)
Right.
Neo (46:45)
know, they, they, they were trying to have fun and scare the kids.
Android (46:46)
Right.
Neo (46:49)
and, it just went on.
Android (46:48)
Yeah, agreed.
Neo (46:50)
think Billy Ray came across to me as this big city slicker from Pennsylvania and he came into town. Seriously. I think he was a party guy. I think he was a good time.
Android (46:56)
Yeah, I'm tell you them
love my moonshine.
Neo (47:00)
But you know what I mean compared to Kentucky,
To the backwoods of Kentucky, him coming in, I bet, and he's young, he's 20 something years old. I think that, he's just a wild card. He came in, he got everybody drunk. He got himself drunk. He caused this whole incident and, and then, uh, they just Elmer got caught up in it. They just went with it.
Android (47:08)
Yeah.
I
Neo (47:17)
I say it's not a mostly true alien story. Andrew, you say it's not a mostly true alien story. This is a first. The two of us agree on this episode. we'd like our listeners to weigh in as well. And if you have a different viewpoint, what?
Android (47:22)
I'm saying it's not even at all.
Neo (47:33)
please let us know. And that's it for this episode of Mostly True Alien Stories. You make sure you follow us, subscribe, check out our TikTok channel as well. You can listen to us on all your favorite streaming channels now But most importantly, subscribe and tune in next week as we dig into another of an unexplained alien phenomenon.
then, keep watching the skies and maybe don't open fire on anything that glows in the dark like Elmer did.
Android (47:56)
And especially they
put their hands up, you know, come on.
Neo (48:00)
that's it for this week. I will see you guys next time on mostly true alien stories
Android (48:00)
sounds like an