The Phoenix Lights Incident (1997) — Thousands Saw It. No One Can Explain It.

On March 13, 1997, something massive and silent moved across the sky over Phoenix, Arizona—seen by thousands, captured on tape, and still unexplained to this day.

In Episode 16 of Mostly True Alien Stories, hosts Neal and Andrew welcome special guest Don Sill (host of Donversations) for an in-depth exploration of one of the most credible UFO sightings in American history.

From military denials to witness testimonies—including a future governor—this episode unpacks the Phoenix Lights and asks:
Was it a top-secret government op… or a moment of mass contact?

Stick around for our “Mostly True” weigh-in, rapid-fire alien takes with Don, and a few laughs along the way.

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Mostly True Alien Stories

00:00 Cold Open Intro

00:37 Show Open / Guest Intro

02:17 Don's Belief in Alien Life

03:31 The Moon Landing Debate

06:05 Celebrity Space Travel and Its Authenticity

10:08 Don Sill's Podcast Journey

12:29 Exploring the Depths: The Thrill of Spelunking

13:45 Memorable Encounters: Stories from the Comedy Scene

16:24 Rapid Fire: Truths and Myths about Aliens

23:46 The Phoenix Lights Incident: A Deep Dive

25:23 The Phoenix Lights Incident

27:27 Eyewitness Accounts and Theories

30:49 Andrew Weighs In On Mostly True or Not

34:12 Don Sill Weigh's In On Mostly True of Not

36:36 Neal's Verdict on Mostly True of Not

39:57 Final Thoughts and Takeaways